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There are no lies in pm's davesazIn post 3784, davesaz wrote:
What color did the mod use to confirm Vecna?In post 1, Frozen Angel wrote: 1. I guarantee that whenever I useas my color, there is no lie in that sentence. There are no lies in game opening posts or pm's.Blue Violet (#8A2BE2)
Redirection is a thing, but im not willing to believe in the most inlikely of chained events.-
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The thing is....Leonshade did go into his nightmare.
So unless he's the emperor doing the killing for the scum faction and he got them through those means...
At any rate, I think were fine to lynch Mcmenno now.
If Mcmenno has a flip that can save someone from Suzaku's attack take a strong good look at Yume.
If Mcmenno has a redirect ability, thread carefully and think what it can mean.
If McMenno doesnt flip as V.V Priority-hang Thinkbig tomorrow (this seems extremely unlikely to me though)
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Barring all these events, hang davesaz tomorrow.
If Davesaz flips emperor and the game isnt over, hang Thinkbig the day after. Especially if Ohgi was V.V.s fakeclaim.
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As for culted; He's most likely town, but has a small chance to be a very well playing scum. His flavour could also make sense as scum, but he claimed his flavour to me in our PT rather early in the game. His claimed flavour and abilities match perfectly.
He's the knight of 1 btw. If the game isnt over after lynching the emperor, VV and potentially thinkbig, he should probably be the 4th lynch (sorry culted). But this is probably too far ahead for me to speculate.-
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My full Role-claim results for full disclosure:
Night 1: Target Malpascp. Malpas was in his knightmare, so It only showed me the results of his raged ability and the ability to destroy Knightmares and the extra side effect that im not going to spoil.
Night 2: Target Davesaz. Showed that davesaz ONLY had a normal Noble ability. Nothing else, and certainly no roleblock for killing abilities as he's claiming (this is probably in his fake-claim since it would make sense for euphy to have it)
Night 3: Target Culted. Showed that he wasnt lying to me in our PT. He made the noble hood and made painbringer and KeyRB nobles. He's a noble, and He watches the person he's loyal to.
Night 4: Target McMenno. Showed that he has one ability called IMMORTAL. He cannot die at night.
Notice that my rolecop doesnt show which knightmares someone has or their geass abilities.-
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List of claims/flips:
1. BTD6_maker - Lloyd, weird robot builder dude
2. malpascp - Kallen
3. davesaz - (fakeclaimed as) Euphemia li britannia - suspected to be Charles the emperor
4. Crystalline Dagger (Gamma Emerald + Secret Agent Jin) - Died as ssbm,s flavour - Marianne vi britannia
5. McMenno - Claimed ohgi, likely to flip as V.V. li Britannia
6. Reasonably Rational - Died as Cornelia
7. Aristophanes - Died as Rolo
8. ThinkBig - Too scummy to claim properly? Claimed Ohgi
9. ssbm_Kyouko - Liked chemistry too much and had an oopsy
10. Not Chara AlpacaAlpaca - Nunnally
11. DiamondSentinel - Rakshata
12. keyXrb (keyenpeydee + rb) - Lelouch
13. Alisae - Suzaku
14. Creature - Orange boy Gottfried
15. culted - Prod dodger extreme Knight of 1
16. PainBringer - Milly A.
17. Vecna - C.C.
18. randomidget. Spygirl
19. Yume - Schneizel claimed (or MAYBE emperor charles if its not Davesaz)
20. KainTepes - Mindreader boy
The weird thing about all of this is....It makes little sense for spy-girl to be a character if Ohgi isnt really in the game.-
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What replacement request?In post 3617, ThinkBig wrote:
For the record, I have been wanting to join this game for a while and saw an opportunity in the replacement request and took it. I replace in to most of the games that I play and check the replacement request thread quite often. My replacement should not be considered AI and is probably not part of the bastard mechanics.In post 3607, BTD6_maker wrote:I doubt the rapid replacement was bastard. ThinkBig may have been in a replacement queue for this game.
Will be back later tonight.
I went to the queue and there was no such thing. You werent even signed up in the code geass thread as a replacement.
How did you know that a replacement was needed? Where did they get you from?
This shit is really feeding into my suspicious nature.-
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How do you feel about this situation creature. If Mcmenno was scum he would use his fake-claim to claim surely.
But now Thinkbig is directly CC'ing MCmenno's claim.
What do you make of this?
Do you buy his claim that he has a one-shot watcher and a one-shot jailkeeper ability?
Because he conveniently decided to leave out the details about the Knightmare that he has.-
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And those two one-shot abilities do not fit within this setup, or with his flavour claim at all.
The only thing holding me back in pushing everyone to lynch him might be that he is put under a Geass by the emperor, that mightve erased his memory and given him new memories (this happened in the show to lelouch as well).-
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Youre right, I just spotted it. Still makes me wonder about the reasons, but I guess I wont look into that too much.In post 3810, Yume wrote:Actually, there is nothing suspicious about that. There was a post replacing Leon in replacement queue, I've seen it. I can give you a post number or link if you don't believe me.
Im rather convinced at any rate now that Thinkbig is either scum or under the influence of a Geass from the emperor.
If his next post doesnt come clean and satisfy me, were lynching him today.-
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Memory Wipe testing:
Thinkbig:
Do you remember saying any of this Thinkbig? Does that sound like something you would ever say?In post 3285, Leonshade wrote:I agree with Vecna's PoE, and I'm inclined to take malpa andmaybedavesaz off the list too, so scum is somewhere in
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Do you remember trying to lynch this guy pretending to be Prince Schneizl? Were you present there? How did you feel when he made such a dastardly escape and avoided our mob?
Do you remember being in love with Aristophanes/Rolo Lamperouge? Do you remember how you felt when he was murdered?
Does me asking you all these questions make you confused? Do you remember these things or did they never happen?-
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Scum might hammer, so yes, let me have a little more time and lets wait for the response from Thinkbig.In post 3819, Creature wrote:Is there any harm if I vote rn?-
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I know, but theres 3 possible scenarios here, one not being the way more obvious choice than the others, sadly
And one of the three options could instantly loose us the game here since we have no real way to confirm how much scum are still alive.
I have no problem waiting a little bit more to question Thinkbig on these matters.-
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You just got yourself a major scumread as wellIn post 3826, BTD6_maker wrote:VOTE: McMenno
I am convinced now that McMenno is VV. Depending on the flip I support the plan of lynching either ThinkBig or Davesaz.-
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If youre talking about lloyd, im not sure if he's confscum or just town not reading my requests to wait with hammering.In post 3837, Creature wrote:Good, we have confscum.
But yeah, menno is pretty damn scummy - but he does this shit as town as well.-
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Im actually kind of happy that you also have an unknown passive, since it makes Yume's story about his roleclaim a lot more likely to be true. I dont know if my rolecop would reveal your abilityIn post 3842, Randomnamechange wrote:UNVOTE:
vecna i agree with what you are saying.
@my role being weird, i feel kind of VTish here. like FA needed a weaker role to put in but still wanted it to have abilities.-
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Any time now ThinkBig.In post 3820, Vecna wrote:Memory Wipe testing:
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Do you remember saying any of this Thinkbig? Does that sound like something you would ever say?In post 3285, Leonshade wrote:I agree with Vecna's PoE, and I'm inclined to take malpa andmaybedavesaz off the list too, so scum is somewhere in
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Do you remember trying to lynch this guy pretending to be Prince Schneizl? Were you present there? How did you feel when he made such a dastardly escape and avoided our mob?
Do you remember being in love with Aristophanes/Rolo Lamperouge? Do you remember how you felt when he was murdered?
Does me asking you all these questions make you confused? Do you remember these things or did they never happen?
Full claim, no nonsense, with the real flavourclaim, and with full ability names please, so we can hammer here.-
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yep, thats what were trying to figure out here.In post 3853, malpascp wrote:I've only been able to come here on my phone, tomorrow I'll reread all of this
Also there's a chance Geass forces someone to fake claim
The person not being present doesnt help though.-
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You are if theyre in their knightmares, stop pretending like youre notIn post 3868, malpascp wrote:I destroy Knightmares m8, not a vig-
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Its ok, its not like scum can kill me anyway. Immortal witch and all.In post 3872, culted wrote:
YeaIn post 3869, davesaz wrote:Should we just go ahead and (try to) flip McMenno? *The parenthetical (try to) in reference to nothing seems a sure thing in this game.
You all need to work on your sense of adventure.
I mean unless we're waiting on a claim from thinkbig but I'm not sure I really need one anymore we pretty much gotta remove him one way or another.
What's dumb about all of this is that vecna should really have waited a day until after we lynched menno to do this massclaim stuff and just had me out his results again but ALAS
Id be very surprised if they figure out the mechanics on how to get rid of me.-
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My rolecop showed no abilities that protect him from a lynch. The reason the lynch didnt go thrrough before is because menno is still in the safe-zone so he cannot hammer himself.In post 3874, Creature wrote:Sorta hope we don't fail to lynch again, being unable to lynch scum is a new level of bastardry.-
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@Thinkbig; ^In post 3820, Vecna wrote:Memory Wipe testing:
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Do you remember saying any of this Thinkbig? Does that sound like something you would ever say?In post 3285, Leonshade wrote:I agree with Vecna's PoE, and I'm inclined to take malpa andmaybedavesaz off the list too, so scum is somewhere in
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Do you remember trying to lynch this guy pretending to be Prince Schneizl? Were you present there? How did you feel when he made such a dastardly escape and avoided our mob?
Do you remember being in love with Aristophanes/Rolo Lamperouge? Do you remember how you felt when he was murdered?
Does me asking you all these questions make you confused? Do you remember these things or did they never happen?-
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Thinkbig has posted at least a 100 times in other topics while were waiting for him.
Emperor Geass is more and more likely, but why would the emperor have a geass that totally restricts him from answering any of this.
The only other reason I can see why he just lets himself get replaced again is because he hopes this will go away and we hammer town McMenno while there's still 4 scum left so we insta loose.
This blows.-
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Alright this little hold-up gave me the required time to completely finish watching the show.
Can I please have Leonshade back now to flavour-theorize? no? damnit.
Anyways.....
CULTED is BISMARCK. Ive known this for quite some time. In the show he is loyal to Marianne and the Emperor to the very very end, right untill Suzaku destroys his ass. He did claim in our PT with that, and he truthfully revealed all his abilities to me. Now the problem is, did he do that because he knew early that I was a rolecop? Or did he just do that because he's a freedom alligned person that got flavour-fitted really weirdly into the setup.
After watching the show, I feel BISMARCK is the odd one out in this setup. ALL other characters have much much larger roles, and even characters with a larger role are left out or used as fake-claims.
Why introduce this character into the setup then? The only reason I can think of is because a: his abilities in the show just fit well here. or b: because V.V. is not actually on the side of Charles and Marianne, and the C+M team needed a boost. Maybe V.V. isnt teamed up with the emperor and Marianne at all. He probably is, but it might not be the case. After all, he murdered marianne. He broke his vow and lied to charles repeatedly. It did seem that he was working on the ragnarok goal with charles untill the end though to rid the world of lies.
Another weird part is that Culted has not shown a Knightmare once. Rather confusing that Bismarck doesnt have a Knightmare if you ask me, but I guess his character needed balancing.
Purely based on flavour/setup spec, I cannot see how Bismarck is not scum together with Charles and Marianne. Fighting against them with freedom makes NO sense.
He also has an ability called <THE KINGS GUARD>. The king ofcourse being Charles.
All in all, it just makes no sense to me whatsoever to include this character as a town power alligned with freedom.
Maybe he's just included because the flavour allows for him to have cool abilities, totally possible.
After all, V.V. isnt noble either, which is pretty strange. But then again, a lot of people arent nobles in this setup that are in the show. This matches I guess with him being the kings guard, if he wants to protect the king, he has to be noble to charles. He's not there to protect V.V.
The only thing that irches me is......if he's sided with DAVESAZ, why didnt he tell him that I have a role-cop investigation on his slot and that he SHOULDNT LIE?.-
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Schneizel is a pretty evil prick on the show as well in the end. He keeps claiming he does it to realize world peace...but being able to massacre so many people with FLEYA's the way he does, and desiring to use his DAMOCLES to hold the world hostage.....meh.
Too many potential scum in this setup, flavourwise.
Town vigs mightve shot a bunch of town, but seeing how we havent had a single mislynch yet.....Unless theres some weird multiball thing going on, at least some of these slots have had to be cast as freedom. Schneizel still makes more sense to be freedom than Bismarck imo.-
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Anyways, theres nothing to properly solve this setup as freedom further than this it seems when all potential scum are lurking as is happening in this game, or are getting replaced left and right (preferring to get replaced over answering questions even.....)
Time to just trust on lynching the people caught in lies, and that are doing nothing to solve this thing. If ive been redirected its out of my control.
Waiting for another replacement to catch up on 156 pages...yeah.-
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Alright we'll carry out the original plan then.
Lynch order:
McMenno ----> If he flips as anything else but V.V. lynch Leon/thinkbig/replacement tomorrow instead of Davesaz and keep your geass blocker on Davesaz
Davesaz -----> If he flips as anything else but the emperor id be thoroughly surprised. Schneizel fakeclaim would be very surprising
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Im just really hoping we dont get endgamed here, but that would mean that Marianne somehow was town as well, or that the original scumteam was 5 people, which I dont see happening.
If Mcmenno doesnt flip as V.V its imperative that MalpasCP attempts to kill Leonshade/Thinkbig/replacement tonight or at least destroy their Knightmare. Please dont do that if McMenno flips as V.V.
If CULTED goes into a knightmare all of a sudden tonight, its fine as well to destroy it. He wont die since im protecting him.
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Sup davesaz, cant kill stuff with that Geass block on you?
VOTE: Davesaz
It appears ThinkBig is locked up in CC's realm/ragnarok or whatever.
States he's out of reach for my role-cop.
So either that.......or Culted used his geass to block my ability completely.
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