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Possibly scum excuse here, scum have more tendency to have static reads over dynamic ones. Feels like one of those "Oh hey look i have been scumreading her so this is obviously not clashing with any reads i have had"
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what it was is he didn't want to vote to put you at L-1, but since someone removed their vote he put it on because he was no longer putting it at L-1. That's not scummy. That's sensibility.
This implies that nothing i did changed such read, since i have answered his questions in full, this means he has other questions or didnt like my answers, in whichever case you'd think he'd be either posting more questions or a case, i don't see either, do you?
It's a bit hard to see much while the games in slow mode.
Now, do you think it's standard me to do this, or unusual me to do this? - Serious question.
In post 52, Vedith wrote:Now, do you think it's standard me to do this, or unusual me to do this? - Serious question.
I come from the basic assumption that town will try to sort people, this is usually done by interaction, asking questions, making cases, etc.
You asked me some questions, I answered them, your vote still went to me, So i assume that you still think im scum despite my answers, you are not asking me any further questions nor are trying to sell my case to anyone so they follow you, so i assume you're not trying to sort me, rather you saw something weak you could push and went along with it.
I thought that you didn't really scum hunt and you town hunt instead?
It depends on the game, but since i was outed i decided to just go back to my old playstyle anyway, Townhunting hasn't really worked for me as much as i'd have hoped.
I said me, not from basic assumption. Please re answer.
However, I've been waiting for more input. Filling 5 pages up of me going you are scum and you saying that you are not is not proactive.
And the going to old style is just bullshit. XD As scum, you don't need to town hunt as you already know all the town (Or at least who isn't Mafia).
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Post #59 (isolation #9) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:30 am
Postby Vedith »
In post 56, Luna Fox wrote:Why would Scum me, not simply have followed suit and voted for the same "comic sans joke" reason that everyone else was doing.
The primary reason you would do this is because your scum partners are not on the wagon or did this reason.
So you try to push for a mis lynch.
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Post #62 (isolation #10) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:31 am
Postby Vedith »
In post 57, Luna Fox wrote:Im so certain, that you wont find any scum motivation on my actions, that i'll even dare to say that if you find one single scum motivation for my actions that are clearly more beneficial to scum me as opposed to other possible actions i could have taken at that point in time, i'll self vote and let you guys speed lynch me.
In post 56, Luna Fox wrote:Why would Scum me, not simply have followed suit and voted for the same "comic sans joke" reason that everyone else was doing.
The primary reason you would do this is because your scum partners are not on the wagon or did this reason.
So you try to push for a mis lynch.
If i were doing that then i would've voted along bulge, not against him, do you disagree?
I disagree. You just want to draw attention to people rather than yourself or scum partners.
Might not be the case but you did ask for a scum minded reason.
In post 58, Vedith wrote:As scum, you don't need to town hunt as you already know all the town (Or at least who isn't Mafia).
It's funny, back when i mentioned my playstyle was townhunting people saw i was scum because it's easy for scum to townread the town.
Now that i reverted back to townhunting, apparently im scum for the same reason.
This is quite a hilarious case you got there.
Your argument was actually that you always town hunt.
Now you are scum hunting... I've never seen you scum hunt before this game.
In post 64, Vedith wrote:I disagree. You just want to draw attention to people rather than yourself or scum partners.
Might not be the case but you did ask for a scum minded reason.
And who would be these supposed partners? Unless you think Davsto is scum and i didn't want to bus, then his vote on me doesn't make any sense, disagree?
I don't think that you are getting what I am saying.
This is why I try not to waste many comments with you because it's always the same with you...
I'll let others have an opinion but I'm going with scum on you.
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Post #91 (isolation #15) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:28 am
Postby Vedith »
The problem is Luna, other people are not participating right now. I agree that we need to make sure that we don't tunnel over this, but possibly (and only possibly) the inactivity of this game so far gives you off as the biggest scum read.
In post 95, Peptobislawl wrote:As a side note, if that is your real meta, it looks like you got lucky fingering someone at might-as well-be-random a couple of times and started to trust your methods despite the myslynches.
I wouldn't count might be random when i have an accuracy rate of 70% out of about 80 games.
But of course all you have for me is my word
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Post #99 (isolation #18) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:20 am
Postby Vedith »
That's 10/10 defence right there.
What gets me is if people always scum read you for your bad scum reads, why are you scum reading in this game rather than town reading.
Keeping in mind you don't get seen as scum much when you are town reading.
Seriously Luna, you need to up your town comments if you are town...
UNVOTE: Luna
I think normally this is too much of a hasty reveal, but it doesn't fully surprise me with Luna.
Regardless, with that claim, she would obviously choose a Fox and due to other powers the power each night wouldn't be too justifiable.
In post 116, Luna Fox wrote:Anyway, now that you've unvoted me i got a question for you
Do you think my push on Bulge was because i legit had a scumread there, or to get us out of RVS.
Out of the 2 I would expect because you had a scum read even if it had no logic to it.
It was actually both, i did say i never lie, so if you were paying attention to my posts you'd know this.
I've mentioned both in Page 2 and why, in addition i mentioned how strong my read on Bulge was, the strength was "enough for a page 1 read", i'll leave to your interpretation how strong that means.
Anyway, who else are you scumreading/townreading, why?
You saying that you never lie is a pile of shit though. Hence my comment on it.
Well to say that I scum read someone when there's basically no activity in itself is just silly. I don't agree with you for the Bulge reason and neither do I agree with your town read on Dav (For the reasons only, not from my reasons, but I think Dav is town).
Apart from that, more involvement is needed to go forward.
In post 121, Peptobislawl wrote:I don't really buy a role that would take the magjority of the game to verify. It's a very conveniant role for you to have in your position.
VOTE: Luna to put you back at 3
Cool, let's keep helping scum kill PRs.
Then where should he vote?
Sell us something that is logical.
In post 121, Peptobislawl wrote:I don't really buy a role that would take the magjority of the game to verify. It's a very conveniant role for you to have in your position.
VOTE: Luna to put you back at 3
Cool, let's keep helping scum kill PRs.
Then where should he vote?
Sell us something that is logical.
Bulge
Giving a name isn't selling it.
I'd like him to say more over the matter but I don't think his vote was scummy.
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Post #157 (isolation #34) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 9:51 am
Postby Vedith »
In post 155, Luna Fox wrote:Also i'm self hammering if im ever at L-1, just letting you know, because i still believe that im just being an obstruction at this point.
Also i'm self hammering if im ever at L-1, just letting you know, because i still believe that im just being an obstruction at this point.
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Post #161 (isolation #35) » Tue Sep 29, 2015 9:55 am
Postby Vedith »
This is the reason I said to wait for others to get involved.
I can understand why you are getting frustrated if you are town but just self voting isn't going to help here.
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Post #197 (isolation #38) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 6:05 am
Postby Vedith »
In post 194, Luna Fox wrote:Meanwhile notscience has been avoiding this thread and it's a known meta scumtell of his.
Oh wait im the one who said that
OMG SO IM TRYING TO GET A MISLYNCH!
In post 194, Luna Fox wrote:Meanwhile notscience has been avoiding this thread and it's a known meta scumtell of his.
Oh wait im the one who said that
OMG SO IM TRYING TO GET A MISLYNCH!
How many games have you played with NS?
Over 9000!
In all seriousness more than 10-20, have played with him for over 2 years and a half and we're very good friends outside of mafia.
Well for me activity means piss all.
But at least we have someone who can read him for his in game posts when he starts. I've only played 1 with him so far and I have no tell on what he isn't/is like.
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Post #204 (isolation #40) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:02 am
Postby Vedith »
I'm always shit at looking town.
Okay, so there are restrictions. Can you explain it, or do you not care to explain it (see what I did there?)
For example, is your daily posting limited? 1 I don't care for yes, 2 I don't care for no.
And at the rest, what's the view on restrictions align wise? 1 and 1 or both likely to be the same align?
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Post #234 (isolation #44) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:43 am
Postby Vedith »
In post 232, Peptobislawl wrote:She picked the first guy who random voted the same as someone else, assuming it was opportunistic to push a "wagon" that would go nowhere, apparently believing that scum could hide better on an RVS wagon than anywhere else during RVS. She then proceeded to defend this as a serious read despite all active players at the time telling her it doesn't make sense.
I get that... But why do you not believe her role claim?
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Post #241 (isolation #45) » Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:54 am
Postby Vedith »
In post 235, notscience wrote:Hey Vedith, what do you think of someone defending someone else who hasn't really done anything and trying to nitpick the push on him?
I mean, I can see his doubt to not go along with it, but the arguing part seems off. It's as if though he's writing the possibility off while Dav on the other hand seems to be keeping an open mind.
It seems convenient, since she can only do it even nights, we'd have to wait till D3 to "easily verify" it. Honestly the only thing that makes me think Luna might be town is that scum wouldn't dare be so suicidal.
Follow up question - How can we easily verify it on day 3?
I think that we should give her more credit to the fact that she would be a little more creative as scum. I've seen odd and even nights for roles enough to accept them. Does this seem un ordinary since we have 2 post restriction roles?