Micro 381 - 999 Mafia (Nonary Game Complete)

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:11 pm

In post 1270, Bins wrote:wait

does that mean its confirmed reck was roleblocked by scum night 1

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:11 pm

this is important pls & thank you

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:12 pm

w-what.

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:17 pm

ccan we massclaimm plsss

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:20 pm

That explains that post.

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:21 pm

CAAAN WEEEE MASSCLAIMMM PLSS??!?!?!

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:21 pm

I'm stuck.

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:22 pm

In post 1305, xRECKONERx wrote:WHY.

Scum are at a disadvantage right now and we can restrict information are you serious

why do you want to massclaim

BECAUSE I OBVIOUSLY HAVE INFORMATION

and like honestly half of us have already

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:22 pm

In post 1307, Parama wrote:bulge is like
literally #2 townread right now can we not

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:23 pm

no i need the others to go first.

like gah i just dhasidsada. i was supposed to type this in the qt but i fucked up.

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:25 pm

Reck --> Conf. Town PM Guy.
Parama --> DV
Gamma --> VT

Bulge --> ??
Akane --> ??

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:25 pm

like

i dont think gamma is scum

if you get my drift or

idk just

fuck i cant like

fake this so

CAN YOU GUYS JUST SAY YOU FREAKING ROLES

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:26 pm

*YOURE

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:27 pm

his didnt give me necessarily townvibes in the qt no but thats not what im talking about :<

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:30 pm

my role is really lame but i think i can yknow confuse the fuck out of everyone i guess?? unless theres 3 scum well then fuck this

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:31 pm

i think we're waiting for something big but its not actually that big

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:35 pm

well im confused

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:36 pm

gammas not a rb

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:38 pm

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:39 pm

fight me

im a vanilla cop

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:40 pm

but yeah parama get reck mad or something

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:42 pm

In post 1350, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 1348, Bins wrote:fight me

im a vanilla cop

as in you check if something is vanilla or not

no im a cop but also a vt

YES I CHECK IF SOMETHING IS VANILLA

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:42 pm

In post 1351, xRECKONERx wrote:are you perhaps aware that this would pick up on vanilla GOON as well or...

yes but you claim you were rb n1

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:43 pm

akane is not vanilla
ofc i didnt invesigate parama

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:43 pm

ive claimed this but yeah

doesnt go through doors

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:49 pm

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:49 pm

that makes a fuckton more sense

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:51 pm

make rooms

vote gamma

acquire currency

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:51 pm

btw gamma in room 4 was making a case on you bussing nm, parama

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:53 pm

NO HE MENTIONED IT

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:53 pm

well basically

gamma: parama makes sense as scum with nm
you: -try to work it out-

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:57 pm

Oh, it wasn't really a case. Like two sentences and Bulge followed it up & he can talk about that.

We didn't talk about much.

I feel like there's scum missing right now as well.

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:02 pm

Akane changes the room numbers for lulz so we can all be in the same room.

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:03 pm

Bracelet*

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:04 pm

I will literally be stuck if Gamma is not scum.

Bins · Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:06 pm

Jackel didn't even mention NM.

Bins · Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:52 am

ssshh I'm practicing my impression of parama

Bins · Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:25 am

ok lets make rooms and lynch gamma because i want to free up a micro game slot cause im in 3

Bins · Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:41 pm

am in too many games

we can do rooms now though

Bins · Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:41 pm

yaay page top

Bins · Fri Sep 12, 2014 6:13 pm

Number 9 can be adde to anything and the digital root remains the same.

[1] - Bins
[2] - Akane Kurashiki
[3] - The Bulge
[5] - Parama
[7] - xRECKONERx
[9] - Gammagooey

Available Doors - [1], [2], [3], [6]

6-vote - Bins, Akane, Parama, Reck

Everything else doesn't work and/or leaves out people with target abilities that only work through doors.

or

Akane uses her magical power and changes a braclet number and we all go through a door.

Bins · Fri Sep 12, 2014 6:21 pm

6-vote - Bins, Akane, Parama, Reck

Bins · Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:43 am

6-vote: Bins, Akane, Parama, Reck, Bulge

Bins · Sat Sep 13, 2014 12:28 pm

If it means anything, I'll paraphrase some stuff Akane said in Night 1's QT. Because she was discussing the possibility of a Grib/NM scumteam w/ Parama, also a Reck/NM scumteam. However, she did have a post where she explained a townread on NM. In response to my read on him, she says that she's paranoid as well because I was saying that I was.

That's pretty much the good stuff.

Bins · Sat Sep 13, 2014 4:34 pm

This is sexist.

Bins · Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:37 pm

The original room doesn't count as a room.

Bins · Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:43 pm

Parama did.

Bins · Sun Sep 14, 2014 12:58 pm

uuurrgh.

Bins · Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:36 pm

you're making me paranoid of everything i believed in

Bins · Mon Sep 15, 2014 4:50 pm

In post 1519, Akane Kurashiki wrote:tl;dr of NM iso for good measure:

Bins is super town via associative tells and I found multiple reasons to think this throughout their two isos. 285 is a door vote putting NM in a room with Jackel and Quil, everyone else elsewhere, said what I thought of door votes earlier. 639 has very light possible bussing of Jackel. 640 made me think Bulge was town. 794 is slight town points to Bulge and Bins (door vote theory). Note that with all these door vote things I'm not counting something that was blatantly sheeping someone else's door vote, just votes the person made on their own. 1196 made me a bit paranoid about Bulge (I also took this opportunity in the iso to say something about how I didn't like Bulge's posts on replace-in) but I didn't think it outweighed some of the points in Bulge's favor (i.e. counterwagon to scum).

I also did an iso on Bins and came to the conclusion that Bins and NM are pretty much 100% not scum together, and an iso on Parama that I got through d1 on and didn't really glean much of anything new from. I have not been not-lazy enough to do an iso on Reck or Bulge.

I don't see why scum-Akane would make this post. .-.

Bins · Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:10 pm

so if the chances of a 3 man scumteam are low then

why dont we lynch someone i mean there probably isnt going to be a nightkill??

i'd perfer gamme tbh, but i do see the points for parama now. however, i can't shake the strong townread i've had of parama the entire game. i don't think akane is scum.

Bins · Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:16 pm

In post 1528, xRECKONERx wrote:Here's what I propose: we lynch Parama and give Bins the night to check Bulge's VT claim. Bulge claimed AFTER Bins, so it'd be weird for him to claim VT, knowing there's a vanilla cop, but it's better safe than sorry. Worst case scenario, we lynch town, then Bins comes back with a report tomorrow and we can sort this out from there. I feel like there's definitely a component we are missing in all of this but I can't put my finger on it... I fully don't believe that the last remaining scum is just a goon who is no killing every night.

Primarily, this is why I don't want to lynch Gamma at this point. I just cannot fathom that Gamma is the last scum as a goon... the only way Gamma is scum is if Bins is lying and is scum with Gamma.

Bins · Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:16 pm

not really against you but more for your lynch

Bins · Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:18 pm

and my "cannot fathom" of gamma being mafia goon is less cannot fathom but like yeah scum would have been underpowered imo i mean trying to think of this from a setup perspective is pretty smart but i dont want to get caught up in that

Bins · Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:21 pm

im looking at the content in our n1 pt and i keep thinking that there was more than akane said but tbh there wasnt HUGE stuff but i mean i think she's town still

Bins · Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:26 pm

no but like

ok im just gonna rant think about this

theres a fucking guy that can confirm his alignment as town and theres no freaking night action role on the enemy team if gamma is scum
and that does boggle my mind because that is horribly unbalanced saying town would also have dv and a person who can switch door numbers

so i do understand the reck/akane team as well

but like what 3 heck guys i kind of want to go into night again and use my action and have reck use his action on someone else and not freaking claim rb because holy shit if he's actually scum and he gets away with "i forgot to submit my action" i am going to be very very very veyr very sad

Bins · Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:26 pm

and then theres the whole freaking confusion about the night action as well like what the hell am i supposed to think about that? and i hate complaining about but like hfsdsadasdsa.

Bins · Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:29 pm

In post 1522, xRECKONERx wrote:She probably wouldn't, it's probably Parama or you. Or The Bulge.

It's actually really just not me, Gamma, or Akane at this point. Will vote and lynch anything else.

like i dont think i could hit the disagree button more to this post

Bins · Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:39 pm

In post 383, Not_Mafia wrote:
vote [Not_Mafia, Quilford, Jackel - 9], [Parama, Reck, yoncé - 7]

In post 487, Not_Mafia wrote:

7-vote: xRECKONERx, Quilford, Not_Mafia
8-vote: Parama, Akane Kurashiki, Bins

In post 794, Not_Mafia wrote:Would prefer this

1-vote: Bins, Quilford, Not_Mafia
5-vote Akane Kurashiki, Parama, xRECKONERx

hmmmhm???

Bins · Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:42 pm

In post 428, Parama wrote:also, because you all suck at plurality and there's exactly one door setup I'm happy with atm

5-vote: Jackel98, Akane Kurashiki, Quilford

6-vote: Not_Mafia, Parama, yoncé

In post 557, Parama wrote:

7-vote: xRECKONERx, Quilford, Not_Mafia

8-vote: Parama, Akane Kurashiki, Bins

In post 793, Parama wrote:
2-vote: Akane Kurashiki, Quilford, Not_Mafia
4-vote: Bins, Parama, xRECKONERx

eh

Bins · Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:43 pm

In post 213, Akane Kurashiki wrote:?

I only see two votes.

And WOW I totally forgot about the special mechanic for a while.

6-Vote: Parama, 34, Akane, Jackel
5-Vote: Bins, Not_Mafia, Quilford, Flames

Not super committed to this by any means but figured I might as well put something down. We'll need to not only figure out who we're lynching in the next few days, but who is going through what doors together...

In post 559, Akane Kurashiki wrote:

7-vote: xRECKONERx, Quilford, Not_Mafia
8-vote: Parama, Akane Kurashiki, Bins

I think that might have been a hammer, Parama. Or I can't count. One of the two.

Bins · Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:44 pm

jackel never really did and like gamma was here when nm was dead

Bins · Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:44 pm

In post 233, Jackel98 wrote:Also:
Vote-6: Bins, Jackel98, Not_Mafia, Grib
Vote-5: Parama, Quilford, Flames, Akane

Bins · Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:45 pm

reckoner was a little bitch about doorvotes

Bins · Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:46 pm

i feel like i should townread him because of that but eh

Bins · Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:47 pm

akane how clearly can you describe the conftown pm from reck anyways :<

Bins · Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:20 pm

actually let's just lynch gamma

Bins · Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:43 pm

guys wat

Bins · Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:57 pm

I'm in bed and tired but

Can we no lynch then
I use my power
Reck uses his power
We turn up in a room minus one or split off again???

Bins · Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:58 pm

I feel like that's a stupid idea for some reason I can't think of because I'm half awake

Bins · Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:59 pm

I am currently townreading: everyone

God bless you all and good night

Bins · Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:07 pm

Because I'm town reading Reck because y'know that fucking night action thing

And I'm townreading you because I've had good reason to this entire game

I'm townreading bulge because he's not scum with NM

I'm townreading Akane because she's been completely genuine this entire game

I'm townreading gamma because I don't understand the posts from a scum perspective as much PLUS he's vanilla but

Bins · Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:08 pm

I think we should lynch Gamma, yeah. And if not I'll rip my hair out and decide.

Bins · Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:09 pm

*and if he's not scum

Bins · Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:18 pm

Dat sig

Bins · Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:18 pm

Dw guys I'd join u but mobile is dum

Bins · Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:53 am

The problem with a Vanilla cop miller is like

Well

Wtf is the good of me then?

The scum team can then figure out ez "oh vanilla cop" and they don't claim vt and claim a pr

Granted that's what nm did but

Bins · Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:32 am

why is there a replacement request for Akane made by akane

Bins · Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:46 am

how I feel:

ok

Bins · Fri Sep 19, 2014 12:49 pm

hiya

cdb do you believe that the thing you got about Reck would confirm him as town?

Bins · Sat Sep 20, 2014 2:32 am

The lack of night kill.

But there was a vengeshot.

Bins · Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:53 am

1 town esper v 1 mafia esper

case solved

Bins · Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:55 am

Reck how many posts did you make in your n1 room?

Bins · Sat Sep 20, 2014 4:00 am

He's not claiming he's a messenger
But part of me thinks he is

Bins · Sat Sep 20, 2014 4:00 am

Like

1) you claim you forgot to submit
2) but first you LIED and said you were roleblocked

Bins · Sat Sep 20, 2014 4:01 am

How many shots are you Reck?

Answer that.

Bins · Sat Sep 20, 2014 4:05 am

I don't even fucking know like people all have PRs that aren't allignment spec. at all.

I wanna say akane's is def more protown tho unless the scum "factional kill" needed something to work with rooms
Bulge is town
And I really wanna say gamma is town now
And Parama has always been a townread of mine

And we get back to
If it wasn't for this dum claim I would have pushed for a Reck lynch

Bins · Sat Sep 20, 2014 4:08 am

Bins · Sat Sep 20, 2014 4:08 am

I also just want to lynch Reck.

Bins · Sat Sep 20, 2014 4:16 am

Ok but we aren't lynching bulge

Bins · Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:38 pm

In post 1836, xRECKONERx wrote:Bins needs to shit or get off the pot. Not voting with less than 24 hours to deadline is fucking absurd.

i want to vote you but i was shut down

Bins · Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:39 pm

reck i just

trying to listen to yourself be so convinced is ridiculous

Bins · Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:40 pm

if gamma was not vanilla would you think he was scum??

Bins · Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:43 pm

im not taking back my claim <.<

man are you always this intense

Bins · Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:47 pm

i feel if one of cdb or parama is scum im missing somtehing obvious in the room eight qt

Bins · Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:56 pm

In post 1869, Parama wrote:Bins you have this problem too and you're here too
can you
do something

im reading the qt and you and akane still look town

Bins · Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:57 pm

we talked about nm a lot so im trying to pick it apart but theres nothing.. bad necessarily? i mean akane posted a semi town case on nm and you made a giant nullcase on nm

Bins · Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:57 pm

like all the responses in the qt just give you a massive townvibe so

Bins · Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:01 pm

i really, really don't think bulge is scum anymore because of quil and bulge w/ nm doesnt make sense to me and i also dont think this is scum bulge

gamma feels really town based on how he's acting and how much content he's giving out. not to mntion i never really had a scum read on jackel. i would lynch gamma, just because i think it's a good diretion to go in. but i mean im not scumreading him. im going to look over cbds points again to see if my mind changes.

reck is just
fuck idk man i wanna say town one moment and scum the next. i just want him gone and i still have no idea how many shots are left in his town conf thing ?? if there are some left then why dont we just let him do that again and if not idk -___________- maybe im just done w/ reck so that's cloudying up my read

Bins · Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:03 pm

In post 1878, Gammagooey wrote:also i still think its kind of weird that if they bothered with cases on N_M that they wound up voting him at the end because of me and N_M being on the same wagon instead of any of that

i was wrong

akane made a case on why nm was prob town with speculation on how he could be scum

parama made an iso play by play thing that had him come out with a nullread

Bins · Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:15 pm

In post 1883, Gammagooey wrote:this might be a dumb question but i can't go check it myself

does her speculation or doubts mesh with how she wound up voting N_M?

she had stated in the qt (along with parama and i agreeing) that we would collectively pressure nm and quilford during that day
and she stated her vote was for pressuring nm

she even said shed be willing and wanting to add pressure to the wagon

pedit - shhh

Bins · Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:16 pm

i just get the most massive townvibes from parama

Bins · Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:31 pm

it's between cbd & gamma

for me

Bins · Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:41 pm

In post 1915, Parama wrote:Bins, why CDB? ._.

basic PoE that's making me mad

Bins · Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:44 pm

The Bulge - i'm using my night action plus townread.
Parama - town.
xRECKONERx - hasdisadas !! ???! <<D< >>>> x.x.x.x. dasdj! can you still use your night action/?? idk!! maybe?!?! maybe not. also decent swingy read that every time i think about it more leans more town then scum and more of a "god pls lemme lynch u because hdsd ad/."

guess who that leaves

Bins · Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:08 am

Hey what did I say

We aren't lynching bulge

Bins · Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:09 am

It's Reck or Gamma then and I'm not trilled with Reck, so

Bins · Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:09 am

;-; I can't believe I just said that

Bins · Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:09 am

VOTE: gamma

Bins · Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:13 am

Bulge is a mislynch

Like 99.9999999% sure on this you just have to trust me and not make me peeved

Bins · Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:15 am

You'll vote gamma to stop a no lynch

I'm not voting bulge

Go ahead but I really do doubt a maf flip
And my night action

And Parama is probably TOWN based on how he's been actnh

Bins · Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:19 am

It's a waste of a lynch and I just like being in a position where I can yell "I told you so."

Trust me, it's not bulge.
It's not me.
It's probably not you.
It's probably not Parama.

Albeit if you want to vote someone I think it town, it'd be Parama that'd is be more ok with lynching. But I still wouldn't be happy with it.

Bins · Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:20 am

In post 1938, ChannelDelibird wrote:And if you really give a shit about what your night action says about Bulge then why are you voting for Gamma, I don't even

Because.
We can lynch Gamma?!

Or at least I thought.

Bins · Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:23 am

Bins · Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:24 am

Just because I verified gamma's claim doesn't mean I wanna necessarily keep him around >.>?

Like really
I've checked you
Parama is confirmable

It's not just Gamma who is confirmed vanilla or not

Bins · Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:25 am

Actually it's an interesting concept

Why would they put a vanilla cop in with two roles that are confirmable not vanilla in game.

Bins · Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:26 am

I know but I do this trust me thing all the time with bulge

Bins · Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:32 am

Because fuck

My only other scumread is RECKONER.

But I will compromise on Parama >.<

Bins · Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:34 am

Everyone just wants bulge not to be lying so it satisfies setup speculation

But fine. I'll live with the not mafia goon theory

Bins · Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:34 am

I'll be available until deadline

Bins · Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:34 am

In post 1955, Parama wrote:goddammit he's doing
the thing
now isn't he.
jesus christ bulge get in here the more you ignore this game the less happy I am about yo

he's at church

Bins · Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:34 am

well, was

he's eating

Bins · Sun Sep 21, 2014 8:54 am

Right, so, Parama or Gamma.

Bins · Sun Sep 21, 2014 11:26 am

In post 1967, Parama wrote:sad that you bought into Reck's setup stuff so easily tho

Bins · Sun Sep 21, 2014 11:32 am

can we lynch reckoner

Bins · Sun Sep 21, 2014 11:33 am

im kidding dont hurt me

but yeah im thinking like

gamma and parama both seem town to me :< and akane and cbd do and i just. dsadsadsadas

Bins · Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:11 pm

In post 1969, xRECKONERx wrote:I actually would prefer CDB over Parama but w/e

i agree with this.

Bins · Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:55 pm

Well, there's no fucking chance of a Gamma lynch now because I don't think Reck will do it and then CDB is sleeping.

Bins · Sun Sep 21, 2014 3:03 pm

In post 1981, Gammagooey wrote:holy shit this game has been just exhausting

i know.

Bins · Sun Sep 21, 2014 3:04 pm

the setup spec really screws with our minds

i'm not scumreading anyone.

Bins · Sun Sep 21, 2014 3:10 pm

well yeah bulge claims if he's going to hammer and we'll change votes

im dont even know what im doorvoting rn so

##unvote

Bins · Sun Sep 21, 2014 3:14 pm

In post 1990, Parama wrote:basically I'm pissy that I'm at L-1 and at threat of lynch because town is apathetic as hell.

we are the opposite of apathetic m8

Bins · Sun Sep 21, 2014 3:19 pm

Does Reck not have more shots?

I swear I have never gotten an answer.

Holy shit like, Reck's role is too OP in this setup (from what we know?).

I think if we lynch Parama, and he flips town, and I get a VT result on Bulge, Reck is def. the next lynch. There almost - yeah, setup spec. - NEEDS to be something there to stop the freaking conftown wand action thing.

Bins · Sun Sep 21, 2014 3:33 pm

1-vote: Bins, The Bulge, CDB

Bins · Wed Sep 24, 2014 12:18 am

He's vanilla.

And I get the whole friendly neighbour thing now.

Thoughts this afternoon.

Also, we aren't lynching Bulge. I guess you could say, that of we do, our chances of losing goes up by... a lot.

Bins · Wed Sep 24, 2014 12:35 am

Fuck. Reck's going to yell at me but.

This + Parama not enlightening us more on the esper...

This looks more like an Esper message than a conftown friendly neighbour message.

Bins · Wed Sep 24, 2014 12:35 am

Also, the fact he had more shots...

Bins · Wed Sep 24, 2014 12:49 am

CDB, you got it too. Do you agree?

Bins · Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:06 am

I plan to make a more serious case about this, but for now I've convinced myself and that's good enough.

1) The reason why it looks more like an Esper vs. a Friendly Neighbour is because it's not modconfirmed. It says that the message was created and sent to me by someone else. And there's another reason, which CDB knows, but I'm probably not allowed to be that specific. Bottom line: The message was not directly from the mod himself.

2) This claim is perfect for an Esper, however, at that time I doubt you knew there was another Esper in the game. This also explains why you were so unwilling to claim the amount of shots you had left.

3) It makes sense why Grib died after Parama knew what his role was. If Grib managed to message the same person Reck did, they would know that the two messages were the exact same in format, confirming Reck as an Esper, not a friendly neighbour.

4) That hammer on NM was brutal. Parama commented on how if NM was to flip scum, it would look bad on Reck. I think that was the bussing that they displayed. Reck knew that was a shit fakeclaim, and it was a terrible flash hammer to follow. Town is not that certian.

If you're town Reck, I'm glad you're getting all this info out of your system now so we have this info to work with after your lynch. You are now efort posting as best you can, especially since all you've been doing all game is yelling at people, I don't believe it. And most of all, I'm definitely not convinced anymore that the last scum has to be vanilla. It makes more sense for my role, because of the greater chance that scum claims VT and I am able to check that.

VOTE: Reckoner
Door vote whenever whataver.

My next choice is actually CDB, believe it or not.

In any case, Reck is DEFINITELY not living to LYLO.

Bins · Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:11 am

In post 2047, ChannelDelibird wrote:Consider the wording of our PMs compared to how Parama explained Grib's role.

Do you understand what you just said here compared to what I said? They killed Grib so that Reck didn't look like an Esper, and nobody would know any better. Parama was scum, I'm not listening to his description of Grib's role.

Albeit, I might be talking complete nonsense and Reck isn't lying. But I'm definitely sure this is the best lynch, because this suspicion I have is immense.

Bins · Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:24 am

In post 2050, ChannelDelibird wrote:Again, given the wording of the PM (and given that, when I specify things like 'standard Friendly Neighbour', I have seen and used non-standard Friendly Neighbours), I can buy that it's an error in Pie delivering the role he wanted, and I think that Reck's in-thread play makes up for the margin.

And aren't I right in thinking that Grib was still alive at the point at which Parama explained what his role looked like? I guess I should double-check that but I thought it was true. If it is, then Parama would not be in a position to lie.

To the top part -- I don't by that, because why heck would he format it the way he did? You know what I'm talking about. Sure, keep in the flavour that I had been told by someone else, but it looks really like a message had been forwarded to me.

I thought Grib was dead.

Bins · Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:32 am

Okay, well, the next question of thought is, why the heck is there a two-shot+ friendly neighbour with 3 scum in the game?

Bins · Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:13 am

Bulge isn't scum. If you look at how he only put effort into two fucking wagons in the entire game: PARAMA AND NM, you can see that.

I don't have a bigger case, this is just blown way out of porportion and I might answer it all later. I just want Reck lynched NOW, not in freaking LYLO. There's just too much suspicion. Reck, you shouldn't be this angry all the freaking time.

Bins · Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:14 am

In post 2067, ChannelDelibird wrote:Again, this... this isn't really news to you if you were actually reading what I said about the PM pretty much immediately after I replaced in.

But apparently it was, so don't worry, chill out, put on a Nick Mulvey track, have a glass of water and I'm pretty sure everything will be fine if we just
lynch the goons
.

Right, lynch the goons, take me to LYLO with the two people I don't have townreads on.

Bins · Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:15 am

In post 2060, ChannelDelibird wrote:@Bins, imagine me saying what Reck just said in the two posts above but much more politely. Also I've played with him a fair amount and I think I can read him pretty well; he seems town.

I get a sentence into what he says and my head hurts because of what it's seasoned with.

If we lynch a goon, Gamma first, please.

Bins · Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:36 am

If you wish to use your time more wisely, we can lynch Gamma, but not Bulge.

Bins · Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:22 pm

I see. Okay, that was a lot better, thank you.

VOTE: Gamma

All I can say is that if he flips town, you're going to hate me tomorrow.

Bins · Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:05 am

In post 2106, The Bulge wrote:Really I don't see any way we can lose this.

I just don't want to be lynched tomorrow if Gamma flips town. I feel like reck in LyLo will be dangerous (especially if he's scum)

Don't worry, it's not happening.

And I'm totally assuming we are headed into a normal, 3p LYLO after two more lynches. Please don't let me be completely blindsided by this.

Bins · Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:06 am

(That's another reason why I'd rather be in LYLO with the vanillas. Because fuck if there's another vengeful, or like stupid thing that does have a kill.

Bins · Fri Sep 26, 2014 4:47 pm

UNVOTE:

Bins · Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:00 pm

In post 2114, The Bulge wrote:I won't be around tomorrow, but I think I'd most prefer a Gamma lynch. I'll give my input on Sunday.

Give me who you want second.

Bins · Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:23 am

Ugh, you make this so hard for me.

Bins · Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:35 am

I can't explain it and every time I try to explain it people get mad at me. And I don't want to be called ridiculous again but this happens every time.

I'm not trying to be impossible, but I am actually being impossible so like yeah.

Bulge isn't scum and I would bet this entire game on it. If you guys lynch him today, my chances of fucking up LYLO (if we get there) increase immensely because I can't order who I think is scummier between you three. And while everything tells me it's Reck, I'm being told no. And then Gamma freaking seems town to me now so I'm just really freaking confused and would really just appreciate it if you guys trusted me.

This isn't the first time I've done this. I do it a lot and it pisses people off. SO when Hope + 1 ended (a game I did this in), I promised I wouldn't do it anymore. But I can read Bulge better than CDB can read Reck. If we lose because of this descision, it is 100% my fault. But if we could not lynch Bulge today, that would be swell. I will probably be okay for anyone else.

Bins · Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:53 am

In post 2124, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 2122, Bins wrote:But I can read Bulge better than CDB can read Reck

Exactly
how
do you quantify this?

Because of how CDB worded how he could read you vs. how I would explain how I can read Bulge.

Bins · Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:23 am

My problem is why the frick dammit would Parama bus BOTH of his buddies in the Night 1 QT?

Bins · Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:24 am

I feel like there's something more obvious here that I'm missing. Like a vote to put Quil, Parama, and N_M in the same room or something.

Bins · Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:26 am

Nvm, Parama and NM never voted to be together in a room.

Bins · Sun Sep 28, 2014 1:12 pm

VOTE: CDB

magic.

Bins · Sun Sep 28, 2014 1:13 pm

In post 2132, ChannelDelibird wrote:
In post 2130, Bins wrote:I feel like there's something more obvious here that I'm missing. Like a vote to put Quil, Parama, and N_M in the same room or something.

All three scum in the same room? With a room full of townies elsewhere, where maybe they start claiming to each other and coming out of it with information to which the scumgroup has no access? If you have a three-person scumgroup, that would strike me as a mismanagement of resources. Plus it means, oddly, that it's hard to fake what happened in the QT as you don't have a townie's account of it to add realism.

I'm trying to prove Bulge is town.

Bins · Sun Sep 28, 2014 1:14 pm

In post 2138, Bins wrote:VOTE: CDB

magic.

This is literally some sort of chainsaw survivalism.

I NEED BULGE ALIVE

Bins · Sun Sep 28, 2014 1:15 pm

In post 2133, ChannelDelibird wrote:In summary: Fuck. I'm actually not sure any more. Have I just confirmation-biased myself into a knot?

Well, yes.

I suggest you unvote and then I'll unvote and we can lynch Gamma or Reck because you're probably my second strongest townread!

Bins · Sun Sep 28, 2014 1:17 pm

In post 2142, The Bulge wrote:Bins do you think CDB is scum though?

No. Not really.

I'm not really sure who's scum.
It's like a 50% Reck, 30% Gamma, 20% CDB scum meter in my mind.

Yeah, yeah. "Don't vote CDB if he's town."

I NEED YOU ALIVE

Bins · Sun Sep 28, 2014 1:19 pm

UNVOTE:

Okay, actually, I doubt a Gamma QH.

Gamma if you QH, I will ehasidasdas~~ fddsa VANILLA COPYOU

Bins · Sun Sep 28, 2014 1:27 pm

In post 2147, Gammagooey wrote:I'm pretty sure that Akane/CDB's role is essentially a flavor role. It for the most part does not affect game balance, and pie would absolutely give a role like that to either alignment. Also, if you really don't want to listen to me about that then scum could also use it to fuck over town getting qts if akane/cdb was clearly the lynch and decided to self-hammer right after using it.

also, whats a QH

I have a phobia of quickhammers.

Bins · Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:48 pm

Why does everyone this game a fucking strong townread on everyone this damn game.

It's like.

CDB ---> Reck ---> Gamma ---> Bins ---> Bulge

Bins · Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:49 pm

In post 2163, xRECKONERx wrote:Gamma have you explained why BinsTown

GO AWAY

Bins · Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:27 am

In post 2178, ChannelDelibird wrote:^ if Bins were scum, this would be an interesting door vote (three scum in a five-person room, three town in another). Will be rereading Bins after I'm done with all of this mess and will pay attention to how this came around.

The sad thing is that was a vote in attempts to put the scumteam in one room.