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Post #18 (isolation #1) » Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:57 am
Postby MURDERCAT »
Deadlines are 10 days for Day, 48 hours for Night. Fail to submit actions on time and they are forfeit. If no majority exists, the player with the highest vote total is lynched. In a tie, it's whoever held the highest vote total prior to the tie.
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Post #96 (isolation #10) » Sun Jun 12, 2016 4:01 pm
Postby MURDERCAT »
Honestly sick I can't read you at all because you throw out random accusations with no backing as town and scum so I'm just going to pay attention to your other head.
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Post #130 (isolation #14) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:51 am
Postby MURDERCAT »
TBH, I didn't even see BNL's post when I posted that. I don't want him at L-1 because I've heard of scum "accidently" hammering really early and I've seen really stupid claims this early. There's nothing L-1 does that L-2 doesn't do and only bad things come from L-1 this early in my experience. Links coming...
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Post #134 (isolation #17) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:12 am
Postby MURDERCAT »
Yeah push him to L-1 and then call whatever he does overdefensive, seems like a good scum strat to me. If someone else wants to put him back at L-1 that's fine but I have a feeling they won't because town is usually uncomfortable with L-1 this early.
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Post #141 (isolation #21) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 6:27 am
Postby MURDERCAT »
I think it sometimes doesn't show when I'm on my phone and I've clicked to read unread posts on one page but there's new posts on a second page that I haven't looked at. It has happened to me before. Or maybe it just doesn't show with quick reply? I don't know.
As for your other point, I think everyone can agree that hammering now would be stupid. So theoretically a hammer would be NAI because it's a bad play for either alignment. So I don't really think we could be sure a hammerer would be a wolf (of course we'd probably still lynch them). So I stand by my point that nothing good can come from it and honestly town is more likely to make stupid mistakes than scum (I know I have made my fair share as town).
Regardless, my point on you isn't that L-1 is particularly dangerous and you were looking for a lynch, just that scum like to go to L-1 early in my experience.
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Post #168 (isolation #25) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:11 am
Postby MURDERCAT »
Assuming werewolves actually don't have a way to kill, that means they need to get 4 mislynches correct? Assuming wolf dies first, that's 5-1. I assume 1-1 would be a wolf win, because how else can they win after one of them dies? Seems like a tall order even without a cop (or whatever the werewolf version of cop is, I forget).
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Post #172 (isolation #26) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:23 am
Postby MURDERCAT »
Right, but I'm going to guess that the 5 people who created/assisted with/reviewed the game probably caught that and werewolves would win that situation.
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Post #201 (isolation #30) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:11 am
Postby MURDERCAT »
I've only played with sick but I find the way he throws around random accusations with not a lot of reasoning to be extremely scummy. I also know it's NAI for him.
In post 199, MURDERCAT wrote:Chip specifically asked me for links. You are stretching.
And why didn't you just link him to BNL's post? Do you really expect us to believe you thought the theory was completely original to you?
Well for one he specifically asked for the games I was talking about. And two the points we made are totally different. BNL is talking about the speed of the wagon generally and is scum reading me and town reading BTD for it. I specifically found the L-1 vote suspicious based on my experience.
In post 201, MURDERCAT wrote:I've only played with sick but I find the way he throws around random accusations with not a lot of reasoning to be extremely scummy. I also know it's NAI for him.
Interesting.
When have I done this in this game?
If anyone is doin it out of the two of us I would be you.
I've been making organic arguments against chip and BTD and Ll you've done is sheep it.
Be careful what you are saying.
~ Sick
For one, I'm on Karnos right now for a very concrete reason which I have provided evidence for. Two, I think it's obvious I'm referring to this exchange:
In post 90, JaeReed wrote:What do you think about Murder trying to direct conversation towards BTD in 72?
I dont like it or even Murdercat in general. Look at his ISO... its not a towny ISO
In post 96, MURDERCAT wrote:Honestly sick I can't read you at all because you throw out random accusations with no backing as town and scum so I'm just going to pay attention to your other head.
In post 97, ReallySick wrote:No seriously look at you ISO. It looks like you don't want to be noticed.
~ Sick
Note: your last post makes me want to scum read you. If you we're town you would want all the information you can get.
In post 98, MURDERCAT wrote:I'll humor you. What exactly is indicative of me not wanting to be noticed?
I don't think you responded. It always pings me when people throw shade without backing it up.
However, my experience with you (640) suggests that, as town, you will pick scum reads very early and are prone to conf bias so what looks like scum stretching to push a mislynch is actually just mistaken town. I can't talk about my experience with scum you yet due to ongoing games, but I probably wouldn't want you to know how I read you as scum anyway.
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Post #215 (isolation #33) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 4:54 am
Postby MURDERCAT »
I just meant that it's probably not in my best interest to go into my scum tell on him anyway, as I'm in a game with him and if he is scum I don't want him to know what that tell is. I currently have a light town read on your slot, in part because of your half of the posting and in part because he has not exhibited the behavior I would expect from him as scum (despite the fact that I would find some his other behavior, such as how we threw shade at me without really following it up, scummy from another player).
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Post #224 (isolation #37) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:14 am
Postby MURDERCAT »
Anyway, we have to go with what we know, we can't avoid lynching scum because they are too scummy. I'm feeling ok with this lynch, one of {Karnos, BTD} is probably scum (obviously I think Karnos, but it's true there is no defending BTD's iso) and we have room to play with considering there's no night kills.
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Post #267 (isolation #48) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:57 am
Postby MURDERCAT »
The only reason you would do that it is you are afraid that the seer will find scum, not say anything, find the other scum and then come out with both. Because now even if BTD were seer and got lynched, D&A is dead tomorrow and seer successfully traded, which is exactly what town wants.
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Post #310 (isolation #51) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:14 am
Postby MURDERCAT »
Let's just lynch me, everyone seems to have a scum read on me so I'm getting lynched at some point anyway and we let the "seer" work for a night. If he comes up empty then you guys can lynch him.
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Post #365 (isolation #54) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:51 pm
Postby MURDERCAT »
That's a good point Char, you really haven't done anything. Mind giving reads? I'm wondering if you're a strong town read because you're a scum buddy and that was a weak distance attempt because otherwise that makes no sense to me.
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Post #367 (isolation #55) » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:07 am
Postby MURDERCAT »
His explanation seemed to make sense though, wouldn't he be caught if a different person PM'd him as seer and was suddenly vengekilled? Seems like it would be a risky play.
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Post #368 (isolation #56) » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:15 am
Postby MURDERCAT »
Oh wait are you saying Karnos is going to claim someone sent him a seer PM even if he didn't get one just to get BTD lynched? I also don't see how this explains you at the top of the town reads. Please explain more when you can.
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Post #371 (isolation #57) » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:01 am
Postby MURDERCAT »
Not saying I believe this, but say you are a wolf and no one PMs. Then you say someone PM'd, kill BTD and he flips seer. Then you say something like MC PM'd me, he is scum who wanted seer dead! People probably buy it because you are being town read by everyone. That lets you trade for seer plus me plus the vengekills which is pretty good.