Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: mcmenno
Compromise!!!!!!

NO YOU DUMBFUCK
COMPROMISE LYNCHES ARE THE DEVIL

Your right but I am in hell anyways

INFINITE DAYTIME IS NOT THE TIME TO COMPROMISE LYNCH AT ALL

[SirCakez]

Cakez: yes. i can already tell you're not convinced.

look at Creature for me instead. what happened with 2653? i originally thought Creature meant joining you on the Nahdia wagon, but from his next post in conversation with Firebringer, he was asking to lynch you.
and the 'oh, right'. what caught his attention?
he was townreading you before this as well.

Actually it did weaken my townread, because Titus is working incredibly hard to discredit you which is pretty sketchy
I understand why you're scumreading her now so + town points to you and thanks for working with me

Cakez: yes. i can already tell you're not convinced.

look at Creature for me instead. what happened with 2653? i originally thought Creature meant joining you on the Nahdia wagon, but from his next post in conversation with Firebringer, he was asking to lynch you.
and the 'oh, right'. what caught his attention?
he was townreading you before this as well.

Yeah it's bizarre
I'm not really sure what he meant there?

Creature clarify pls

[Titus]

VOTE: mcmenno
Compromise!!!!!!

NO YOU DUMBFUCK
COMPROMISE LYNCHES ARE THE DEVIL

Your right but I am in hell anyways

INFINITE DAYTIME IS NOT THE TIME TO COMPROMISE LYNCH AT ALL

Gamma,

Are you townreading McMenno? If so, why, with specific posts.

[Andrius]

NC, I'm not here to respond to everything you say. You talked to Maxous and zakk specifically and I'm not going to barge in there.
I was more stating 2529 to cut you off in advance rather than berate you for thinking of doing it.

I'm interacting with you. I'm sorry if I'm sucking the fun out of the game but speculate flavor on your own time. We don't need another side discussion that is apart from finding scum like the Wingdings posting.

As you said, this game is bastard. The flavor could be unpredictable. That's why speculation is pointless because this is a bastard game. If I told you something about my role, like Ank or Shiro has RE: Miller/Hated status, that's one thing. But to sit here and guess based on things going on is pointless.
For someone who wants to run off after flavor-moonbeams, you’re scumreading Sly, myself, and Ankamius based largely on claims. Because I see nothing that makes you scumread them for anything other than their role-related stuff, and myself based off my pressure of you and role-related stuff.
NC, your 2535 is another example. You quoted your 2035 for Titus asking her to respond, but your 2035 is more of the same. “I see where town Titus gets that one.” Goes into “it’s the rest of your play that i’m not a fan of”.
You’re sitting on the fence. On a growing number of players. Did you have an opinion on Magna before zakk went against him? Did you have an opinion of me before I pressured you? I don’t know, but you’re sitting firmly on this fence in the middle of this game and its not town at all.
2541 is more of the same. CONSIDERING voting McMenno or Titus, but NC isn’t considering McMenno since he’s leftovers and she has a much stronger scumread on Titus.
WHY WOULD YOU CONSIDER MCMENNO. WHY ARE YOU CONSIDERING MCMENNO WHEN YOURE VOTING TITUS.
Because you’re scum sitting on the fence, not wanting to make a ripple. You don’t want to do anything without being able to hide behind something. A wagon started by others, or a lynch that’s sure to go through so you’ll be there when its safe. You don’t want to start anything but flavor speculation. This is getting old. We’re going around and around with you while you sit on the fence on EVERYONE but me and that’s largely because of 1) FLAVOR that doesn’t matter because BASTARD game and 2) I pressured you first.
Are you people seeing this? The whole I would consider McMenno, but I’m not voting to lynch McMenno because he’s a leftovers townread but I have a MUCH STRONGER scumread on Titus but I would consider McMenno.
Loving the Titus series on 104.

SORRY SKULLDUGGERY. I DIDN’T CLICK THE FIRST SPOILER TAG, I JUST LOOKED AT THE ALIVE PLAYERS. MY APOLOGIES.

Ankamius is town. Its beautiful.
Magna’s 2636 is beautiful.

[Andrius]

Oh wow that looks terrible. There were more spaces, but I had to switch to WORD instead of NOTEPAD since NOTEPAD has issues so now it looks UGLY and HARD TO READ.

SORRY ALL.

[Not Chara]

Cakez: yes. i can already tell you're not convinced.

look at Creature for me instead. what happened with 2653? i originally thought Creature meant joining you on the Nahdia wagon, but from his next post in conversation with Firebringer, he was asking to lynch you.
and the 'oh, right'. what caught his attention?
he was townreading you before this as well.

Actually it did weaken my townread, because Titus is working incredibly hard to discredit you which is pretty sketchy
I understand why you're scumreading her now so + town points to you and thanks for working with me

Cakez: yes. i can already tell you're not convinced.

look at Creature for me instead. what happened with 2653? i originally thought Creature meant joining you on the Nahdia wagon, but from his next post in conversation with Firebringer, he was asking to lynch you.
and the 'oh, right'. what caught his attention?
he was townreading you before this as well.

Yeah it's bizarre
I'm not really sure what he meant there?

Creature clarify pls

oh. hey, look at that. i misread your tone just then, but i'm happy to be proven wrong.
and yes, i'd love an explanation from Creature.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: mcmenno
Compromise!!!!!!

NO YOU DUMBFUCK
COMPROMISE LYNCHES ARE THE DEVIL

Your right but I am in hell anyways

INFINITE DAYTIME IS NOT THE TIME TO COMPROMISE LYNCH AT ALL

Gamma,

Are you townreading McMenno? If so, why, with specific posts.

It's not that I specifically townread him (don't remember what I last said about him, but I do remember saying he was okay for a townbloc) it's
a) I scumread you
b) He shouldn't be compromise lynching

[Andrius]

And yes I am sorry if I am sucking the fun out of the game for anyone.
But the fun is being sucked out for me.

I need to take a break from this for a bit and calm down.
sigh

[Andrius]

The second line is not an excuse for the first line.
It is a statement of my heart.

[Not Chara]

Andrius: again, i'm only flavour speccing for myself. if you'll notice, i didn't mention flavour at all in my reads post. and no one asked, so i won't be elaborating. you aren't sucking the fun out of the game, i'm sorry for accusing you of that.
my reads on Ankamius, Sly, and yourself aren't because of your claims. they're just causes for suspicion that i'm keeping in mind.
any mention of 'i see where town Titus gets that' is simply me explaining the progression of my reads and how they went from town to scum. she's scum. that isn't fencesitting.
i'm not considering McMenno so long as Titus is alive, or she starts being really towny, or she gets confirmed as town. that's it. or McMenno gets guiltied or scumclaims, i suppose.
i'm doing very little flavour speculation. this post is coming from you in the middle of a discussion about actual scumreads, and you keep bringing up my mentions of flavour.
this entire post is just a big misunderstanding or misrep of my stances and my play.

[SlySly]

Hey Skullduggery, would it be too much trouble to list who replaced who on the First Post? For both the newcomers and inattentive readers like me who forgot which of [House, Accountant] Yume replaced. Simply having their names struck through would be great. Thanks!

They are in the spoiler.

[SlySly]

I don’t think that’s the real deadline. I think someone did that, or Skullduggery is just screwing with us. Deadlines are here for a reason and pretending we don’t have one or HIDING THE DEADLINE FROM US is bad for the town since we’ll just come to a deadline lynch and I am NOT willing to settle for one of those.

Someone posited that the deadline was expanded by scum, specifically to derail the L-3 zakk wagon.

Thoughts on that?

I'm not sure

why

it was done, but I'm leaning it being a scum ability.
Hiding the deadline is a great way to drag out a long D1 with no clear wagon into a deadline lynch.

I mean, that theory is possible. It is.
Don't want to spend too much time speculating on it, but the fact that it was anti-town is evident.

Then it makes you ask the question, why do it at that point in time?

zakk promised an L-2 present, perhaps it got delivered at L-3. Or maybe there was fear zakk was going to actually get lynched. My hammer was going to swing on him the second he hit L-1.

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that Gaster ability being anything but anti-town/scum would surprise me greatly. it's scum whether it had to do with zakk or not.
and, Andrius: i feel like you ignored the rest of my post, there. it's like you saw the word 'flavour' and jumped on it to the expense of anything else i've said.

Gamma: then it should be obvious, that i did not notice your crumb. you're also a major townread. Sly, Andrius, and Ankamius are not. well, Sly is a minor townread.

If that was your ability, and you were scum, under what conditions do you think you would use it?

In a bastard theme game, when either the godfather or the cult leader is in true danger of being lynched.

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Since he hopped on the McMenno wagon.

VOTE: Leonshade

Anyone? Please?

Leonshade just picked up some town points.

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Fuck I don't like either of the two leading wagons very much. I wish the Nahdia or Narna wagons would reform.

Either of these wagons gets my hammer shimmering vibrantly.

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Without using the names Pepto or Giga, how am I scummier than Nahdia? An inquiring me wants to know.

Scum response - "You can't suspect me for my predecessors whose play was pretty blatant ... I've got a replacement halo and everything"

^

[Skullduggery]

Day 1, Vote Count #27

Current Vote Count:

(0)

zakk

(0)

SirCakez

(0)

Yume

(0)

Maxous

(0)

Creature

(0)

PeregrineV

(4)

Titus -- Not Chara, SnarkySnowman, zakk, Gamma Emerald

(0)

Shiro

(1)

MagnaofIllusion -- Narna

(0)

Nosferatu

(4)

Nahdia -- MagnaofIllusion, SirCakez, Yume, Ankamius

(0)

Firebringer

(0)

Not Chara

(0)

Ankamius

(0)

SlySly

(6)

McMenno -- Maxous, Titus, massive, Leonshade, Creature, Firebringer

(0)

SnarkySnowman

(2)

Narna -- McMenno, PeregrineV

(1)

Gamma Emerald -- Nosferatu

(1)

Leonshade -- Nahdia

(0)

Andrius

(0)

massive

Not Voting:

Shiro, SlySly, Andrius

With 22 votes available, it takes 12 votes to hammer.

Day 1 will end...eventually.
Countdown: 362469 days, 21 hours, 27 minutes

[SlySly]

Titus. McMenno is town.

[Titus]

Titus. McMenno is town.

Based on what?

[SlySly]

Titus. McMenno is town.

Based on what?

His reads and the scum that have jumped on and off his wagon.

[SlySly]

And, of course, his pleasant townie demeanor.

[Not Chara]

Creature stopped posting just after i asked what was up with him.

[Not Chara]

well, whatever. we'll see what happens when he gets back and responds.

[Titus]

Titus. McMenno is town.

Based on what?

His reads and the scum that have jumped on and off his wagon.

I haven't seen one decent read or question. And preflip associations are bad.

Show me where his reads are good.

[SlySly]

Titus. McMenno is town.

Based on what?

His reads and the scum that have jumped on and off his wagon.

I haven't seen one decent read or question. And preflip associations are bad.

Show me where his reads are good.

Everyone I've thought is scum or scummy, he's got a thought about them leading him to the same conclusions I've drawn. And a few town reads I have, he's expressed similar feelings. All matches my gut. Town.

folks, I'm not reading pepto's replace out one way or another but he's scum independently

I'm all ear for a nahdia lynch

hey, Peregrine, please continue to be town. thank you.
my magna vote was ignored. i'm crying. come on, zakk, Snarky isn't a fun wagon.

that's because moi is a bad wagon

cakez just solidified my town read on his slot



yall i'm forming a townbloc, PM me if u want in!!! (jk, dont PM me)


zakk
gamma
house
cakez
nahdia
slysly
mcmenno

i wanna know the opinions of all 6 of u listed above, on all 6 of the rest, including me. please post that as soon as you read this.

i want to create a town block which will conversate together and hopefully vote together without the bullshit of trying to figure out who is scum


if anyone else is a good bet for this group, feel free to suggest them, along with reasons why (and linked posts. this is important)

if you feel anyone should NOT be in this group, please say why you think they should be removed (links help here too but it's more important above)



thank you all.

i look forward to working together with you.

yourself and nahdia are questionable I'm warming up to gamma and cakez slysly and house are town

my bloc is everyone who's voting narna

I'm down for creature town

join the narna wagon

[SlySly]

And preflip associations are bad.

You asked, good or bad, this was part of the equation when I iso'd.

[SlySly]

You gotta blame it on something!

[Nosferatu]

Nosferatu has a single post referencing Creature's signature and not much else. how does that make you want them lynched?

Where did he read Creature's signature? If he read that, then he had to have read more.

i don't know. what does this mean? Creature posted on the latest page where Nosferatu made their vote.
i just don't know how you're getting alignment indicative info here.

Page 13. Where House, Giga, Gamma, Slysly, Creature, SirCakez, and Pepto all also posted above Nos.

Creature was not the pagetop, nor the most recent post before his. So to read Creature signature, he had to have read.

I feel like I have to address this now,

because PV is

absolutely right

. Creature was

not

on page 13 as of my post.

So the question is,

how did I see creature's sig

? Was it in a neighborhood? Was it in scum daychat? Or,

and hear me out on this one, its got a bit of moon logic and its kinda out there, but maybe,

just maybe

...

post 9 on the page 1.

Real critical thinking here guys

[Narna]

NC, when I said no one would vote mcmenno with Nahdia and I, I meant with us on the wagon. These two votes feel more like because of Titus than us, but the point still stands. Mcmenno is getting votes now that we have left the wagon.

sorry, i'm blanking on what you're responding to.

uhh here. It was delayed because phoneposting at work is a bitch

My shifting Titus read is kind of the same thing I'm on mcmenno for. They both have pretty much tunneled weak early reads for 100 pages. The bus thing stems from me feeling like this (mcmenno) lynch will not go through with Nahdia and I, and an assumption that Titus would also recognize this.

i think McMenno has a better chance of going through than either you or Nahdia.
i don't like to look at bussing too much on day 1, with no flips. looking at them independently, which do you think is more likely scum?

just checked up on McMenno's voting history. he's still on your slot, and hasn't changed votes since. i didn't realize that until now.
but i don't have the knowledge about McMenno that i do about Titus. so he feels vaguely... 'eh', whereas Titus just feels very bad.

pedit: McMenno, say Narna isn't happening today. who would you lynch instead.

and if I didn't answer the second part, mcmenno I gesso