Mass Effect Mafia - [Game Over]

[Klingoncelt]

Suzune, Nahdia, Cake Effect, and beeboy are all scum

Suzune I can agree with, Nahdia and Beeboy, I dunno, but Cake Effect?

[Klingoncelt]

TTH is scum

Cake Effect isn't

O...kay...

[Klingoncelt]

BTW, I'm going to ask all hydras to sign off on their posts.

Yes, hydras, please sign.

[Klingoncelt]

Hi all. This seems like an interesting game, but clearly has too many players with the number of pages accumulated in this short span of time.

Here is a thought experiment for you all - what if we were to eliminate all the humans, and let the alien factions fight it out?

VOTE: Bait

[Klingoncelt]

gys bait is OBIVODUSLY A FUCKING HUMAN

So you and he are Scumbuddies?

[Klingoncelt]

gys bait is OBIVODUSLY A FUCKING HUMAN

LIKE STOP BTING HIM LOL HE'S TWN AF

VOTE: klingoncelt

J9FSIHGU

guys his ANEME IS BAIT HE'S FCKING BATING U LOL. tel me pls what ufcking alien comes rint oa game and is ike "ok let's lynch all humans" HE'S OBIVOUS A HUMAN LOL

GOFBALL IS HUMN READING THE GUY WHO LITERALLY CLAIMED NON-HUAMN LIKE DID U EVEN READ THE GAME >)> LERLY NOT.

Damn, you sure are worked up over Bait.

[Klingoncelt]

A lot of this game is talking about factions and role stuff which I don't give a shit about so I don't have much else to say sorry

If someone wants to engage me about things that matter that would be cool?

Only thing that matters here is to survive, what's the point of multiple factions if the win conditions discourages you to win with an another faction, ruining the potential of what otherwise could have been an outstanding setup, this isn't Mass Effect Mafia, more like Team Deathmatch Mafia, Humans won't even give a fuck if he flips Turian/Asari since it only counts if only one of either two factions is alive.
How about this instead:
If any faction is the last faction standing, only they win.
Humans: Have at least one Human and Asari/Turian alive. All others die.
Turians: Have at least one Turian and Salarian/Human alive. All others die.
Asari: Have at least one Asari alive and Krogan/Human alive. All others die.
Krogan: Have at least one Krogan alive and Asari/Geth alive. All others die.
Salarians: Have at least one Salarian alive and Turian/Geth alive. All others die.
Geth: Have at least one Geth alive and Salarian/Krogan alive. All others die.
(If there are 3 Turians, 2 Salarians and 2 Humans alive, the Turians will only win if there are no Salarians OR no Humans, the Salarians on the other hand will only win Turians are alive, if the Turians are dead, then all the remaining Salarians will be modkilled and therefore the Humans win)
My suggested rules encourages winning with an another faction, while not discouraging winning as the last faction standing, I want everyone's thoughts and criticisms on this.

I'll make it easy for you.

Some of us have played this style of game on other sites.

Generally the idea is the Humans, Asari, and Turians (Town and Town-Aligned) versus the Geth, Salarians, and Krogans (Scum and Scum-Aligned.) Once either Town and Town-Aligned or Scum and Scum-Aligned defeat the others, the three surviving factions go at each other.

It usually doesn't end with three aligned factions going at each other, but for at least the first 4 or 5 Days of the game it's easier to play with this goal in mind.

[Klingoncelt]

Can someone explain how/where bait scumclaimed? I'm not really seeing it.

Post 243: "Here is a thought experiment for you all - what if we were to eliminate all the humans, and let the alien factions fight it out?"


Now why would Town and Town-Aligned see that as anything but Scum?

[Klingoncelt]

dayvig: Kuroi

Do town typically have dayvigs?

No, it's very very rare - never, actually, unless it's a total bastard game.

Yet there's always someone who whips that out nearly every large game.

[Klingoncelt]

telltaleheart is not playing who is tth?

TTH is TellTaleHeart. TellTaleHeart is in this game.

[Klingoncelt]

I'll make it easy for you.

Some of us have played this style of game on other sites.

Generally the idea is the Humans, Asari, and Turians (Town and Town-Aligned) versus the Geth, Salarians, and Krogans (Scum and Scum-Aligned.) Once either Town and Town-Aligned or Scum and Scum-Aligned defeat the others, the three surviving factions go at each other.

It usually doesn't end with three aligned factions going at each other, but for at least the first 4 or 5 Days of the game it's easier to play with this goal in mind.

Why the hell are you coming out of nowhere bringing setup speccing from the grave?

Seth - and others - seem confused.

I seek to avoid endless pages of confused speculation on how to proceed.

[Klingoncelt]

Ok so Nos is probably a good guy.

Probably

not

, you mean.

[Klingoncelt]

How is that a scum thing to say?
It's prefaced as a thought experiment, and while it does otherize 'humans' from the speaking voice, it's also not so outlandish to think about.
I hardly think it's a scumclaim. Rather, the speed at which many players have latched on to the Bait wagon should be telling, if not of Bait's faction, then of the quality of play you should expect from these people.

Oh come on. It's a Scumclaim. He probably drunkposted and wants his teammates to save his ass.

[Klingoncelt]

Seriously, do you guys need the definition of a "thought experiment" explained to you?

Klingoncelt, just once I wish we could be on the same team and like, REALIZE it. Can we be pals this game? I'm gonna say you're town. I don't know. I just wanna be on your good side for once.

If anyone else did what he's done, they'd have been lynched within an hour.

[Klingoncelt]

Yeah Klingon is definitely scum

No I'm not.

[Klingoncelt]

Yeah I think E&A is a human.
Off the top of my head. Nosferatu and Cake Effect are scumreads of mine. I might be on board with Spiffeh's TTH push, I guess I'll look a bit more into that slot.

I dunno about E&A, because reasons.

I agree with you about Nosferatu, but I think Cake Effect is Town Aligned.

So we can sort of agree on some things, I guess.

I'll jump on the TTH wagon, Spiffeh's made a case and is pushing hard...

VOTE: TellTaleHeart

[Klingoncelt]

People that need death sooner rather than later: TTH, Suzune, Ranger, Dwlee, Klingon, heuristically_alone

There are several slots who's posts I skipped so this list is still a work in progress

You're wrong about me. I'm curious as to your reason for suspicion.

[Klingoncelt]

@Klingoncelt: Is the following a scum-claim?

That is not quite the same active ability you claimed before, is it?

It isn't?

Man, I'm so bad at being scum. Can't even keep my fake claims straight.

Spoiler:

If you answered yes, you just lost Cyberpunk Mafia! Congratulations! Scum was Dwlee skirting by after botching his claim!

I would have voted for it. Unless the claim was made by someone that can be a smartass. A few names come to mind...

I would have voted for Dwlee too. Because Dwlee.

[Klingoncelt]

No, here's why we're lynching Varsoon.
Even in the absolute best case, he is not

aligned

with town. He is

potentially able to win

with town.
You are not town. The way you are playing you are completely fucking anti-town and the sooner that you get lynched the better.
Calling for a vig shot on town is not acceptable play from someone who is claiming to be our ally and based on your playstyle I sincerely doubt that you townside.
If you want to play in such a manner that you are not town aligned, we are going to treat you like you are not town aligned.

And fuck off? In case you hadn't noticed I've made LyLo 7 times over hundreds of games in 2 years. Saying that scum 'want me brought to LyLo' is asinine and disingenuous as fuck.

VOTE: Varsoon

This vote stays.

Quit being idiots.

I already said that in this type of game you start off with Town & Town Aligned versus Scum & Scum Aligned.

Trying to lynch a Town Aligned player is anti-Town.

Wait a minute - Frozen Angel knows this. She has experience in this type of game, she knows how to play it.

FA, why are you trying to lynch Town's allies?

You rolled Scum, didn't you?

VOTE: Elsa and Anna

[Klingoncelt]

If Klingon keeps up this level of engagement she might be town. Disengaged Klingon is usually scum Klingon.
Varsoon your Else and Anna vote is bad.

People that need death sooner rather than later: TTH, Suzune, Ranger, Dwlee, Klingon, heuristically_alone

There are several slots who's posts I skipped so this list is still a work in progress

Heuristically is lynchbait and shall not be lynched today. Klingon might be town and shall not be lynched today.
Others are still on the table.

-SC

Disengaged Klingon is usually sick Klingon or very busy in R/L Klingon. Just so you know.

Varsoon's vote on Elsa & Anna isn't bad, FA knows better than to act the way she is.

[Klingoncelt]

RC's Varsoon push is so awful he might be scum after all.
FA's posts haven't been great either.

No duh.

Still don't want to lynch them anyway.

There are plenty of scum in the game to lynch before them; they're likely to get killed even as scum, so they are not a priority to lynch.

^ ^ ^ Ranger just Scumclaimed, everyone.

[Klingoncelt]

and according to what I was thinking about the setup I was thinking his role is not as confirmable as it is. (friend / foe) thing.

I can't convince RC. Its like talking with a stone!

~Elsa

Link her to that similar game.

[Klingoncelt]

what is wrong with this game

Nothing. It's proceeding quite normally.

10, 11 more days left in this Phase.

Woot.

[Klingoncelt]

I think that E&A talking about being town-who-wanted-to-claim-halftown is just total bs and an excuse to claim town in a way that appears more genuine. Because what other benefit is there to even say that.

?!!!!

Now people make stuff up to attack us?!

This is interesting!

~Elsa

No, that's pretty much what you're doing.

A lot can happen in 10-11 days, I can't wait to see how Day 1 turns out, but for now, I'm crashing.

Goodnight.

[Klingoncelt]

RC's Varsoon push is so awful he might be scum after all.
FA's posts haven't been great either.

No duh.

Still don't want to lynch them anyway.

There are plenty of scum in the game to lynch before them; they're likely to get killed even as scum, so they are not a priority to lynch.

^ ^ ^ Ranger just Scumclaimed, everyone.

And how exactly is that?

Note: why have you not pointed out the other people that have said very similar things (such as climaing E&A is scum but not high on the lynch priority)?

Because Ranger doesn't talk like that as Town.

[Klingoncelt]

{curiouskarmadog, Varsoon (well, sorta), beeboy (well, sorta), heuristically_alone, Nahdia}
{Suzune, Cake Effect, Spiffeh, Expedience}
{Yume, DrippingGoofBall, hebichan, Dwlee}
{PeregrineV, Nosferatu, Hastur, TellTaleHeart}
{Gendaberry, FA_Q2}
{Party Boat, Shiro, Elsa and Anna, Klingoncelt}
{Bait, Killthestory, Kuroi}

Those categories, by the way, aren't the same as when they started.
They're now basically conftown (or confally), strong town, nulltown, null, nullscum, strong scum, and literally-scumclaimed.

Ranger, that's arguably the worst readslist you've ever posted.

[Klingoncelt]

Going back to this:

VOTE: TellTaleHeart

[Klingoncelt]

37 pages. @_@
This is going to have to wait until Sunday, I hope it's not 60+ when I get back.

Good evening.

Just thought I'd mention, it's Sunday.

Anything to say about your wagon? State of the game? Scumreads? Townreads?

[Klingoncelt]

... the emergence of the Kuroi wagon, I'm fairly certain, has diminished the TTH wagon. I'll wait for a VC to be sure, but TTH has done nothing to diminish the wagon and yet the pressure's dissipating.

It appears we agree on something.

[Klingoncelt]

... the emergence of the Kuroi wagon, I'm fairly certain, has diminished the TTH wagon. I'll wait for a VC to be sure, but TTH has done nothing to diminish the wagon and yet the pressure's dissipating.

It appears we agree on something.

@ranger, Klingon I tried to spark the TTH wagon by jumping on it, then this kuroi wagon started. I can't hold a wagon by myself on someone who hasn't posted any new fuel for people to latch onto.

The problem I'm having is that Kuroi posted a lot more content than TTH.

[Klingoncelt]

The problem I'm having is that Kuroi posted a lot more content than TTH.

Honestly, I think they're both scum, in a 27 person game I'm just interested in who has the better chance of being lynched between them. Dwlee, TTH, Shiro, Kuroi all seem viable targets of this currently.

Just a quick note, lurkers also make excellent lynch targets in a game like this.

[Klingoncelt]

My next target will be you, Mathblade.
This way, the rest of the Turians know to avoid targeting you.
You rub me the wrong way.

I already checked MathBlade - she's NOT Turian.

My other check was Nahdia...

[Klingoncelt]

Klingon vote claimed scum please.

Klingon vote claimed scum please.

That scum being suzune obviously, since their hydra partner has claimed them to be scum.

Pants are awesome things. Why people insist on streaking I do not know. :/

@KlingonCelt the claimed scum is Hebichan lol

Yep.

VOTE: Hebichan

[Klingoncelt]

Hey, don't anyone kill me tonight, I'm finally gonna check Varsoon.

[Klingoncelt]

Klingon vote claimed scum please.

Klingon vote claimed scum please.

That scum being suzune obviously, since their hydra partner has claimed them to be scum.

Pants are awesome things. Why people insist on streaking I do not know. :/

@KlingonCelt the claimed scum is Hebichan lol

Yep.

VOTE: Hebichan

lies and slander.

Nuh-uh.

[Klingoncelt]

Hey, don't anyone kill me tonight, I'm finally gonna check Varsoon.

scumbuddies should kill this.

Coward.

[Klingoncelt]

GG

I had fun, it as a lot more mellow than the SC2 version.

Thanks, mods!

[Klingoncelt]

Yeah just make a vig instead of someone who can give kills to their enemy, like wtf. ;_;

I knew he wouldn't shoot you.

[Klingoncelt]

Oh.

[Klingoncelt]

lmfao KC i still have no damn clue what you were thinking there. he's our ENEMY yo

I wasn't sure if Varsoon was lying or not.

I had to go with the person least likely to use a gun stupidly, someone that was likely in the top half and would likely shoot someone from bottom half.

Then I got killed.

[Klingoncelt]

Lol it got me to suspect Beeboy a bit KC so I guess that is good?

[Klingoncelt]

lmfao KC i still have no damn clue what you were thinking there. he's our ENEMY yo

I wasn't sure if Varsoon was lying or not.

I had to go with the person least likely to use a gun stupidly, someone that was likely in the top half and would likely shoot someone from bottom half.

Then I got killed.

...then why didn't you give it to me?

Because I wasn't sure if you were lying or not.

Had I lived another day I probably would have given you the next gun.

[Klingoncelt]

Probably.

[Klingoncelt]

Where's the Geth PT?

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Thanks!