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Post #38405 (isolation #400 ) » Fri Dec 26, 2014 12:37 pm
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that was for a small period of time back in s2
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Post #38416 (isolation #401 ) » Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:28 pm
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I use diana
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Post #38430 (isolation #402 ) » Sat Dec 27, 2014 6:33 pm
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Post #38506 (isolation #403 ) » Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:28 pm
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by FakeGod » Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:28 pm
I have filled out like 6 riot surveys in hopes of receiving things!
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Post #38547 (isolation #404 ) » Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:23 pm
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by FakeGod » Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:23 pm
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BRING ME MY CAPE OF SUN
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Post #38550 (isolation #405 ) » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:45 pm
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by FakeGod » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:45 pm
hey myko
I'm thinking of picking up gragas; do you have any tips
I think you mained him at some point?
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Post #38554 (isolation #406 ) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:49 am
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by FakeGod » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:49 am
I was hoping to pick him up for solo top or mid.
Do you have any tips?
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Post #38561 (isolation #407 ) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:42 pm
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by FakeGod » Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:42 pm
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooo
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Post #38563 (isolation #408 ) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 1:45 pm
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by FakeGod » Thu Jan 08, 2015 1:45 pm
Can I play him as AP mid?
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Post #38566 (isolation #409 ) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:02 pm
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by FakeGod » Thu Jan 08, 2015 3:02 pm
QQ
I need a dependable AP mid to play
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Post #38569 (isolation #410 ) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:57 pm
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by FakeGod » Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:57 pm
Alright, played some Gragas with AI and I have few thoughts.
WTF is up with his ridiculously long casting animation???
Straight AP stacking seems to be suboptimal. (do I even max Q first??)
I think I'm going to try pseudo AP tank build I run on Malphite.
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Post #38574 (isolation #411 ) » Thu Jan 08, 2015 9:07 pm
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Post #38585 (isolation #412 ) » Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:19 am
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by FakeGod » Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:19 am
Tried out gragas in mid and top.
Gragas is just a harder version of malphite I think. It's not more rewarding, just harder.
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Post #38586 (isolation #413 ) » Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:19 am
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by FakeGod » Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:19 am
I'm kinda sad.
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Post #38595 (isolation #414 ) » Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:32 pm
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by FakeGod » Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:32 pm
Finished a 85 min game with Gragas.
Far as I can tell, Gragas doesn't belong in the lategame. My damage was virtually zero, and every member on the enemy team could 1v1 me easily. (including the enemy support Sona)
If I'm only there for my ult, I might as well be playing malphite. His ult is much better.
I think I'm giving up on this champion.
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Post #38597 (isolation #415 ) » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:49 pm
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by FakeGod » Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:49 pm
Not yet, but I'm hoping for good news any time now!
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Post #38599 (isolation #416 ) » Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:51 pm
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Post #38630 (isolation #417 ) » Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:24 pm
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by FakeGod » Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:24 pm
Myrimidon Pantheon.
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Post #38632 (isolation #418 ) » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:38 pm
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by FakeGod » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:38 pm
I tried more Gragas because I'm bad at giving up.
I treated him more like a bruiser than a mage, and I had better results.
I started to rush either catalyst or chalice (depending on enemy lane), and finished ROA into Athene's. This seems to give me enough staying power to not die during laning phase.
Mid/lategame, it seems that spamming abilities is the key to playing Gragas. Damage is still low, but I've accepted that I'm not actually a mage.
Regarding ult, I've started to use it for disengage, rather than engage. I usually cast it on top of my adc. Ult makes so much more sense now.
Current build: catalyst/chalice, ROA, Athene's, Sorc Shoes, Randuin's, zhonya's, then I dunno. My lategame seems to suck no matter what my items are. Most of my gragas wins are sub 26 min.
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Post #38634 (isolation #419 ) » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:41 pm
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by FakeGod » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:41 pm
Top or Mid. It seems like Gragas can do either.
I'm more desperate for mana than anything else tbh in early game.
I build Abyssal on top of whatever I have if I need MR badly, but I have a suspicion that Spirit Visage might be better here.
Much testing is needed.
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Post #38636 (isolation #420 ) » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:51 pm
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by FakeGod » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:51 pm
I have tried rushing glacial shroud into iceborn, and I find it an inferior option to rushing catalyst into ROA.
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Post #38637 (isolation #421 ) » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:53 pm
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by FakeGod » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:53 pm
In post 38633 , Oman wrote: Prob recommend Morello's over Athene's either way, but if you're desperate for the MR...
Because I'm building Randuin's as 3rd item, my defensive stats become lobsided.
Normally, solution is to build a hexdrinker, but that's not an option here unfortunately.
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Post #38639 (isolation #422 ) » Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:09 pm
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by FakeGod » Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:09 pm
I'm starting to think that mage gragas is a myth
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Post #38659 (isolation #423 ) » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:19 pm
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by FakeGod » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:19 pm
Gragas pick is definitely working out for me!
Catalyst rush into ROA seems to be the best opening.
Early MR isn't as necessary as I thought. I skip Athene's, and go for my tank items soon as my ROA and sorc shoes are finished.
Current item build: Doran's Ring or Shield, Catalyst into ROA, finish shoes, Spirit Visage & Randuin's in some order for 2nd & 3rd items.
I was thinking of Zhonya's for 4th, if the game goes that long. I honestly don't know what to buy late game.
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Post #38662 (isolation #424 ) » Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:07 pm
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by FakeGod » Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:07 pm
I don't build anywhere near enough AP to warrant a Rabadon's. Building that much AP is prohibitive due to his sad sad ratios.
Gragas's base damage on his spells is too shitty for a void staff.
Abyssal might be useful if our team has double AP composition, but it seems situational at best.
Split pushing with Gragas? ahahhhahahha
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Post #38701 (isolation #425 ) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:08 pm
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by FakeGod » Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:08 pm
"even noah's arc couldn't carry these animals"
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Post #38707 (isolation #426 ) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:59 pm
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by FakeGod » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:59 pm
dfg has been removed from PBE I think
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Post #38709 (isolation #427 ) » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:03 pm
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by FakeGod » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:03 pm
and then we never heard from ahri again
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Post #38724 (isolation #428 ) » Wed Jan 14, 2015 6:42 am
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by FakeGod » Wed Jan 14, 2015 6:42 am
yeah, veigar jungle would be quite bad I imagine
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Post #38727 (isolation #429 ) » Wed Jan 14, 2015 6:59 am
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by FakeGod » Wed Jan 14, 2015 6:59 am
MY OLAF JUNGLE IS INVINCIBLE
shaco jungle is garbage now tho
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Post #38731 (isolation #430 ) » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:59 am
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by FakeGod » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:59 am
new tristana looks like a mutated yordle
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Post #38744 (isolation #431 ) » Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:27 pm
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by FakeGod » Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:27 pm
I dunno
outside saying which lane they want, people generally don't talk in games
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Post #38747 (isolation #432 ) » Wed Jan 14, 2015 4:51 pm
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by FakeGod » Wed Jan 14, 2015 4:51 pm
whoa wait a second
tristana has item-specific quotes
is this a thing now?
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Post #38750 (isolation #433 ) » Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:23 pm
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by FakeGod » Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:23 pm
where can I hear these item quotes
my youtube skills are too inferior to find them
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Post #38754 (isolation #434 ) » Wed Jan 14, 2015 7:16 pm
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by FakeGod » Wed Jan 14, 2015 7:16 pm
I already heard Trist's
Dram said item quotes have been a thing for awhile now
where can I find them for other champions?
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Post #38757 (isolation #435 ) » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:02 pm
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by FakeGod » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:02 pm
omg omg
they have been located
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Post #38784 (isolation #436 ) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:45 am
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by FakeGod » Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:45 am
Best skin for each champion?
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Post #38790 (isolation #437 ) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:23 pm
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by FakeGod » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:23 pm
Ok, we're going to do this methodically.
Best skin for first 5 champions:
Aatrox: Classic
Ahri: Challenger
Akali: Stinger
Alistar: probably Longhorn
Amumu: Sad Robot
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Post #38793 (isolation #438 ) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:49 pm
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by FakeGod » Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:49 pm
it's ok but not as good as the robot
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Post #38796 (isolation #439 ) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:54 pm
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by FakeGod » Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:54 pm
How is Challenger Ahri worse than Pop Star????
wtfffff
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Post #38797 (isolation #440 ) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:06 pm
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by FakeGod » Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:06 pm
In post 38795 , PJ. wrote: Anivia: Bird of Prey
Annie: Reverse
Ashe: Amethyst
Azir: I've never seen Azir
Blitzcrank: Definitely Not
Brand: Zombie
Anivia: Classic/BoP/Hextech all good
Annie: Frostfire but there honestly isn't a BAD annie skin
Ashe: Amethyst
Azir: Protoss
Blitzcrank: RUSTY
Brand: Zombie
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Post #38800 (isolation #441 ) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:31 pm
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by FakeGod » Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:31 pm
you guys are crazy
RUSTY is the best
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Post #38803 (isolation #442 ) » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:31 pm
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by FakeGod » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:31 pm
Braum: Classic
Caitlyn: Classic
Cass: Classic I guess... they're all shitty
Cho: Gentleman
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Post #38812 (isolation #443 ) » Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:09 am
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by FakeGod » Tue Jan 20, 2015 6:09 am
Liss does well against Zed in my experience
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Post #38849 (isolation #444 ) » Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:07 am
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by FakeGod » Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:07 am
In post 38847 , zoraster wrote: you totally want to play with the first people who queue up in the season. I'm sure they're going to be very reasonable, kind people.
It might be the once-in-a-year chance to play with doublelift on your team.
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Post #38857 (isolation #445 ) » Wed Jan 21, 2015 7:11 am
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by FakeGod » Wed Jan 21, 2015 7:11 am
twisted fate can midtopjungleadcsupport
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Post #38866 (isolation #446 ) » Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:48 pm
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by FakeGod » Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:48 pm
whoa these ranked people are intense
I'm seeing a lot more tryhards than usual
I might throw couple games to see how they react
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Post #38885 (isolation #447 ) » Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:39 am
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by FakeGod » Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:39 am
I am 4-3 so far.
Where will I end up in?
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Post #38887 (isolation #448 ) » Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:43 am
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by FakeGod » Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:43 am
I finished s4 at gold 1.
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Post #38893 (isolation #449 ) » Thu Jan 22, 2015 2:43 pm
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by FakeGod » Thu Jan 22, 2015 2:43 pm
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Post #38895 (isolation #450 ) » Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:50 pm
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by FakeGod » Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:50 pm
alright 5-3
omw to 7-3 the dream
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Post #38898 (isolation #451 ) » Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:26 pm
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by FakeGod » Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:26 pm
5-4, dream is dead
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Post #38900 (isolation #452 ) » Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:18 pm
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by FakeGod » Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:18 pm
I WON I WON I WON
I WAS PLAYING BLITZ, AND WE WERE LOSING UNTIL I MADE SERIES OF GAME WINNING GRABS
HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT IT WAS AMAZING
DO YOU KNOW HOW TO HOOK AROUND MINIONS? CUZ I CAN DO IT RELIABLY
AHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA
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Post #38901 (isolation #453 ) » Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:18 pm
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by FakeGod » Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:18 pm
6-4 the dream
I start season at gold 2
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Post #38902 (isolation #454 ) » Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:24 pm
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by FakeGod » Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:24 pm
oh all the baits
they thought they had me until my 2000+ shield popped up (1.5 tears, muramana + Archangel's)
I had 240 armor from frozen heart AND iceborn gauntlet
my max hp was shit, so their fully built fed gnar with BOTRK couldn't do ANYTHING VS ME
THEY COULDN'T FUCKING TOUCH ME
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Post #38903 (isolation #455 ) » Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:26 pm
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by FakeGod » Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:26 pm
like you can see the terror in their eyes when they think you're dead, and then my entire hp bar glows white with my mana barrier
THE TERROR
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Post #38905 (isolation #456 ) » Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:47 pm
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by FakeGod » Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:47 pm
My Blitz E does: (3.25 seconds cd)
[121 (base) + 15 (runes) + 80.8 (muramana passive)] x2 (blitz e) + 181.5 (iceborn effect) + 242 (muramana active) = 857.1 plus 1 second knockup
Total MANA = [947 (base) + 1000 (muramana) + 1000 (arcangel's) + 500 (iceborn) + 400 (frozen heart)] x 1.05 (masteries) = 4038.35
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Post #38966 (isolation #457 ) » Sat Jan 24, 2015 4:48 pm
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by FakeGod » Sat Jan 24, 2015 4:48 pm
Gragas Q: (minimum)
80 / 120 / 160 / 200 / 240 (+ 60% AP)
Gragas W:
20 / 50 / 80 / 110 / 140 (+ 30% AP) (+ 8 / 9 / 10 / 11 / 12% of target's maximum health)
Gragas E:
80 / 130 / 180 / 230 / 280 (+ 60% AP)
Gragas R:
200 / 300 / 400 (+ 70% AP)
Leona Q:
40 / 70 / 100 / 130 / 160 (+ 30% AP)
Leona W:
60 / 110 / 160 / 210 / 260 (+ 40% AP)
Leona E:
60 / 100 / 140 / 180 / 220 (+ 40% AP)
Leona R:
150 / 250 / 350 (+ 80% AP)
Gragas has way better burst than Leona.
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Post #38977 (isolation #458 ) » Sat Jan 24, 2015 6:34 pm
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by FakeGod » Sat Jan 24, 2015 6:34 pm
Only reason you bring Gragas to the team is for his dance.
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Post #39021 (isolation #459 ) » Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:40 pm
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by FakeGod » Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:40 pm
The illusion is gone. Gragas is definitely not the hero I was looking for.
Every time I play him, I wish I had picked Malphite instead.
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I have picked Jayce to be my next go-to mid/top laner.
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Post #39171 (isolation #460 ) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:37 pm
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by FakeGod » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:37 pm
uhh malzahar floats
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