Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]

Titus · Post Post #1556 (isolation #0) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:58 pm

In post 1554, Not Chara wrote:Cakez: you have a lot of experience with Nahdia? i think they've explained themselves adequately. i disagree now, but your tone does make you sound a bit fake.

Blade: hm, i might go for Ank. i haven't really looked at him yet, so i'm not sure.
Nosferatu for inactivity? is that usual for them, or no?
and Shiro is barely a player, i had to check to remember they were here. they claimed miller then went on V/LA because they were busy.
i at least know why you're scumreading Nahdia. Ankamius is my favourite for a lynch out of those, but i don't feel your full list very much.

Why are you townreading Mcmenno? Show me where he scumhunts please.

Titus · Post Post #1595 (isolation #1) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:17 pm

Yeah, we're the same person.

Titus · Post Post #1596 (isolation #2) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:17 pm

God, why can't there be a wagon I like?

Titus · Post Post #1604 (isolation #3) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:06 pm

I just got to hey let's all vote town land and make Titus want to seppuku because she's probably useless.

Titus · Post Post #1631 (isolation #4) » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:17 pm

Why the fuck is everyone townreading me but I cannot get a decent wagon going?

Titus · Post Post #1678 (isolation #5) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 4:19 am

In post 1676, Shiro wrote:
In post 1674, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1673, Shiro wrote:
In post 1672, Maxous wrote:
In post 1671, Shiro wrote:ok so I will start reading today but can someone also give me a very quick recap of what is going on because I am at like page 10

Spoiler:
Got it, after that I do not think I even need to read the thread, I am ready to call the scum team out. 100% accuracy guranteed
DO IT
I can positivly say that

Leonshade
massive
Nosferatu
Titus

Are group scum and byt the summary I am pretty certain that

zakk

Is evil 3p

It was all so clear

Why would you refer to me as in the game if only on page 10?
Why is your list every easy target but me minus the large wagons?

Titus · Post Post #1685 (isolation #6) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:07 am

@McMenno, Had to try to save my alt.

@shiro, please read the post quoted by McMenno? Ready to sheep me on Nahdia/McMenno scum?

Titus · Post Post #1711 (isolation #7) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:38 am

VOTE: Nahdia

Let's go then.

Shiro, how long on the reread?

Titus · Post Post #1713 (isolation #8) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:42 am

In post 1712, Nahdia wrote:About damn time. How long have I been a universal scumread without getting any votes? Ridiculous.

You had some but your predecessor left. I have been waiting for this whole giga gave reasons so we cannot vote him, but Pepto didn't so we can vote Narna bullshit to end.

Titus · Post Post #1771 (isolation #9) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:37 am

@MoI

I have been focused on keeping my insides, inside and going for the scumreads that people want. I am not a infinite desperado.

Second, I am listening to my gut more on Zakk not less because listening to people on Zakk is how I got into trouble.

I'm basically willing to lynch any of my scumreads and am letting town pick.

@PeregrineV, We are not reading the same McMenno.

Titus · Post Post #1781 (isolation #10) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:47 am

In post 516, Skullduggery wrote:

This does not start Dear oh dear.

The third word does not start with D.

Titus · Post Post #1786 (isolation #11) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:51 am

I am wrong found a chart. Capitals and lower case have different symbols. Will verify shortly.

Titus · Post Post #1789 (isolation #12) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:53 am

Yeah, it's valid. Sly forgot a dash too but yeah.

Titus · Post Post #1795 (isolation #13) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:56 am

In post 1792, House wrote:
In post 1775, McMenno wrote:
In post 1769, SlySly wrote:
In post 1757, McMenno wrote:I think it's probably related to the incredibly long deadline
Do you trust the translation and think there could be relevance to the message?
it's wingdings and I'm lazy so yes

of that I'm not sure
It's not only wingdings. It's an
image
of wingdings.

Which means they had to be recreated in order to be translated.

Now, do you think they were mapped out and recreated... or did the translator create the message?

Comparison to a chart works as well.

Seriously, discussing wingdings is now a waste of time.

Who wants ice cream?

Titus · Post Post #1800 (isolation #14) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:57 am

In post 1797, SlySly wrote:McMenno, come to the bloc side.

You mean that's where we hit him over the head with a bloc, resulting in his lynch right?

Titus · Post Post #1820 (isolation #15) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:15 am

In post 1818, SlySly wrote:
In post 1812, PeregrineV wrote: It's a gif of wingdings. He apparently translated and posted it within 6 minutes.
Or, he already knew what it said.
Which means he is either responsible or knows who was responsible.
Which are the higher odds?
1. He translated it somehow within 6 minutes.
2. He already knew what it said.

Narna, same question to you.

Time is borked and it didn't take that long with a comparison chart.

Titus · Post Post #1821 (isolation #16) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:16 am

Stop trying to rolefish and frame Pepto to make up for a shitty read.

Titus · Post Post #1852 (isolation #17) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:45 am

In post 1834, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1831, Not Chara wrote:if that's your argument, Peregrine, then please look at my rebuttal. that translation was pure Undertale fan fervor.
Pepto translated it, got: "Dear oh dear. Rushing is how mistakes are made, you know." then chose to post it in capitals.
they didn't write it. i'm 100% sure.
they
might
have known what it said beforehand. but that's a reach.

OK, translate this. Go.

Ok you're on.

Titus · Post Post #1865 (isolation #18) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:52 am

In post 1857, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Can we get back to voting Nhadia? That was more entertaining than 'Wingdings Crisis 2016 ... Live Coverage"

Yeah seems like my chart was posted. I got through the first line with two phone calls already.

Wingdings is the most pointless thing ever.

Titus · Post Post #1867 (isolation #19) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:53 am

In post 1863, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1859, House wrote:VOTE: PeregrineV

He posted a wingdings image but doesn't even know capitalization matters when creating them.
Why did Pepto post his translation in all caps when he gave the message to skull in normal case?

The more common sense interpretation is that the deadline was always meant to be absurd and the mod made a mistake.

Titus · Post Post #1869 (isolation #20) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:56 am

In post 1868, House wrote:
In post 1867, Titus wrote:
In post 1863, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1859, House wrote:VOTE: PeregrineV

He posted a wingdings image but doesn't even know capitalization matters when creating them.
Why did Pepto post his translation in all caps when he gave the message to skull in normal case?
The more common sense interpretation is that the deadline was always meant to be absurd and the mod made a mistake.
Bullshit!

Then where else is the mistake?

Titus · Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:00 am

In post 1866, House wrote:
In post 1863, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1859, House wrote:VOTE: PeregrineV

He posted a wingdings image but doesn't even know capitalization matters when creating them.
Why did Pepto post his translation in all caps when he gave the message to skull in normal case?
I don't even care about any of that.

You didn't even know that capitalization matters when translating even though you'd have seen that when you made your own image if you actually made it yourself.

Ergo, you didn't make it.

Ergo, the one that made the first one made the second.

Ergo, you're scum.

This is the most ridiculous thing I have seen in mafia, and I live on the moon.

House, this is ridiculous. If PV crafted the message, he would know letters are different in wingdings.

Translating the mod message is simple. I would have done it before my cold.

No one is even talking about behavior anymore.

The scumteam is not going to pull a deadline stunt in a bastard game.

No.

Titus · Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:05 am

In post 1878, House wrote:
In post 1874, Titus wrote:House, this is ridiculous. If PV crafted the message, he would know letters are different in wingdings.
BUT HE DIDN'T KNOW!

So he didn't make it. Take a Xanax.

Please you're not helping me rest.

Titus · Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:07 am

Hey, if we are going with laughable theories, we're going with Nahdia is scum because she hasn't seen Star Wars.

Titus · Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:10 am

In post 1889, McMenno wrote:im actually star wars a third party but don't say im star wars or i lose

If I took you seriously, I would be rather tempted to say it.

Titus · Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:16 am

In post 1895, House wrote:
In post 1882, Titus wrote:
In post 1878, House wrote:
In post 1874, Titus wrote:House, this is ridiculous. If PV crafted the message, he would know letters are different in wingdings.
BUT HE DIDN'T KNOW!
So he didn't make it. Take a Xanax.

Please you're not helping me rest.
Note we're getting somewhere.

He didn't make it.

He posted it.

Where did he get it?

From Skull's post. Copy paste yo?

Titus · Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:19 am

In post 1897, House wrote:
In post 1896, Titus wrote:
In post 1895, House wrote:
In post 1882, Titus wrote:
In post 1878, House wrote:
In post 1874, Titus wrote:House, this is ridiculous. If PV crafted the message, he would know letters are different in wingdings.
BUT HE DIDN'T KNOW!
So he didn't make it. Take a Xanax.

Please you're not helping me rest.
Note we're getting somewhere.

He didn't make it.

He posted it.

Where did he get it?
From Skull's post. Copy paste yo?
The second one. Not the first.

Default font in word, screen cap, photobucket?

Titus · Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:23 am

In post 1901, House wrote:
In post 1899, Not Chara wrote:House: there is absolutely no way Peregrine did not write that message himself. it's literally as simple as having a word processor on hand and colouring it purple.
He didn't even know capitalized letters were different from lowercase letters, which he would have if he made the message himself.

He's a lying scumbutt that got the image from his buddy.

No. That's terribad MOONLOGIC.

Titus · Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:23 am

In post 1902, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yo this is dumb, can we actually get into some actual scumhunting? I liked that.

Vote nahdia

Titus · Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:39 pm

In post 1981, SlySly wrote:
In post 1867, Titus wrote: The more common sense interpretation is that the deadline was always meant to be absurd and the mod made a mistake.
House, is this what caused you to leave the bloc of awesome?

No. What caused him to leave the block of awesome is confbias.

Titus · Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:47 pm

In post 892, Blade Dancer wrote:Hey, House, I am surprised you haven't figured it out. I don't think revealing my main would encourage that. If you cannot judge me on my words but insist on baggage, then that's a problem. We don't judge based on the past but the present.

What's in front of you?

Oh, and you're not 180ing based on new information. You are trying to pidgeonhole a ridiculous theory. I don't mind because I hate being obvtown, but you are engaging in confbias. You "180ed" because I didn't buy your nonsense about Wingdings.

Titus · Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:49 pm

In post 1952, House wrote:Titus has been bugging the fuck out of me the entire game with zero attempt to sort me.

This is her scum game.

VOTE: Titus

Yeah, that's not even true though. You almost certainly knew who I was back earlier before my reveal and we're not bothered.

Titus · Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:50 pm

In post 1965, Ankamius wrote:There's a big difference between scumreading a bunch of people separately and thinking that they are all a team.

I cannot believe I am actually agreeing with Ank here.

Titus · Post Post #1995 (isolation #33) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:01 pm

In post 1994, Blade Dancer wrote:
In post 1992, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
In post 1986, Titus wrote:Yeah, that's not even true though.
You almost certainly knew who I was back earlier before my reveal
and we're not bothered.
Can you explain how you think this is a reasonable expectation at all?
The Xbox discussion where House and I talked. He bought me the Xbox.

Titus · Post Post #1999 (isolation #34) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:18 pm

Thank you House.

Titus · Post Post #2001 (isolation #35) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:19 pm

In post 1998, Nahdia wrote:{Gamma Emerald}
{Accountant, Titus, Andrius, Creature}
{zakk, Ankamius, Maxous, Not Chara}
{PeregrineV, House, SirCakez}
{massive, Nosferatu, Narna}
{SnarkySnowman, Shiro}
{McMenno, SlySly, MagnaOfIllusion}
{Leonshade}

VOTE: MagnaOfIllusion

What caused Cakey to jump when you pushed them all game?

Titus · Post Post #2006 (isolation #36) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:21 pm

In post 2005, Nahdia wrote:
In post 1978, Nahdia wrote:this obtuse attitude from SirCakez is reminding me of Zelda Mafia so i'll bump him up a few rungs, actually.

In post 1979, Nahdia wrote:as i recall in yuri maf he was a lot more defensive and in zelda he was a lot more aggressive. feels more like zelda cakez. bad. really bad. still can't read me. quite possibly town though.

I told you about that ages ago and you brushed me off though.

Titus · Post Post #2015 (isolation #37) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:28 pm

Sly, there's a spot here for you.

Titus · Post Post #2018 (isolation #38) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:31 pm

In post 2016, Nahdia wrote:
In post 2014, SirCakez wrote:But you tried to start up a McMenno wagon earlier, so there not being a wagon there shouldn't be a problem...
Him being V/LA is an OK excuse I guess
Felt I had bigger fish to fry, my man. Fish I were more sure were flippin' red. But at this point I'm feeling a bit less picky since the alternative appears to be yours truly.

Do you feel your wagon is town driven or scum driven?

Titus · Post Post #2020 (isolation #39) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:33 pm

In post 2017, Not Chara wrote:VOTE: Titus

You misspelled Nahdia.

Titus · Post Post #2027 (isolation #40) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:40 pm

@Nahdia, You were part of Space Dandy?

You can if you want. If you're scum you're forgoing a big advantage, body language.

Why don't you try to convince me Magna is scum? Why have you not pushed McMenno when the thread told me he was crazy?

Titus · Post Post #2030 (isolation #41) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:43 pm

In post 2026, Not Chara wrote:where i'm at with Nahdia is: thought process, changing reads, choice of responses... those look town.
comparing their games, they seem to be a bit closer to their scum style of posting with the AtE and the general tone. but i'm both bad at tone reading and bad at meta reading, so i've decided to listen to my head and not my gut. so Nahdia is town.
Titus, as Blade Dancer, struck me as town. Titus 2: Electric Boogaloo, aka the new Blade Dancer aka the original Titus, could very well be scum. let's see.

Cakez: is she? you know her better than me. right now, i like her more than both Nahdia and Magna.
you know who might be good? Andrius. or Accountant. especially Accountant. thoughts?

Hi. You want to back up that opinion? Or are you going to produce word salad?

I am the ice cream man vig, word salad fuels my bullets.

Titus · Post Post #2037 (isolation #42) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:49 pm

In post 2031, Nahdia wrote:
In post 2027, Titus wrote:@Nahdia, You were part of Space Dandy?

You can if you want. If you're scum you're forgoing a big advantage, body language.

Why don't you try to convince me Magna is scum? Why have you not pushed McMenno when the thread told me he was crazy?
Yes I was part of Space Dandy and that video comment was poking fun at something YOU did in Space Dandy. I mean I get that you play a lot of games but damn Titus I'm insulted you have no memory of this.

I remember the audio and the push on you due to bad info.

I am calling your bluff. Do something townish.

I was wrong before due to bad data, it happens. If you think that's true, door is open.

Titus · Post Post #2038 (isolation #43) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:50 pm

In post 2036, Not Chara wrote:
In post 2034, Nahdia wrote:OH GOD TITUS IS GUISED.
somehow, i feel as though giving a player access to Titus's account just for this game violates a lot of mafiascum rules.

It's a joke.

Titus · Post Post #2042 (isolation #44) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:58 pm

Can we turn those likes into votes?

Titus · Post Post #2046 (isolation #45) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:01 pm

In post 2044, Nahdia wrote:That last line in particular. MoI is nitpicky but that's just insane. Blatant grasping for justifications of a scumread.

I actually like Magna calling you out.

Titus · Post Post #2050 (isolation #46) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:02 pm

Yes I do.

Can you talk about your McMenno read?

Titus · Post Post #2098 (isolation #47) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 5:46 pm

In post 2095, Nosferatu wrote:none of the people I'm seeing as scum early on are being wagoned rn :/

that's discouraging.

Who are you seeing as scum?

Titus · Post Post #2099 (isolation #48) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 5:48 pm

In post 2093, Not Chara wrote:Titus: i'm waiting on you.

For what?

Titus · Post Post #2103 (isolation #49) » Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:52 pm

Vote me then scum.

Titus · Post Post #2128 (isolation #50) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:51 am

@nahdia, do you have a link for me? I has road trip.

Titus · Post Post #2132 (isolation #51) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:58 am

Looks like I am listening on the way back.

Titus · Post Post #2150 (isolation #52) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:06 am

In post 2149, Maxous wrote:VOTE: mcmenno

changed my mind on who i want to lynch

unrelated: that was a surprisingly poor wagon hop by ankamius.

VOTE: McMenno

A little shy of half way through the tape. Pulled off for food.

I am inclined to agree.

Titus · Post Post #2161 (isolation #53) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:28 am

@Zakk, Listen to the audio. I don't think Nahdia can fake that.

Titus · Post Post #2164 (isolation #54) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:33 am

In post 2136, Nahdia wrote:http://www.megafileupload.com/g73b/ohgo ... emafia.m4a i think this link works it's just the audio file.

There you go.

Titus · Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:14 am

I am not going to be here this evening.

Titus · Post Post #2198 (isolation #56) » Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:08 pm

In post 2193, Skullduggery wrote:
SnarkySnowman has been prodded.

Currently searching for a replacement for Accountant.

In post 2136, Nahdia wrote:http://www.megafileupload.com/g73b/ohgo ... emafia.m4a i think this link works it's just the audio file.

This is not okay. For a variety of reasons. Don't do this again.

I can't believe I even need to say this since it seems like common sense, but all communication in this game should be made in the game thread and in game-related private topics using typed text. Using audio files, videos, and things of that nature to discuss the game is not acceptable.

This warning is for the entire player list. The next person who does something like this will be mod-killed, no questions asked.

I had done it before in a Varsoon game. Sorry. :$

Yell at me.

Titus · Post Post #2223 (isolation #57) » Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:19 am

In post 2197, massive wrote:55:

OH YEAH WALK THAT SHIT BACK ZAKK

That McMenno thing, how did this last another 38 pages? *popcorn*

SirCakez saying his scum game has gone to shit recently in 1304, must mean more recently than TTH's Summer Mafia which just wound up in August.

Gonna eat something and see if I'm magically rejuvenated to keep going.

Massive, finally. Someone else sees it. We could use your vote.

Titus · Post Post #2224 (isolation #58) » Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:20 am

In post 2214, SnarkySnowman wrote:60 pages in and i still think house is scum, am I just totally misreading this???

Why?

Titus · Post Post #2226 (isolation #59) » Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:29 am

Hi. Can you vote McMenno with me Firesan?

Titus · Post Post #2229 (isolation #60) » Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:42 am

In post 2228, Firebringer wrote:I can only see people calling me fire-san if they are being manipulative.
I don't trust either of you right now.

You oughta know by now everything in mafia is manipulation. I don't mind doing do either way.

Sort me. I'm right here.

Titus · Post Post #2232 (isolation #61) » Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:47 am

In post 2230, Firebringer wrote:
In post 2229, Titus wrote:
In post 2228, Firebringer wrote:I can only see people calling me fire-san if they are being manipulative.
I don't trust either of you right now.
You oughta know by now everything in mafia is manipulation. I don't mind doing do either way.

Sort me. I'm right here.
Well Titus chan, I am thinking you are scum right now.
You attitude so far doesn't feel townie.

Why? I am the nice guy.

why you gotta be mean?

Titus · Post Post #2235 (isolation #62) » Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:59 am

In post 2234, Firebringer wrote:This isn't how Town!Titus responds.....
This is so weird...

Her posts don't sound real at all.

Titus · Post Post #2240 (isolation #63) » Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:03 am

In post 2237, Firebringer wrote:Titus, want to explain your reads?

Which ones or are you asking for a read wall?

Titus · Post Post #2242 (isolation #64) » Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:09 am

In post 2241, Firebringer wrote:
In post 2240, Titus wrote:
In post 2237, Firebringer wrote:Titus, want to explain your reads?
Which ones or are you asking for a read wall?
I would like a read wall actually, cause i skimmed your iso and it was definitely devoid of the Titus I know and love.

Add Blade Dancer lol.

Doing it now.

Titus · Post Post #2246 (isolation #65) » Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:24 am

Zakk - Strong lean town, never liked the push on him, wagon had a salesman type feel to it, I don't mind his pushes although I disagree
Sircakez - Weak lean town, he feels kinda fake but like college mafia fake, not scummy fake
House - Strong town lean, my sole reservation was his awkward push on me.
Maxous - Strong town lean, not many posts but I agree with what he says a lot.
Creature - Just feels town. It's Creature, not going to get more detail.
PeregrineV - Lean town - Like his activity level for him but the wingdings makes me want to ahhhh.
Blade Dancer - Conftown - Hgvugvuyvutcygcugvuyv moon
Shiro - Strong scum lean - Needs to get in here
MagnaofIllusion - Townie - Some are worried about the plausibility of their stands. I think town. I want a few flips or a major event before determining.
Nosferatu - Lean scum - no memorable anything, despite promises
Nahdia - Town - I don't think scum rise to my challenge like she did
Accountant/Firebringer - Weak town lean - decent thoughts but feel off, like I don't see how fire can compare this to Street racer, at all.
Not Chara - Decent opening, but seems to wind up on all the wrong wagons
ankimaus - I had him as strong scum but read is in flux given recent play over the past 3-4 days.
SlySly - newb town
McMenno - hasn't sorted a slot all game, and in massive deflection mode
SnarkySnowman - weak lean town for his desire to sort House
Narna - Scum garbage counter
Gamma Emerald - try and scum case this. I dare you. I will cut you.
leonshade - needs vigging
Andrius - Needs to fight me
massive - like his recent posting but need more

Titus · Post Post #2251 (isolation #66) » Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:55 am

In post 2249, SlySly wrote:Titus, look at my join date. That doesn't make me good, but I'm not new.

You act like you haven't been here in years.

#blunthonesty

Titus · Post Post #2256 (isolation #67) » Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:07 am

In post 2254, House wrote:Did somebody who did listen please out the claim?

I'm sure scum already knows, so town should as well.

There wasn't one. Nahdia flirted with the idea but never claimed.

Titus · Post Post #2306 (isolation #68) » Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:49 pm

Well, current events make me feel a lot better about Nahdia living, no sarcasm.

Fuck me if Fire's scum here.

Your thoughts on McMenno Fire?

Titus · Post Post #2308 (isolation #69) » Sat Oct 15, 2016 2:04 pm

Please do.

I didn't say I thought you were town. I do think it's weird. The tone was more of aww shit is Fire scum?

Titus · Post Post #2313 (isolation #70) » Sat Oct 15, 2016 2:23 pm

In post 2312, Firebringer wrote:
In post 7, McMenno wrote:VOTE: sircakez

>this is a large theme
>sircakez is in this large theme
>sircakez is scum
Quick skim of Mcmenno tells me that he is probably town.
FIrst off, that openning post. Super townlike.

Like cakez gets fucking scum so much in large themes its ridiculous, i thought it was townlike to point it out.
He also gives way more substantial thought than is normal for himself.
Yeah, I think mcmenno is town this game.

That opening post has been scum every time I have seen it

but from you

.

I cannot find a single scumhunting question in his entire USO.

Titus · Post Post #2322 (isolation #71) » Sat Oct 15, 2016 2:38 pm

In post 2315, Firebringer wrote:
In post 2313, Titus wrote:That opening post has been scum every time I have seen it but from you.

I cannot find a single scumhunting question in his entire USO.
Can you expand on the first part more. I am confused.
That openning post was at worst point Null.

In Sukioden, I did some on this. LQ said I was always scum. He was.
In Inorganic Chemistry, Mastina accused my slot of always being scum. She was.
In NY 191,Davesto accused me of always being scum. He was.

Davesto also did not scumhunt and merely omgused me.

So I take major objection to you saying that McMenno's post is town.

Titus · Post Post #2325 (isolation #72) » Sat Oct 15, 2016 3:19 pm

In post 2323, Firebringer wrote:Titus nothing personal but nothing from sukioden was personally memorable for me beyond my hydra partner telling me it was there last game and i was sad about that.
You brining that up all the time to me is weird?

Stop deflecting. You asked for why I felt McMenno's post was bad. I highlighted a game you were in and a few others. That is not weird despite your lack of memory.

Titus · Post Post #2350 (isolation #73) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:19 am

@nahdia, join us on McMenno?

@Fire, You sober. I would like to see your readwall.

Titus · Post Post #2357 (isolation #74) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:02 am

In post 2350, Titus wrote:@nahdia, join us on McMenno?

@Fire, You sober. I would like to see your readwall.

Fire...

Titus · Post Post #2376 (isolation #75) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:06 am

Shiro, join me on McMenno?

Titus · Post Post #2385 (isolation #76) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:25 am

In post 2384, Shiro wrote:
In post 2382, McMenno wrote:wait, I just realised something, if titus is scum then nahdia is more likely to be town...
Nahdia is def town yo

Yeah, she responded well to my call out.

Shiro, I want your thoughts on McMenno.

Titus · Post Post #2386 (isolation #77) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:26 am

In post 2377, Shiro wrote:
In post 2376, Titus wrote:Shiro, join me on McMenno?
Give me a basic reason, I will ISO him real quick while listenin gto Nahdia and get back to you(for real this time)

See his ISO. No Scumhunting at all.

Titus · Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:30 am

@SirCakez, I am townreading almost all the players on McMenno and have significant reservations on those pushing me. They were talking about hammering me with two votes. Might as well put a neon sign that McMenno is scum.

@Shiro, I would like you to elaborate more because McMenno is textbook Denmark repeat.

Titus · Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:36 am

Welcome Yume!

Titus · Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:48 am

Gamma is obvtown, zakk is weak town. It's Fire and Not Chara who are sketchy.

Nahdia is town. Narna isn't questionable. Massive is meh, but he's improved lately.

Titus · Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:57 am

In post 2410, SirCakez wrote:
In post 2402, Not Chara wrote:
In post 2400, SirCakez wrote:Hi Yume, join our Nahdia wagon
Nahdia's town. join the Titus wagon.
Other way around
In post 2405, Titus wrote:@SirCakez, I am townreading almost all the players on McMenno and have significant reservations on those pushing me. They were talking about hammering me with two votes. Might as well put a neon sign that McMenno is scum.

@Shiro, I would like you to elaborate more because McMenno is textbook Denmark repeat.
Massive and Nahdia and narna are voting McMenno
That wagon is dirty as hell

Nahdia's response to my callout was town as fuck.

Massive might be bussing or just weak town.

Titus · Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:08 pm

In post 2413, Shiro wrote:
In post 2405, Titus wrote:@Shiro, I would like you to elaborate more because McMenno is textbook Denmark repeat.
I do not even remember him bein gin denmark, are you mistakin ghim for dwee ?

No.

McMenno ISO matches Davesto almost flawlessly.

Titus · Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:27 pm

In post 2416, Shiro wrote:
In post 2415, Titus wrote:
In post 2413, Shiro wrote:
In post 2405, Titus wrote:@Shiro, I would like you to elaborate more because McMenno is textbook Denmark repeat.
I do not even remember him bein gin denmark, are you mistakin ghim for dwee ?
No.

McMenno ISO matches Davesto almost flawlessly.
.......

menno isnt davsto though.

If it walks like scum, and talks like scum, why are you townreading it?

@SirCakez, Why do you disagree? I issued a challenge to Nahdia. She answered.

Titus · Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:38 pm

In post 2421, SirCakez wrote:because that's nahdia scum 101

Nahdia scum scumhunts in response to being challenged with a lynch, and continues to do so?

What do you think the town response should be?

Titus · Post Post #2434 (isolation #85) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:02 pm

In post 2429, SirCakez wrote:
In post 2422, McMenno wrote:
In post 2420, Titus wrote:If it walks like scum, and talks like scum, why are you townreading it?
@cakez
Because it always walks like scum and talks like scum (I assume this is referring to mcmenno)
In post 2426, Titus wrote:
In post 2421, SirCakez wrote:because that's nahdia scum 101
Nahdia scum scumhunts in response to being challenged with a lynch, and continues to do so?

What do you think the town response should be?
yes
The same thing, because nahdia scum is excellent at looking like nahdia town
you have to look at the little things

Nah, I am pretty good at reading McMenno. He doesn't look like scum as town, scum just like to push him.

What little things?

Titus · Post Post #2441 (isolation #86) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:33 pm

In post 2440, Narna wrote:
In post 2420, Titus wrote:
In post 2416, Shiro wrote:
In post 2415, Titus wrote:
In post 2413, Shiro wrote:
In post 2405, Titus wrote:@Shiro, I would like you to elaborate more because McMenno is textbook Denmark repeat.
I do not even remember him bein gin denmark, are you mistakin ghim for dwee ?
No.

McMenno ISO matches Davesto almost flawlessly.
.......

menno isnt davsto though.
If it walks like scum, and talks like scum, why are you townreading it?
What is this? Do you normally compare two different players from two different games to convince people?

Yeah, if the shoe fits. I have been developing the "always scum" tell for awhile.

Second, I studied social psychology and sociology in college. I apply them in hunting.

We all do when we say certain things are "townie" or "scummy".

Titus · Post Post #2445 (isolation #87) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:48 pm

In post 2443, Andrius wrote:Titus!

Will dinner suffice, or would you rather fight me behind the gym during recess?

Dinner suffices if I bring the ice cream.

I am adamant on McMenno, but will compromise on NC if McMenno fails.

Why are you townreading McMenno?

Titus · Post Post #2447 (isolation #88) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:02 pm

In post 2446, Gamma Emerald wrote:What even is the BP claim gambit? Does it actually catch scum? All it seems to do is catch people who didn't read the thread.

The gambit looks for reactions and tries to throw people off guard.

By throwing players off guard, you get reactions.

Titus · Post Post #2450 (isolation #89) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:18 pm

She's not lurking. She's generating a lot of content and very little spam.

As for scum liking to push him, that's a green flag because no one scummy is driving this wagon.

Titus · Post Post #2451 (isolation #90) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:19 pm

In post 2448, Andrius wrote:I admit, I haven't been paying attention to him lately, been focusing on other people. I had a sliggt townread on him early.

If you have words, I'd read them. I'll do some digging later but phoneposting atm.

His ISO has zero sorting, zero attempt to determine players, no analysis. It's just active, aggressive lurking.

Titus · Post Post #2453 (isolation #91) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:33 pm

In post 2452, SirCakez wrote:
In post 2450, Titus wrote:She's not lurking. She's generating a lot of content and very little spam.

As for scum liking to push him, that's a green flag because no one scummy is driving this wagon.
She's under high scrutiny right now, obv she's not going to be lurking. When she's being left alone is when you have to analyze.
There are a lot of scummy people on the wagon...

Cakez, are we just going in circles?

Titus · Post Post #2455 (isolation #92) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:55 pm

Yeah, this is one of those games...

Titus · Post Post #2459 (isolation #93) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:19 pm

@Shiro, the mod has ruled that inadmissible.

Titus · Post Post #2468 (isolation #94) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:57 pm

In post 2466, SlySly wrote:Firebringer(Accountant), did the fact you are playing in a bastard theme game even enter as a factor while casting alignment possibility on to your scumread of Titus(Blade)? You don't think in a wild game like this that there could be more factors than normal in play?

Fire's probably scum.

All he's done is make 1 bad meta reference and defend obvious scum.

Titus · Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:07 pm

In post 2535, Not Chara wrote:
In post 2035, Not Chara wrote:word salad is my only weapon. i can go on for hours about nothing at all.
you have to work on those heavy handed crumbs, Titus.

so, your McMenno push. i've been working it around in my head and.. yeah, like? i see where town Titus gets that one. you've got precedent for that tell you were pushing so hard. so that's town.
it's the rest of your play that i'm not a fan of. maybe it's your being ill, or tired or.. i'm not really sure what you've been hinting that you're feeling like but it could be one of those. i don't feel like you're throwing your weight around. your interactions with Nahdia, who you want lynched, also lack that oomph. let's talk about that.

pedit: is that a serious wondering, Nahdia? i don't really believe it is.
Titus, did you ever end up responding to this? i feel as though i'm being largely ignored by you. i'm mentioned as a passing scumread, and that's it.
Andrius: i don't remember which post had you saying this, and i don't care to find it right now, but. you claimed i was only fine with lynching you after you mentioned a scumread on me. ISO me with your name, you'll find that isn't true. try again.

Ok, things lack something to you. Bullshit. You cannot claim I am obvious town (hint I am) and then blame me for the fact McMenno isn't getting votes.

Titus · Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:09 pm

In post 2548, Not Chara wrote:the problem with Titus being scum is that i have no concrete evidence posts. i can't quote contradictions, or posts where she's manipulating people.
it's simple a terribly bad feeling that has been compounded by her odd behaviour. Titus has quite a presence in games i've read in the past, no i will not be providing examples but all games are completed, and those who are familiar with her really should know what i mean. i don't see that here. she's tunneling, because she's a tunneler and she knows it, but there's no wider sense. there isn't any wildly connecting McMenno through associatives to find his scumteam, from her point of view.
she isn't engaging with me no matter how many potshots i throw her way.
hm. actually, looking at her reads progression might help communicate this.
Titus is
stubborn
. Titus is not being stubborn.

You are not reading if you think any slot is not manipulative. I goaded Nahdia into providing better reads. That straight up was manipulation.

I didn't engage with you this morning because I for once in my life was living outside of this game.

Now, why the fuck are you chainsawing on McMenno's behalf?

Titus · Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:11 pm

In post 2550, Narna wrote:My shifting Titus read is kind of the same thing I'm on mcmenno for. They both have pretty much tunneled weak early reads for 100 pages. The bus thing stems from me feeling like this (mcmenno) lynch will not go through with Nahdia and I, and an assumption that Titus would also recognize this.

Fuck off on this being a weak read. No one has given a single concrete reason for McMenno being town despite days of me prodding. Now, as for this being a weak case, that's what scum used in Denmark too. This case is as solid as they come without a slip.

Titus · Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:12 pm

In post 2556, Nahdia wrote:Since he hopped on the McMenno wagon.

VOTE: Leonshade

Anyone? Please?

Nahdia, wtf? We need every vote we can get on scum.

Titus · Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:13 pm

In post 2561, Nahdia wrote:
Not Chara wrote:
In post 2556, Nahdia wrote:Since he hopped on the McMenno wagon.

VOTE: Leonshade

Anyone? Please?
you were on McMenno too.
why is Leonshade scum for it?
He's not scum for it. He's scum, and I don't want to be on the same wagon as him.

PeregrineV has made some weird posts lately and has gone a bit down on my list.

NotChara on the other hand has started looking really genuine again and is getting bumped back up.

My god. You know how impossible it is to even get a decent wagon in this game, now you want me to get a scum wagon with no scum, while some of them are pushing my Mislynch. I am not God. Please suck it up.

Titus · Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:15 pm

In post 2572, Maxous wrote:look some people might feel like i'm being a dick but somebody needs to put the foot down here.

this is helping nobody. it's way past diminishing returns - get a wagon and
lynch somebody

Like McMenno. I would volunteer for every bad action for the rest of the game if he flips town. He won't.

Titus · Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:18 pm

In post 2587, Not Chara wrote:wow. it is amazing how your response had nothing to do with what i said. i even said your McMenno push was in line with you as town.
and you're not obvious town. at all, really. from where do you get that?
i'm surprised you're not asking for me to back up my meta. how about you show me how i'm dealing with town Titus here and not scum Titus.

pedit: poking people is not the same thing as manipulation. you may call it that, but my definition of the word, and how i've been using it, refers to scum who are trying to form the wagons as they please. either to lynch town or keep their buddies from being lynched. that's what i'm referring to.

you'll find my scumread has little to do with your McMenno push. the last post you quoted even has my conclusion about that. 'so that's town'. that part read town. it's the
rest
.
i'm not talking about this morning, either. you just finally responded to 2035, which i posted... last Thursday. and in this game in general, i've not been engaged by you.

I get I am obvious town from the obvious town like Maxous saying I am and the main pushers on me are slots like you that say nothing of substance but seek permission from others.

You want more engagement, put something tangible that doesn't follow the crowd.

I occasionally miss a post or two. I don't reply to fluff or gut. You want my attention, SAY SOMETHING USEFUL.

Titus · Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:19 pm

In post 2591, Not Chara wrote:not a volunteer to be lynched? a volunteer for all bad actions? ;>
the wink indicates a joke. still, though. you're scum.

Maxous was also voting McMenno when he made that post. but, good on you for telling him to lynch the player he wants lynched.

He was. I was encouraging him to stay on the one decent wagon all fucking game.

Titus · Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:41 pm

In post 2596, Not Chara wrote:you keep firing what little ammunition you have, Titus.
i know you don't have any, because i'm right. you're not accusing me of erroneous or misapplied meta. you're not even asking for clarification. you're barely pushing me, and what you are saying is entirely vague issues you apparently have with my play, yet cannot pinpoint.

Cakez: where am i wrong with Titus? look at her recent posting.

Little ammunition? That's exactly what scum said in the other game too.
i am accusing you of not even reading or trying to sort me but just saying "shit's off" or dome variant to skate by while Sheeping anything you got a pass on.
Firebringer is using erroneous meta that borders on outright fiction (street fighter) while doing nothing else.
I don't really get how you can argue that I am bring vague here when I have said this game is déjà vu.

Here, let's try specifics since SAY SOMETHING USEFUL wasn't clear.

State your reads.

Titus · Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:42 pm

In post 2607, Ankamius wrote:
In post 2581, Not Chara wrote:
In post 2577, Ankamius wrote:ewwwww

FoS: Leonshade wagon
why is Leonshade town, and what's invalid about the point Nahdia brought up?
to round things out nicely: what is the scum motivation in starting
another
wagon when there's support for others? do you think all of those wagons are on scum?
why are you still voting Narna?
I can easily see town coming back from a V/LA to the game thread more than doubling, then deciding that instead of trying to read through the entire thread that they haven't seen yet to try to catch up on the game, they'll instead sheep their strongest town read and try to catch up based on what's going on now instead. Trying to force a case on him not being willing to sheep onto his scumreads over this is scummy as shit, especially since his scumreads didn't exactly look strong beforehand.

PEdit: FFS GUYS

You're quickly moving out of my scum pool.

Titus · Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:47 pm

In post 2615, Not Chara wrote:
In post 2607, Ankamius wrote:
In post 2581, Not Chara wrote:
In post 2577, Ankamius wrote:ewwwww

FoS: Leonshade wagon
why is Leonshade town, and what's invalid about the point Nahdia brought up?
to round things out nicely: what is the scum motivation in starting
another
wagon when there's support for others? do you think all of those wagons are on scum?
why are you still voting Narna?
I can easily see town coming back from a V/LA to the game thread more than doubling, then deciding that instead of trying to read through the entire thread that they haven't seen yet to try to catch up on the game, they'll instead sheep their strongest town read and try to catch up based on what's going on now instead. Trying to force a case on him not being willing to sheep onto his scumreads over this is scummy as shit, especially since his scumreads didn't exactly look strong beforehand.

PEdit: FFS GUYS
sure. i don't think the case is forced. i mean, sheeping town who is also sheeping your nullish-townread? when there's a wagon on both of your scumreads? it's valid to read that as town, but it also makes sense to read it as scum.
you didn't answer why scum want to start another wagon here.

You know what also makes sense.

Scum trying to wagon everyone who votes McMenno that they can get away with.

Go ahead, keep shading Leon.

Titus · Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:05 pm

In post 2621, Not Chara wrote:god, nevermind. that's too much work. the point is my reads are all here. if you don't know my reads, Titus, you really are not looking. but i'll make you a list if you're still really, really confused.

pedit: don't just dump a giant post and expect us to know what you're pointing at.

Make the list.

I don't generally ask people for read walls if it's clear where they stand.

Titus · Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:06 pm

In post 2629, Not Chara wrote:i'm pushing her. obviously.
the scumread is bad, because i think Firebringer is town. i'm saying Titus isn't being ridiculous in that her actions make sense and she isn't contradicting herself or indulging in confbiasing.
the Firebringer scumread is a straight-forward: this player is pushing me, so i need to discredit them.

So, you're arguing that I make too much sense so I have to be scum?

You're eating rope after McMenno.

Titus · Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:18 pm

In post 2637, Not Chara wrote:2632: like, this is really just taking out of context a conversation on a point i was having with SirCakez. it started with 2625.

No, it isn't. I have played here long enough to know when I am bring shaded for making too much sense and not confbiasing.

You are scraping here.

What is your read of McMenno separate from me?

Titus · Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:20 pm

*throws hands in air*

Wake me on Day 3 when someone guilties McMenno.

Titus · Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:36 pm

Fire is probably town for these posts, which makes this all the more aggrevating.

Creature, thank you.

Titus · Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:37 pm

In post 2660, Firebringer wrote:VOTE: mcmenno
Compromise!!!!!!

Thank you.

Titus · Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:47 pm

In post 2663, Firebringer wrote:I am lynching my townreads and voting with my scumreads, where the hell did I learn how to play mafia.

You need a better picker and meta detector.

Titus · Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:54 pm

In post 2675, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2673, Firebringer wrote:
In post 2668, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2660, Firebringer wrote:VOTE: mcmenno
Compromise!!!!!!
NO YOU DUMBFUCK
COMPROMISE LYNCHES ARE THE DEVIL
Your right but I am in hell anyways
INFINITE DAYTIME IS NOT THE TIME TO COMPROMISE LYNCH AT ALL

Gamma,

Are you townreading McMenno? If so, why, with specific posts.

Titus · Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:12 pm

In post 2688, SlySly wrote:Titus. McMenno is town.

Based on what?

Titus · Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:21 pm

In post 2690, SlySly wrote:
In post 2689, Titus wrote:
In post 2688, SlySly wrote:Titus. McMenno is town.
Based on what?
His reads and the scum that have jumped on and off his wagon.

I haven't seen one decent read or question. And preflip associations are bad.

Show me where his reads are good.

Titus · Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:33 pm

In post 2696, SlySly wrote:
In post 2694, Titus wrote: And preflip associations are bad.
You asked, good or bad, this was part of the equation when I iso'd.

And I asked so we could get to the root of things. None of what you quoted is a

read

. Those are conclusions. A read involves an explanation, a discussion, a dialogue. Even as much as quoting a post and saying "this is town" can be sufficient if someone can explain their thoughts.

McMenno isn't doing that.

Titus · Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:44 pm

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

This is town McMenno. Night and Day.

Titus · Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:14 am

In post 2725, McMenno wrote:okay so...

what was titus' read on me during dragon age

she was like pushing me a lot and then in her last will said "yeah they're town"

I'm trying to grasp that

After Day 1, my reads went bad due to a ridiculously improbable event (scum acting and then submitting a no kill). Even then, it caused me only 1 fake clear.

Titus · Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:17 am

In post 2713, SirCakez wrote:Titus why do you think NC is scum? Let me just go to the point.
That was a pretty bad sequence of posts from Menno.

Andrius says it better than me but she's basically pushing only where it is popular and has no depth to reads. She's also pushing me based on garbage.

Titus · Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:33 am

In post 2744, Not Chara wrote:
In post 2741, Titus wrote:
In post 2713, SirCakez wrote:Titus why do you think NC is scum? Let me just go to the point.
That was a pretty bad sequence of posts from Menno.
Andrius says it better than me but she's basically pushing only where it is popular and has no depth to reads. She's also pushing me based on garbage.
i'm still waiting for who i am pushing who's popular and who i'm following. you haven't said so.

Well, it was me, and whichever town you could blame.

Do you think I am town or not?

Titus · Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:36 am

In post 2748, Gamma Emerald wrote:RE 2742: yeah that looks bad.
@Titus: who do you think is town that could be blamed on your wagon?

You, zakk, maybe Fire

Titus · Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:43 am

In post 2753, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2749, Titus wrote:
In post 2748, Gamma Emerald wrote:RE 2742: yeah that looks bad.
@Titus: who do you think is town that could be blamed on your wagon?
You, zakk, maybe Fire
LOL have you not caught on to the fact a lynch on me would be a bad idea? I'm town, but no one would blame me. Anyway, I'm actually one of the followers. Watcha got to say to that?

That 99.9% of what you say in here is wrong. Why not take credit for your push?

I generally do think lynches on town are bad. why did you think I wanted to lynch you?

Titus · Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:01 am

In post 2756, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2754, Titus wrote:
In post 2753, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2749, Titus wrote:
In post 2748, Gamma Emerald wrote:RE 2742: yeah that looks bad.
@Titus: who do you think is town that could be blamed on your wagon?
You, zakk, maybe Fire
LOL have you not caught on to the fact a lynch on me would be a bad idea? I'm town, but no one would blame me. Anyway, I'm actually one of the followers. Watcha got to say to that?
That 99.9% of what you say in here is wrong. Why not take credit for your push?

I generally do think lynches on town are bad. why did you think I wanted to lynch you?
I don't like taking credit for pushes anymore; it's dangerous business. And I'm saying NC may have been trying to lynch me.

That's horribly unclear and you absolutely SHOULD take credit for your pushes. It firms up reads. There's a difference between owning your own reads and minimizing everyone else's.

That nc was trying to lynch you is not clear. Where do you get that idea?

Titus · Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:02 am

In post 2763, zakk wrote:
Hey guys

Ok so I've been thinking... and it's almost 100% likely that there are two scum teams because it's been so hard to push any wagons through and because nobody on a scum team really wants to lynch anyone that they don't think is town, because town is the biggest faction and the biggest enemy at the moment. Also, they don't want to be seen to be pushing a rival scum wagon because that would make them a NK target for the other scum team.

It's quite possible scum have day talk, given the amount of fluctuation of wagons and the timing of how it happened. like somebody else said, whether that's a passive ability or whether it's encryptor-enabled is anyone's guess.

Basically I think the best play for scum today would be to be on a wagon without leading it, because leading it would be dangerous if it flipped scum. also, they need to buddy up to rival scum until town is no longer a huge threat. Or at least, they need to seem like they are not a huge threat themselves, so that the rival scum team well target someone besides them.

And then the best play for town is to be on the wagon of somebody who is pretty scummy. But also keep in mind that any wagon is going to be difficult because nobody on the scum teams really wants to be seen as pushing it. It would be pretty bad play for scum to be super active, but it would be pretty good play for town to be super active. Obviously that doesn't mean that all the active players are town but generally speaking.

I think scum are less likely to do stuff like grandstand in a situation like this. Unless it's to save themselves, like Nahdia. I'm still undecided on that slot. Speaking of which, somebody said there was a claim in there? I think we need to get all the claims on the table. I'm 100% sure that scum has already been writing them down meticulously, so us townies might as well have something like that too.

Please let me know your thoughts, everyone.

Please also excuse any typos, I made this post on voice to text.

Punt, until flips support or disprove multiball.

Titus · Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:04 am

In post 2793, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
In post 2787, zakk wrote:Yeah Leonshade is town.

In post 2788, zakk wrote:Pls provide reasons for these reads
These two post back to back don’t compute from a Town perspective …

Boo, you totally removed the context. That's particularly bad given the discussion I just had with Sly that you're aware of.

Titus · Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:06 am

Why not Magna?

Titus · Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:58 pm

In post 2851, Andrius wrote:
In post 2850, Narna wrote:This vanity wagon is pointless VOTE: Mcmenno

I'm not buying into NC being scum for now.
You going to change your mind later when its more convenient, or what.

Are they or are they not scum.

Andrius, I agree with most of your townreads but we are not syncing on scumreads. I would like to sync up but now is not the time to do so, I don't really know what to do with it beyond trying to reinforce the good I see in townreads because people hate me being so hostile.

#reachout

Titus · Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:01 pm

In post 2861, McMenno wrote:ftr titus is a townread now

Why?

Titus · Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:25 pm

In post 2866, SlySly wrote:
In post 2861, McMenno wrote:ftr titus is a townread now
Titus is giving me the feeling of someone that warms up to you so they can stab you in the back during a bro-hug.

Well, I'd have to get a sex change to do a bro-hug. So nope, I can proudly state I have never backstab bed during a bro hug. I do backstab scum though so.....

Titus · Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:30 pm

In post 2870, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'm thinking a lot of this game will be wagon analysis.

Hey, if we're both alive or both dead, I will give you a primer day 5 (provided a scum lynch, not guilty based and significant deaths).

Titus · Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:31 pm

In post 2873, SlySly wrote:
In post 2872, Titus wrote:
In post 2866, SlySly wrote:
In post 2861, McMenno wrote:ftr titus is a townread now
Titus is giving me the feeling of someone that warms up to you so they can stab you in the back during a bro-hug.
Well, I'd have to get a sex change to do a bro-hug. So nope, I can proudly state I have never backstab bed during a bro hug. I do backstab scum though so.....
I'm sorry, I was just typing and "Titus" forced me to type an instinctive "he" in response. Change "bro-hug" to a "bless your little heart-hug".

Tone's not my thing. I was poking fun. :-p

Titus · Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:32 pm

In post 2876, Gamma Emerald wrote:WTF is a primer?

A short course.

A nutshell if you will.

Titus · Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:05 pm

Yume, I would love to hear from you. I have to be less protective, but I need to sort you.

Don't worry about if it's weak. Just talk to me.

Titus · Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:58 pm

Sly sly, can you at least cast pretend votes so we know where you stand?

Don't even use the word vote if paranoid.

Say something like Vanilla Cake: McMenno.

Titus · Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:24 pm

Yume, you're breaking my heart here. Are you scum?

Titus · Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:52 am

In post 2978, Nahdia wrote:In all seriousness though, if there's a vig, you should be hitting a lurker slot.

Nah, shoot someone who was wagoned, even if it's me night 1. Then drop lurkers.

Titus · Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:10 am

In post 2991, Firebringer wrote:No one shoot Titus. I have evil plans for her.

Looking forward to it.

Titus · Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:32 pm

That wagon looks a lot like the wagon on me.

Titus · Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:02 pm

I take it no one did their civic duty and watched the debate or lynched Mcmenno.

Titus · Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:05 pm

I finally figured how how this game is bastard.

Everyone is probably useless.

Titus · Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:06 pm

In post 3122, Leonshade wrote:Are you kidding me? A wagon hits L-1, there's a VT claim and the wagon gets derailed? Are you just blatantly fishing for PR claims or what?

This Magna wagon is scummy as fuck, I don't approve of it.

VOTE: Narna

This is a better wagon.

Not interested in a Magna-zakk 1v1. Don't like the wagon against Magna and while my zakk TR is residual, nothing has happened to change it.

Who claimed VT?

Titus · Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:26 pm

In post 3126, Leonshade wrote:McMenno.

No, he claimed useless not vt.

Titus · Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:56 pm

In post 3128, Andrius wrote:Titus.
I am losing my wits and will.
How can I help thee?

I am at the same place and exhausted. Nahdia isn't scum.

The behavior around the McMenno wagon is wierd as fuck.

At this point, I would lynch anyone I am not townreading.

@Leonshade, Yes. There are roles such as Neopolitans and Vanilla cops that get positives on vanillas and you would be misleading them.

Titus · Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:35 pm

In post 3135, Andrius wrote:
In post 3131, Titus wrote:
In post 3128, Andrius wrote:Titus.
I am losing my wits and will.
How can I help thee?
I am at the same place and exhausted. Nahdia isn't scum.

The behavior around the McMenno wagon is wierd as fuck.

At this point, I would lynch anyone I am not townreading.

@Leonshade, Yes. There are roles such as Neopolitans and Vanilla cops that get positives on vanillas and you would be misleading them.
Its all wrong. There's so much hesitancy on lynching anyone since we can't get close.

I mean, I'm not 100% complaining since I can sit here and rack up Pacifist Points but Its still frustrating.

Yes, that's because obvious town cannot agree on who to lynch.

Titus · Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:39 pm

In post 3139, Andrius wrote:Well let me go see who you're voting and join up.

You're townreading McMenno.

Let's see if we can both lynch null scum and be happy.

Titus · Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:59 pm

Can you list everyone you're willing to lynch? I will list everyone I am. We'll vote someone in the joint pool.

Titus · Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:01 pm

Yume, Shiro, nos, Snarky, McMenno and Magna is mine.

Titus · Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:02 pm

Oh forgot nc, but that's like last resort level.

Titus · Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:13 pm

Tbh, that kinda gives me worries about sly in the .00001% chance I am wrong.

Titus · Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:14 pm

I am going to bed. See you tomorrow.

Titus · Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:39 am

In post 3158, Not Chara wrote:Titus. you're not voting Magna.

With you pushing it, why would I want to? Either you're scum or your judgment is terrible this game.

I'd rather try to work with Andrius.

Titus · Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:25 am

@NC, You are pushing it and so is Fire.

@Andrius, Let's do Shiro. We agree there. If we're going to protest the major wagon, let's throw our collective weight behind something.

VOTE: Shiro

Titus · Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:22 am

In post 3178, SirCakez wrote:
In post 3157, zakk wrote:Cakez pls

I'm trying to have a 1v1 here

You can have your 1v1 but I don't have to like it

You could vote Shiro with us.

Titus · Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:40 am

In post 3180, Firebringer wrote:
In post 3163, Titus wrote:
In post 3158, Not Chara wrote:Titus. you're not voting Magna.
With you pushing it, why would I want to? Either you're scum or your judgment is terrible this game.

I'd rather try to work with Andrius.
How can you know someone's judgement is terrible when you have zero flips to know that?

I know I am town.

Titus · Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:53 am

In post 3189, Firebringer wrote:Titus is fine when her scum reads join her on a wagon.
But when a new wagon forms on a scum read of hers that she isn't pushing? She calls foul? Like what is this?

My scumreads (Fire and nC) are the driver and it's a counter to another scum read (McMenno). That's two neon signs I am wrong on Magna.

I am ok if scum bus, but they don't bus one to save another.

Titus · Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:05 pm

In post 3201, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3198, Not Chara wrote:above was a response to this post of Titus, by the way.

In post 3193, Titus wrote:
In post 3189, Firebringer wrote:Titus is fine when her scum reads join her on a wagon.
But when a new wagon forms on a scum read of hers that she isn't pushing? She calls foul? Like what is this?
My scumreads (Fire and nC) are the driver and it's a counter to another scum read (McMenno). That's two neon signs I am wrong on Magna.

I am ok if scum bus, but they don't bus one to save another.
and you're wrong here. i wanted to lynch you or Creature above all else. zakk is driving this iteration of the Magna wagon.

i didn't start this counter. i wanted McMenno lynched.
This just barely makes sense to me.
For anyone who won't read this the right way due to being stuck in a death tunnel:
>Their preference is Titus or Creature
>They were on McMenno because there was a wagon
>They are on Magna because there is a wagon/push

They were on me because there's a push wagon too.

I don't really care much at this point though. I hardly cared when there was a McMenno wagon but obvtown wouldn't listen. I just get sick off wwwii and getting proven right later. Rather than beat my head against a wall, we'll just lynch whichever scumread y'all get behind or lynch town.

Titus · Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:39 pm

VOTE: McMenno

This today.

Leonshade, you are not boring lol.

Titus · Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:06 pm

In post 3451, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 3448, Titus wrote: Leonshade, you are not boring lol.
[img]Redacted%20Image[/img]

Yup. Pretty obvious he is. I don't think anyone is boring, but the word choice does matter.

Titus · Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:23 pm

Am I going to have to fight all of day 2 to get a decent wagon again?

Titus · Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:55 pm

In post 3458, Nahdia wrote:
In post 3437, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3436, Nahdia wrote:
In post 3433, Gamma Emerald wrote:Nahdia WTF?
excuse me?
If you are what I think you are you messed up HARD.
You are aware I've already claimed..?

For those of us sleep deprived and bitchy Tituses, please remind the Tituses of your claim.

Titus · Tue Oct 25, 2016 3:25 pm

Why is SlySly so low?

Titus · Tue Oct 25, 2016 3:27 pm

In post 3466, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 3453, Titus wrote:
In post 3451, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 3448, Titus wrote: Leonshade, you are not boring lol.
[img]Redacted%20Image[/img]
Yup. Pretty obvious he is. I don't think anyone is boring, but the word choice does matter.
I mean what did he say that prompted this response?

The whole semantic argument behind calling McMenno a vanilla when he was claiming to be a named townie.

So I wanted to say he's not boring and bring him back to play.

Titus · Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:03 pm

In post 3474, Nahdia wrote:VOTE: SlySly

I'd like to start with this.

Why?

Titus · Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:43 am

No. We are lynching McMenno.

Narna is town.

McMenno is likely lying ascetic. It doesn't make sense for a "mass roleblock" when most abilities for town are useless.

Titus · Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:05 am

We do know Nahdia is a jailkeepeer. She never said the block target today.

The inference is that McMenno knows who Nahdia blocked or that it wasn't Shiro. That's what I find most troubling.

Titus · Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:45 am

In post 3571, SlySly wrote:
In post 3569, Titus wrote:We do know Nahdia is a jailkeepeer. She never said the block target today.

The inference is that McMenno knows who Nahdia blocked or that it wasn't Shiro. That's what I find most troubling.
We don't know anything.

In post 3492, Nahdia wrote:I jailed zakk, in case it wasn't totally clear. Or, tried to. I was blocked or he was strongkilled.

Well then McMenno automatically believes Nahdia's statement as true, which is concerning.

We do know Nahdia is a blocker but alignment unknown.

Titus · Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:46 am

In post 3567, McMenno wrote:what benefit do I have from being ascetic and not claiming it

gogogo

Causing town actions to fail.

Titus · Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:41 am

In post 3579, Nahdia wrote:I'm actually thinking a mass roleblock might be a thing that happened.
In post 3572, Gamma Emerald wrote:@Nahdia: flavor claim
Nice try!!!!!!!! :::;)

No. Someone received fruit. I know everyone being roleblockedis impossible too as something happened to me last night.

Titus · Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:43 am

Which three?

You did Zakk, but the other two are...?

Titus · Wed Oct 26, 2016 6:23 am

In post 3587, Andrius wrote:Uh Titus. I briefly considered voting McMenno with you.
But all of the Ns are voting McMenno.
Excluding Townferatu.

Well you have the N's backwards.

Also your theory about all investigative results being blocked is incorrect. I got one last night (whether it was me or a drunk role that sent its role to me I am hiding).

Leonshade is not a vanilla. Pretty useless in a vanilla.

Titus · Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:45 am

@Andrius, Because Nahdia claiming to be able to roleblock without having said abilities is dumb, regardless of alignment.

Titus · Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:07 pm

In post 3625, Maxous wrote:i roleblocked Shiro last night.

Menno's reaction was still pure scum though

Your vote is in the wrong place then.

@Andius, Nah. Jailkeepers exist as both alignments. The leash would be insane.

@Nahdia my result came in the form of Leonshade is not a townie that is vanilla. Name was specified.

Titus · Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:14 pm

No. You are. Nahdia has claimed jailkeep. We can force Nahdia to jailjeep people. She fails, then we know she was lying eventually. They cannot strongman in perpetuity.

Titus · Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:23 pm

In post 3637, Creature wrote:Jailkeeper + Roleblocker?

Jailkeeper = Doc + Roleblock

Titus · Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:40 am

Hey, take it where you can get it Nos. It's the only way you're mislynching today. McMenno is scum. Narna isn't. There hasn't been a single reason for Narna scum and a litany for McMenno. The only reason McMenno isn't in a pine box is because Narna and Nahdia have been discredited to the point where no one wants to be on a wagon with them. That's a dumb approach for a multitude of reasons.

So, we've reached the point where people have dug in and ceased to talk to each other or even rationally look at evidence. If you have to flip Narnia on Day 2 and then scum McMenno on Day 3, after I die. Go ahead, but don't act like I didn't call it.

Titus · Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:10 am

@McMenno, then do something other than complain ty very much.

Titus · Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:10 am

In post 3742, Nahdia wrote:Master Titus can I please jailkeep Andrius

No. We disagree on reads, but no blocking town. Block scum.

Titus · Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:13 am

In post 3751, McMenno wrote:you seem to be townreading narna for the exact same thing

Deflection and falsehoods are not helpful.

Case Narna, ask questions of voters. You do none of this basic shit as scum. As town, your reads can be horrible, but you try.

Titus · Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:36 am

In post 3753, SlySly wrote:Supporting scum who lynch great town players is not helpful either.

Captain obvious gets a theory medal. Please fill in names and apply the theory to the game state.

Conclusion
Rule
Application
Conclusion

Remember, crac kills scum.

Titus · Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:43 am

Do you think all scum were on the wagon?

Why do you think scum wagoned Magna over McMenno?

Titus · Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:49 am

McMenno is a free pass. Magna draws attention, assuming your argument is true. It isn't though. Scum don't see a wagon on town, decide to dissolve it for another wagon on town.

If you happen to think the Magna wagon was town driven, that naturally means you think all the NS are town, which is inconsistent with voting Narna.

Not Chara is a vote I could compromise on but that's the only one on there I heavily scumread.

Titus · Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:01 am

In post 3762, SlySly wrote:scum are gonna pounce on any L-1 that is town, just like shiro did. if you want to be lynching because the L-1 on McMenno didn't happen, you should be pushing Ank. he agreed to hammer McMenno and didn't when he had the chance.

Deflect more. As much as I think McMenno is scum, I am not hunting based off that assumption when I can lynch McMenno to prove the theory. That's cart before the horse.

Titus · Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:08 am

In post 3768, SlySly wrote:I'm not deflecting at all. Let's see if I'm clear here.

We should be avenging MoI. Lynching McMenno is not avenging MoI, it is appeasing you and your N clan.

If we lynch McMenno and he flips town, I won't be wasting anymore time on this loss.

Avenging MoI requires lynching scum. Your theory that scum made a counter on Magna for McMenno only makes sense if you assume McMenno is scum.

Titus · Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:10 am

Given Zakk and Magna were both town, the t v t nonsense would be there tomorrow, fully allowing for a Mislynch tomorrow if they took McMenno as a mislynch under your theory. The move makes zero sense for scum to dismantle the McMenno wagon unless he is scum.

Titus · Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:14 am

In post 3772, SlySly wrote:I was all for lynching zakk. He played his cop role so well!!

McMenno is a tr of mine. Lynch him. When he flips town, I'll just turn into a contributor like Snarky or massive.

Yeah, and you are doing a hell of a job looking at evidence right now. This whole exchange has me softening my townread on you dramatically. The Magna wagon was town apathy driven, nothing more. The fact that you only want to lynch there suggests you'll only vote town and throw every tantrum in the book to do so. It's annoying and juvenile.

Titus · Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:15 am

In post 3773, McMenno wrote:why was zakk killed, titus

I will answer better later. Solid NKA is impossible. The most logical assumption. is obvtown that would ot change the Gamestate.

Titus · Thu Oct 27, 2016 9:23 am

Andrius is not likely an SK, just stubborn town that refuses to vote obvscum McMenno.

If you want a not chara wagon, make it and I will move.

Titus · Sat Oct 29, 2016 5:46 pm

VLA until Sunday

Titus · Mon Oct 31, 2016 7:12 pm

In post 3890, Firebringer wrote:I am digging deep for motivation.
I hope Titus is town is all I have to say at current moment.

I am. I shall send you my psychic energies whenever possible.

I shall motivate you to keep going. First things first, we flip McMenno.

Titus · Mon Oct 31, 2016 7:13 pm

Snarky, why do you wanna murder me?

I'm too nice to be murdered. Seriously. I'm the nice chick.

Titus · Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:57 am

In post 3973, SnarkySnowman wrote:Yeah this is where to go.

VOTE: Giovanni

SlySly is worth lynching too, but this is bad. And I scumread house ftr

Your reads suck this game.

Titus · Tue Nov 01, 2016 1:37 pm

In post 3999, Maxous wrote:
In post 3997, McMenno wrote:snarky is town bruh
based on...?

i'm really not liking his reads

Intelligence is not required to be town.

Otherwise, the game was majority scum for that Magna wagon.

Titus · Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:00 pm

Hope everyone had a happy halloween.

I'm not in a great mood at the moment, so be wary if asking for special favors and I grumble. It ain't you, it's me.

Titus · Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:25 am

In post 4070, Not Chara wrote:really. how many players think ~5 scum are all piled onto McMenno?

today and yesterday, there have been far too many lynch decisions made based on reads on who is voting a wagon instead of who is most likely scum. there's a reason pre-flip VCA is a terrible idea.
Titus, where are you? if you're town, you should be trying to get McMenno lynched before the wagon dissolves at L-1 again.
players are making decisions based on who their pet scumreads are at this point. on
day two.
where's the reevaluation? i can count the players who appear to be actively hunting instead of just counting scumreads on wagons on one hand.

I basically don't give two shits to talk at this point.

The more I talk, the more people unvote McMenno. He needs to be lynched, therefore, I have to shut up.

I'd rather spend the time with Queen Hatshepsut. It'd be more productive.

Titus · Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:36 pm

@Andrius, I am totally down if you got serious about that.

Then, we listen to whomever is right. If we're both wrong, we lynch consensus reads.

Titus · Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:38 pm

@Almost, Who did you replace? You're giving me scumvibes.

Titus · Sun Nov 06, 2016 6:53 pm

VOTE: Narna

I am a woman of my word. My reads are off. Time to sheep.

Titus · Mon Nov 07, 2016 4:38 am

In post 4266, Maxous wrote:
In post 4238, Narna wrote:Dammit Shiro

I am Gerson - Psychologist

I can investigate a player every night and find out if they have or have had the ability to kill up until that point. So Massive has had no ability to kill as of n2, and therefore he is town.

In post 4262, Shiro wrote:Btw I checked sir cakie last night and I think he is cool. Not 100% solid but I think he is cool.

In post 0, Skullduggery wrote:
01 zakk
(Papyrus, Town Flavor Cop)
Was Killed on Night 1

16 McMenno
(sans, town lazy coroner)
Was Lynched on Day 2
so we have FOUR cops in this game??

Five but I think the vanilla cop is useless given role madness.

I am uncertain as to the claim, and the choice of check.

Titus · Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:25 am

In post 4279, Ankamius wrote:My role includes a killing component.

Can we use it as a dual lynch?
Where are the kills?