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Post #127 (isolation #4) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 1:53 am
Postby GrayFoxxxx »
In post 93, Wisdom wrote:Elbirn you look different than last game. You had reasonable reads there, and you sticked to them despite what others said (for example you insisted I am town). I like neither your shallow tunnel on kyndy nor the way you stopped pushing her just because I didn't agree with you.
Just ISO'D wisdom. He likes to recap what happens but gives no real reads. He did this last game I played with him, and he was scum. He is way more worried about semantics, and petty points, than actually scum hunting.
In post 129, Wisdom wrote:127: Wisdom is scum because of his playstyle
try harder
In post 119, Wisdom wrote:no. His comment on Fire had nothing to do with voting Elbirn. He was just giving his own thoughts on Fire because it was the discussion at that point. He was not comparing them, neither favoring one instead of the other.
In post 116, Wisdom wrote:As for the first line, shaddoweh essentially proves how bad his push on kyndy was. He presented kyndy's RVS as wagoning yet had nothing to say about Gray doing the same thing.
In post 114, Wisdom wrote:His comment about fire was in response to the discussion that started with this:
and is irrelevant, so I don't get why you're mentioning it?
In post 99, Wisdom wrote:You asked if I could see her 6 votes thing as scum panic. I obviously don't and I have talked about it already, so it was pointless
It's a little early for reads, but I think Shadowzz, Vedith, or Grayfoxxxx. Sheeping and not many posts are my main reasons at this point in the game. Of course, that's kind hypocritical of me to say that since that's exactly what I did.
All of these, you just restate what happens. The rest of your ISO is pretty much one liners, and votes with empty reasons. I think post 93 was kind of substantial, yu should post like that more often.
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Post #141 (isolation #9) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 2:07 am
Postby GrayFoxxxx »
In post 137, Wisdom wrote:Gray has no idea what my scum play looks like, considering the game he's referring to was a greater idea variant (therefore multiball)
ANOTHER post where wisdom just states a fact, but this time he tried to correlate it to his defense.
"I was scum in that game, but you have no idea what I'm like as scum" Tf?
We were in a game, and you were scum. Don't know what else to add. "No idea" sounds kinda desperate.
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Post #142 (isolation #10) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 2:08 am
Postby GrayFoxxxx »
In post 136, The Betting Pool wrote:Grayfoxxxx, you ever play with town-Wisdom? Unless he's utterly changed in the last year-plus, his town playstyle overlaps quite a bit with his scum play. Possibly even more jumpy. Although his game opening was pretty much what I'd expect from town-Wisdom, heh.
P-edit: will quote post that felt weird in just a minute.
--PA
Never played a town game with him, I'll take this into consideration.
133 is asking you to prove your baseless accusation. Not a recap.
129 is ponting out how your accusation sucks. Not a recap.
119, 116, 114 is me trying to show Vedith how he has completely misinterpreted what Shadoweh posted. Not recaps.
99 is explaining why Vedith's question was pointless. Not a recap.
70 is pointing out that kyndy is not voting any of her scumreads. Not a recap.
21 is quite obviously not a recap, it's an accusation.
buh bye
Dude, its obv from past games you give words new definitions. You argued about the word "doubt" with me, even after I copied and pasted the definition. You were scum that game. And now you are doing the same thing.
In post 137, Wisdom wrote:Gray has no idea what my scum play looks like, considering the game he's referring to was a greater idea variant (therefore multiball)
ANOTHER post where wisdom just states a fact, but this time he tried to correlate it to his defense.
"I was scum in that game, but you have no idea what I'm like as scum" Tf?
We were in a game, and you were scum. Don't know what else to add. "No idea" sounds kinda desperate.
you still don't know how I look like as scum, sorry
Thanks, give me a minute to read all the reasons you are providing.
There are people who have over 20 games with me and still can't meta me. You can't meta me off a single game, especially given that game was multiball and I was genuinely scumhunting for other factions. If anything, if my play this game reminds you of that game, you should be taking it as a sign I am town.
But even without any meta, it's quite evident I am town. All these posts you listed, in all of them I am scumhunting, trying to make people see their mistakes and either fix them or respond in ways that could be telling. You are just disliking the way I am doing it.
Nah, looks like how you played as scum last game.
Don't need your "last chance". What ever that meant.
Unless im misunderstanding, Elbirn is subtly calling my actions scummy. His few posts before that had me thinking we would end up here. Seems I was right.
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Post #247 (isolation #27) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 5:23 pm
Postby GrayFoxxxx »
In post 246, Elbirn wrote:Really I'm looking for betting pools opinions. I don't have much of a judgement on you gray and idk I'm not sober and don't feel like on depth thinking about you right now
But if o can provoke discussion, particularly with betting, then awesome
I get how part of that sounds like me accusing you bit really it's me saying that betting thought process should result in thinking you're scum bit it doesnt?
If that makes sense?
It's not the same, it's saying that his thought process is odd
Yeah idk
Are you asking my if I think, that BP should think, that I look like scum?
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Post #260 (isolation #32) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:12 am
Postby GrayFoxxxx »
In post 258, Wisdom wrote:It wasn't drunkiness. Elbirn was saying that Betting's thought process should lead him to thinking you are scum, yet it doesn't. He wasn't arguing you are scum, or that you should think BP should think you are scum.
I'm not the one who is confused why are you explaining it to me
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Post #264 (isolation #34) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:26 am
Postby GrayFoxxxx »
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I get how part of that sounds like me accusing you bit really it's me saying that betting thought process should result in thinking you're scum bit it doesnt?
here is the question, I can see how you wouldn't be able to tell initially, as the words seem a little mixed up. Like he was drunk or something. Anyway the question mark is a dead qiveaway that he was ASKING ME SOMETHING
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Post #271 (isolation #39) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:35 am
Postby GrayFoxxxx »
In post 270, Wisdom wrote:I explained to you exactly what he was saying which was obvious anyway, but no you're insisting it was a question because there was a question mark
Ok wisdom I'll let you go on with a peaceful mind. Question marks don't equal questions, ok? See, I'm not asking anything here, as I put a question mark?
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Post #282 (isolation #48) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:49 am
Postby GrayFoxxxx »
Remember when you didn't know the meaning of doubt in our last game? Remember when you still denied it after i copied the definition? You did that as scum. And now you are debating something similar here. Scum scum. You should mull over that before you keep pushing semantics.
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Post #284 (isolation #49) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:52 am
Postby GrayFoxxxx »
Redundant^. Keep ignoring the main fact if you need. I'm not interested in debating this any longer, as I see youre stuck on the fact question marks don't indicate questions.
In post 269, Wisdom wrote:its not a question you just fail at comprehension
In post 270, Wisdom wrote:I explained to you exactly what he was saying which was obvious anyway, but no you're insisting it was a question because there was a question mark
In post 283, Wisdom wrote:He asks if that makes sense, namely if you now understand, if the misunderstanding was cleared
Anyone notice how wisdom went from "HE NEVER ASKED A QUESTION", to "YOU ARE MISUNDERSTANDING HIS QUESTION".
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Post #293 (isolation #54) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:16 am
Postby GrayFoxxxx »
Wisdom, you keep over explaining other things that have nothing to do with the fact that he asked me something. I think it was an odd question.you don't have to reiterate the whole game here.
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Post #295 (isolation #55) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 4:20 am
Postby GrayFoxxxx »
In post 283, Wisdom wrote: 246/248 - Elbirn tries to clear up the misunderstanding, explaining that he was questioning Betting about the read on you and the oddities around it, not giving his own read on you.
He asks if that makes sense,
namely if you now understand, if the misunderstanding was cleared
When I answered, you told me it wasn't a question, over and over and over.
Wtf is this? You say here that he DID ask me a question. I don't even know what you are trying to say anymore. Fucking scum get confusing.
In post 283, Wisdom wrote: 246/248 - Elbirn tries to clear up the misunderstanding, explaining that he was questioning Betting about the read on you and the oddities around it, not giving his own read on you.
He asks if that makes sense,
namely if you now understand, if the misunderstanding was cleared
When I answered, you told me it wasn't a question, over and over and over.
Wtf is this? You say here that he DID ask me a question. I don't even know what you are trying to say anymore. Fucking scum get confusing.
OH MY GOD I THINK I liked you better when you were lurking. Jeez this whole argument made me feel stupid just reading it.
Please just read slower, or try to comprehend better.
In post 283, Wisdom wrote:ill try for one last time even though I know it's for naught
235 - Elbirn asks Betting for his reads on me and you. 239 - Betting gives the reads, including townreading you for X,Y,Z reasons. 240 - Elbirn argues that X,Y,Z reasons should normally lead Betting to believe you are scum, not town. 242/244 - You misunderstand that as Elbirn arguing/implying you are scum. 246/248 - Elbirn tries to clear up the misunderstanding, explaining that he was questioning Betting about the read on you and the oddities around it, not giving his own read on you. He asks if that makes sense, namely if you now understand, if the misunderstanding was cleared 249 up to now - You misunderstand that as Elbirn asking you if you believe Betting should scumread you.
This is correct, and I apologize for any misunderstanding gray. My questions were directed to betting, and then I tried to clear it up with you.
It's cool, I've drunk posted unintelligible gibberish before.
Now fucking wisdom is right for the wrong reasons.