Micro 231: Mismatching Flavor Mafia (Game Over!)

[Guyett]

/confirm

[Guyett]

VOTE: lucky

[Guyett]

They are a 3 person hydra

[Guyett]

Any reason?

[Guyett]

I have had a busy weekend. I do not like your attitude
VOTE: brian

That is L-1

[Guyett]

I don't see it as super scummy to want my only scum read so far to claim. It is soon though, you're right. I'll wait patiently, and let himself prove himself scum to everyone else too.

I'll claim when I reach L-1 and someone claims intent to hammer.

you're L-1 now, just wait for the intent

Question Time for Everybody:
What do you think of the 1v1? How about the reactions? Motivations?
What are your thoughts on the gamble? Do you think it benefits the town? Why or why not? What about the reactions? Motivations?
If the town decides to go through with the gamble and the lynched person flips town, would you hold your word and lynch the other slot, no questions asked?
Any other concerns? Questions? Thoughts?

What do you think of the 1v1?

- I don't particularly care, I think its a very stupid thing to do on day 1. There are too many random elements involved here. D2 is much better for this kind of messing as people will have better developed reads on people.

How about the reactions?

- I prefer shiny's reactions. you are just spamming the thread with fluff. Are you sure Saki isn't in there somewhere?

Motivations?

- I don't see many town reasons for going in on a 1v1 this early in the game. reads change in this embryonic stage and you now have shiny as town in your reads.... feeling stupid now?

What are your thoughts on the gamble?

- really really fucking stupid. you both could be town and it just fucks with my wincon if you both are town having a big dick comp that results in 2 mislynches and 2 potential dead townies from the night kill.

Do you think it benefits the town?

- No, the only way it helps town is if you are scum dicking around playing with a stupid gambit.

Why or why not? What about the reactions? Motivations?

- I'm just repeating myself now...

If the town decides to go through with the gamble and the lynched person flips town, would you hold your word and lynch the other slot, no questions asked?

I haven't given my word regarding this 1v1 as it is really fucking stupid. I will lynch someone if they are being scummy not because they got into this 1v1 mess

Any other concerns? Questions? Thoughts?

- not really other than stop spamming the thread with this shite

#rantover

[Guyett]

UNVOTE:

You are too reckless to be scum.

[Guyett]

the unvote was a product of some serious thinking and both my gut and the being reckless say he is town... however I don't like the way he is trying so hard to be town and I really don't like that gambit. I need more time to think as we still have plenty of time left in the day to decide if he is a good lynch.

[Guyett]

yes, that would relate to the trying so hard to be town reason.

[Guyett]

no I didn't sorry... but it wasn't an after thought.

[Guyett]

Get off his wagon. There are better places for your vote

[Guyett]

I thought he was a hydra

[Guyett]

Any reason?

[Guyett]

Pressure? Gut read? For the lawls? Who knows...

Poor answer

VOTE: lucky

FoS: Beast

[Guyett]

he what? please do give reasons for this

[Guyett]

Any reason?

Beetlejuice beetlejuice beetlejuice. Why were you following along without talking about anything that happened?

I'm sure I've explained this already. I had RL stuff. I was at my post grad supervisors BBQ on Friday, a beer fest on Saturday and in work on Sunday. other games were running into deadlines so this game went on the backburner.

[Guyett]

v

I have had a busy weekend. I do not like your attitude
VOTE: brian

That is L-1

Was this a policy lynch, or were you reading him as scum at the time? If you were reading him as scum, why?

At the time yes I did think he was scum, however after doing my response to his questions, reading his reaction and further refection I came to the conclusion he is actually likely town, hence the unvote

however I don't like the way he is trying so hard to be town

Sometimes people don't try hard to be town; they just are that town. Why do you say that he is just trying hard to be town?

It is a tactic I have seen in other games. Why would you want to put yourself out there as mega town so early in the game? you're just setting yourself up for a likely NK imo.

Pressure? Gut read? For the lawls? Who knows...

Poor answer

VOTE: lucky

FoS: Beast

Why are you voting lucky and why do you suspect Beast?

two reasons;
-one or both of them is likely scum exploiting the Brian wagon
-Lucky has done very little in the game from a town perspective. ISO him... lots of fluff. role fishing. the 180 between 238 and 248

bolded is mine

[Guyett]

Oh he certainly isn't the towniest person here.
I realise there is a fine line between being too towny to be town and too reckless to be scum. In my mind it makes sense.
@shiney because your responses to him seemed logical and protown. 172 is so town imo

[Guyett]

< would like charizard and Guyett pl'd if possible

Policy lynching on day 1? Really? how does this help town?

[Guyett]

Why did you choose Sakura to look at first with regard to past games? Curious choice

You should already know the answer Bert, but I can't say the reason why.

Hint: Sakura wasn't the reason I was reading that game. She just happened to be in it.

Please explain this Brian

[Guyett]

Lucky can wait until tomorrow. Viera has done NOTHING protown at all
31 flavour claim for the lolz
32 hydra head hunting is not relevant
39, 51, 54 and 56 all fluff
255 buddying lucky, not reason for vote at all.
267 and 269 requesting policy lynches for the laugh on day 1 is so super scummy

VOTE: Viera

[Guyett]

@lucky
Yes.


Killing off big liabilities to town like Guyett isn't a bad start for us.

So you would kill off town as I am a "liability to town"... how is this going to help town in the long run?

Note the use of the word kill rather than the word lynch.

[Guyett]

Shiney what do you make of other players so far?

[Guyett]

It'll move faster if I join in. Whats the deal with the cabd vote? I just don't see it... certainly not as scummiset

[Guyett]

That's 3 of us on now asking about it.
Sure he's avoiding this game like hell but that can't just be it

[Guyett]

@mono VA for sure imo

[Guyett]

Town

Me
Brian
Shiny

Null - Town

Mono
beastcharizard

Null

Cabd
Bert

Null - scum

Lucky

scum

Viera Assassin

[Guyett]

Actually you are right about that Cabd townread of VA.. Lash him down to null-scum

[Guyett]

I think he looks concerned for his image

[Guyett]

Eh I'm on mobile too lucky.
Both games are etl horrific camping and maestro greatest idea. Both links on my wiki

[Guyett]

Vote Cabd and have my undying devotion is what I'm trying to say.

Let me think about that for a moment... <3

VOTE: Cabd

Why are you sheeping a person you voted for just a few posts ago?

[Guyett]

Cabd is scum.

Lol

VOTE: Cabd

Explain please

[Guyett]

Is that your reason for voting for him?
It isn't Mono's reason anyway.
Bert is sheeping someone he has a scum read of for some reason and I have no idea what VA is doing with that vote

[Guyett]

Well I might as well state my intent to hammer Cabd.
He is in my top 3 scum pile so I have no problem dropping the hammer.
Claim please Cabd

[Guyett]

Eh yeah... He is avoiding this game despite being active in other ones is bad but inactivity from him is not a scum tell.
What I find worse is him giving Viera a town read on 271... look at Viera's posts up to there!!!

Lucky can wait until tomorrow. Viera has done NOTHING protown at all
31 flavour claim for the lolz
32 hydra head hunting is not relevant
39, 51, 54 and 56 all fluff
255 buddying lucky, not reason for vote at all.
267 and 269 requesting policy lynches for the laugh on day 1 is so super scummy

VOTE: Viera

HOW DOES THAT LOOK PRO TOWN!!!

[Guyett]

What is your opinion on Cabd? any reads?

[Guyett]

VA and Lucky.
I wasn't going to hammer without him posting...

[Guyett]

It does slightly but Cabd could well be being bussed

[Guyett]

What do you make of Berts vote on Cabd?

[Guyett]

Even on his scum reads?

[Guyett]

by that I mean he sheeps his scum reads

[Guyett]

Shiney i have a question for you.
In your opinion Is it possible to like a wagon on someone and at the same time not like some of the people on the wagon?

[Guyett]

he is in our top 3 too. that doesnt mean he has to go before posting anything

who are the other two in your top 3?

R~

Who else is in your top 3?

[Guyett]

ok... thats good haha.
Are they also for similar reasons to those that I gave?

[Guyett]

Explain this please.

Vote: Lucky2u

Asking me to explain while voting me is kind of hostile Bert.

unvote

Fine.

what is this shit? Bert your vote is being thrown around so much it is losing all its value. Also why unvote? Why worry about being too hostile?

[Guyett]

But to answer you... I played as scum with Guyett and I can't see him making a move like that, it seems like something a newb scum would do. I might be giving him too much credit.

What was wrong with the move exactly?

Why are you citing examples from that game... Mono has cited another scum game of mine that was very different to that game. I don't see how you can use a meta argument for me being scum as I have so few scum games on here.

[Guyett]

Ah right I misread it haha

[Guyett]

But you shouldn't say I am not scum based on that one game lucky

[Guyett]

See what?

[Guyett]

But why did you wait to bring that up? You were around when i posted that... Why wait for va to start your argument

[Guyett]

Yeah that was for lucky

[Guyett]

Your reaction to 542... You waited until va posted about it to address it

[Guyett]

It was posted a minute after you posted and you next posted an hour later... you could have reacted but you let VA argue your 'case'

[Guyett]

have you not read the thread?

Lucky
VA
Cabd

[Guyett]

Yeah....

I'm kinda paranoid about Guyett right now

Vote: Guyett

Guyett, who are your scumreads?

Please give reasons for why I am scum

[Guyett]

That's nice lucky

I am happy with anyone of cabd, Va and lucky getting rope.
My vote is on VA at the moment but consider me available to move onto any of the wagons.

[Guyett]

Lucky why did you wait until now to vote for me if you were so unhappy with that post of mine

VOTE: lucky
Obv scum needs rope

[Guyett]

Join us on the Lucky wagon, Va or Cabd can go tomorrow

[Guyett]

Bert Iso Lucky and tell me if you see anything pro town

[Guyett]

I'm around to move my vote to cabd if needed

[Guyett]

saki's vote on cabd is unsettling me,
There is a few of you that I believe are town, I don't 100% trust you as that'd be silly but I'd be confident enough that you are town. (Shiney, Mono, brian mainly, Bert and Beast to a lesser extent)
What is your opinion on just moving to a Saki lynch and see where that takes us? We can move to Cabd or lucky, or even someone else if they don't seem like viable wagons depending on Saki's flip, on D2.
I think of our top 3 in the lynchpool he is the scummiest.

[Guyett]

Why is saki least likely to be scum again? Doesn't town Saki just spam the thread and do the opposite of lurk?

[Guyett]

Saki wanted a policy lynch on D1, he's lurking very hard and was buddying lucky earlier. He has also avoided lucky lately while voting for cabd twice. My gut is screaming at me saying he is scum

[Guyett]

probably for the best....

[Guyett]

You should move your vote then

[Guyett]

that was @beast

[Guyett]

atta boy

[Guyett]

Also flavour has nothing to do with alignment here

[Guyett]

Hammer away imo

[Guyett]

Who are your top 3 scum picks?

[Guyett]

you can't pick me twice

[Guyett]

Someone just put him out of his misery

[Guyett]

not going to get your scum buddy to kill me?

[Guyett]

VOTE: Viera
Next scummiest after lucky imo

[Guyett]

I really really don't like 689
Beast I am disappoint in you
I thought you were town

[Guyett]

I don't know what to make of him due to his meta change.
However I don't like the lurking at all and when he does post they have been terrible.

[Guyett]

Why is Bert scum ~L?

What is your opinion in Beast?

[Guyett]

Wanna give a reason for why I am scummiest?

[Guyett]

Beast please

[Guyett]

I will but i want to hammer.... I want to use a gif

[Guyett]

I have a terrible hangover and I bought GTA 5 so I'm quite distracted.
I am sure Saki is scum.. cabds replacement and beast could be scum too

[Guyett]

Beast has active lurked through D1 and his D2 play has been terrible so he could well be scum
Morph hasn't been too bad so my read on that slot has softened especially when compared to beast's play.
Saki is still top of my scum pile

[Guyett]

Yes I am aware I haven't been as active as I would have liked. However my reads are quite similar to what they were yesterday so I don't really want to repeat myself. Also there is no point in trying to pressure saki into answering questions as he will just ignore them

[Guyett]

you vote me because of the awful beast vote?

VOTE: Beast

[Guyett]

ok lol
Remember a mislynch today will send town to either mylo or lylo.
I'd advise talking with the other heads soon btw

[Guyett]

Also point out exactly why I'm scummy?

[Guyett]

or rather scummier than Beast and Saki

[Guyett]

I'm at L-1 right?

[Guyett]

Ok forgot VA removed their vote on me.
Are you all in agreement on your saki read?

[Guyett]

not a useless question, answer it please

[Guyett]

Ok then are all 3 of your heads in agreement that I am the most scummy?

[Guyett]

Are you being rude on purpose?

[Guyett]

I have no interest in talking to you if you remain like this.

[Guyett]

VOTE: Guyett
Someone hammer please.
I am a Vanilla townie
I will also not be playing with Shiny again. You are rude and 3 heads is too many to play with.

[Guyett]

Morph - null to scum
Guyett - town as flip will show soon
Brian Skies - town
beastcharizard - scum
Shiny Hydreigon - null to town, probably town but really fucking stupid
Bert - null with a light town read
Viera Assassin - scum fuck. needs rope tomorrow

[Guyett]

any reason for that unvote?
make up your fucking mind.

[Guyett]

VOTE: Viera Assassin

I would prefer that lynch but I'm up for a beast lynch too

[Guyett]

Oh god beast needs rope asap

[Guyett]

Could you explain why I am scum?

[Guyett]

Saki still needs rope asap but I would move over to the beast wagon if we're going for him.

[Guyett]

Brian your read on me is interesting. All your reasons are for recent play that happened after your vote on me. Any d1 reasons as it just looks like you voted for me and then made up a shit case

[Guyett]

Beast not Brian

[Guyett]

Regarding Saki have you any experiences of him tunnelling as town?

[Guyett]

I'm stating intent to hammer Beast. Claim please.

[Guyett]

Can the person who he used his power on come forward?

[Guyett]

Actually Beast I want you to say who you used your power on. I have a feeling I know who you will say you used it on

[Guyett]

I'm calling bullshit
I fucking knew you would say them and they can't back up your story now that they are dead.
VOTE: Beast

[Guyett]

If he flips town I'm really sorry. rush of blood and it seemed like a fake claim.

Saki needs rope tomorrow. cat the next day

[Guyett]

its not a neighbourisor. Basically he would be like an innocent child if the person he talked to was alive... the person wasn't alive so it looked like it could be faked

[Guyett]

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... y_Neighbor

[Guyett]

VOTE: va
.bv scum

[Guyett]

UNVOTE:
I need to think when sober

[Guyett]

Well I am certain Brian is town and I am even more certain I am town.
Bert is probably town too so scum is the cat and saki

[Guyett]

Actually the fact that Saki wasn't quickhammered is proof he is scum. everyone else was online. scum teams of bert, brian or cat could have quickhammered but they didn't so scum can't be 2 from those 3. therefore Saki is scum

[Guyett]

I did... but I know I am town so I immediately ruled that possibility out of the equation

[Guyett]

This is my first Lylo on this site afaik.
Saki is scum, I am 99% sure of that
My vote will go there and I really don't want to move it again.
The fact that he was not quickhammered earlier implies either myself or himself are scum. I know I am town so he has to be scum.

VOTE: Vierra Assassin

[Guyett]

Brian is obv town, Bert less so but I am around 75% sure he is town.
Cat goes tomorrow.

[Guyett]

It might take a while for GiF to do the flip as he is V/La.
Hope I haven't made a terrible mistake with that VA vote

[Guyett]

I have no practice with it. I'm just trusting my gut mainly

[Guyett]

Also I assume we have lynched scum as otherwise we would know by now that we've lynched town and that scum have won.

[Guyett]

If VA flips scum we go into tomorrow still in lylo

[Guyett]

I've already claimed VT.
I agree voting. I will be voting morph tomorrow.

[Guyett]

don't know why the first voting is there, thats a typo

[Guyett]

Shit
gg Bert

[Guyett]

stupid saki being so anti town

[Guyett]

Sorry for hammering you beast

[Guyett]

should have lynched your slot when I had the chance

[Guyett]

I didn't see the pr slip... sorry again