Mission 2a - The Fire and Brimstone Job
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will read this tomorrow first thing in the morning I need a game to moderate right nowFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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I am medic I am better in preception (5) and normal on demolition(3) and my logic is good (4)
Technomancer is good with logic (5) and is bad with demolition (2) and is bad on preception (2)
Face is bad with demolition(2) , good with logic (5) and good with preception(5)
I guess these are all involved factors in this decision so I'm ok with option number two , jaread what is your idea about that?False tears bring pain to those around you
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I have two questions
why you chose a demolishing rune for our characters
what happened to "I will change PV if its possible thingi?"
I have my doubts about ABR and the message thingi as well and I don't like the way my questions got ignored becuase I wasn't around before the night end. I want to sort my asteral fellows as well PV seems really helpful and freindly and generally ok in that private topic but out of it he didn't do so much.False tears bring pain to those around you
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I can understand yeah
I know how assholey this political Bullshit fights might get.
I prefred if you were analyzing what is the best for us though. anyway, I guess we can get this done with our line of abilities.False tears bring pain to those around you
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I am town again lol , hope you are as well
I have some guesses about stuff :
- I think scum did whatever they could with matrix and will strike astral tonight.
- I beleive for some reasons we son't see karnos flip. If this happened mathblade is 100% scum ; scum knew there is a way to janit the death or delay the flip if they just delay the lynch in hope for a vig kill at night and they could use it to make others beleive scums lost some of their utilities (like they made town think their vig is limited to matrix and is now gone)
- I beleive the game started with a day vig and a night vig who must guess their victims current region for doing the kill. MC was the day vig and scum controls the night vig.
- I beleive all the game roles started naturally and litterally every role can be town or scum and there is no witght in claims by themselves.
this is just what I think about the stuff atm
and I knew drixx joined matrix becuase if he weren't he was alive right now. that makes me think the vig knew he was a part of matrix and I'm sure its restricted in telling the region names.
I won't claim anything though. I wanted to tell this out load cuase I think jaread is town and there is a good chance you are as wellFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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I mean I knew that before reading the game with only reading the setup and the pm's I got from the mod.False tears bring pain to those around you
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VOTE: Choice 2False tears bring pain to those around you
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what was the mod error you mentioned inter? they forgot to change pv with abr? are they changed now?
can you make the mods confirm a mod error happened before the night or not?False tears bring pain to those around you
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I want you to ask mods to announce there was a minor mod error at night start that we shouldn't talk about or whatever. just the confirmation there was something from their sides. this might affect the amount of townread I have about youIn post 16, inspectorscout wrote:Im town as well (although i really wanted to draw scum; so far ive only been scum once and i hate being town)
-they could be striking astral...wouldnt it be safer for you to leave it then?
-im tired of the karnos discussion as thats a horse beaten to death already. We'll see about that tomorrow, but i actually believe in mathblade being town. House is just tunneling for some reason.
-thats interesting...but i dont think SC was part of any pt?
-thats a rather drastic idea, and i think you might be wrong...the game would be unbalanced like that imo
But you could be right, my role makes sense for either alignment
Drixx joined matrix and karnos was aware since he can read pt's
Although it makes little sense to let vigs guess if they can see who is in the pt's...
I agree jae is town, obviously
Wanted to post this yesterday but internet died^
Yes, that was the mod error. It can't be fixed, but it will be publically announced at daystart, luckily.
- I have precautions about Asteral strike thingi. If they try to vig me they will probably fail and they might face a surprise.
- I think math vig shot is not proving anything about mathblade being town. looking at her closely she was on SC pushers who changed direction toward MC right after the unexplained vig eventhough she must know that is not making MC scum by itself. I expect more deducting from her. plus she suggested karnoos as secondary option but was against it a bit (the impact I got from jaread explanations) - I think she suggested hi but wanted the other suggestion copped even though she was calling karnoos scum on day 1 but never pushed him. Plus she delayed a confirmed scum lynch with a baseless inventor vig(?) which is when the outed scum claimed vig for no reason to make us think the scum vig will die with him (? or was it real).
I can see a clear attempt for gaining tones of town cred for a vig shot which is might just be scum suicide at this point cuase Karnoos is a publickly confirmed scum. plus that "not lynch , let u vig him" thing allows karnoos to use his action tonight which if he is really the spy one , he can use his abilities to determine asteral members current position to use another on target vig shot (which I made sure this will get confirmed tomorrow if happens with a plan explained in my message which I will send to one of you two)
- MC was a day vig of some kind and scum posses two killing abilities. thats all we saw so far so I'm going to assume its the case.(as I said I know there are multiple kills each night according to the wording of my role pm) so I don't beleive it was one shot matrix vig only. there must be something against asteral and maybe even the people in neither.
I beleive the roles were all there in game start, and people just signed up for them in drafting phase cuase all I can see so far can explained as natural roles.
I can see the possibility for scums to have extra abilities which they gain for just being scum.
afterall its just a theory at this point but I guess it makes sense.
Given the fact we all can enter and exit our pts at anytime as free actions and the way My role pm is written I am like 90% sure the day vig and the night vig are both regional limited (MC just viged SC in the main thread and thats why it works). and now that there is no day vig all the pt's are safe in days.
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The fact I'm outing this line of thought here is becuase this might be my last night in game anyway so I just want to make sure jaread gets my line of thought (as I think he is town obviously)
and I want to beleive your town, I'm just not that sure about it atm - I want to risk this and trust you this much -
the rest about what was my plan about saving asteral pt or testing if its getting spied by scum is on my pm which I will send to one of the other 5 members who are adventurning (in secon thoughts I want to expand this pool to make sure there is a good chance for my target to live.False tears bring pain to those around you
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it really fits if all the roles were drafted and their all natural on their ownIn post 16, inspectorscout wrote:Although it makes little sense to let vigs guess if they can see who is in the pt's...
but even if I'm wrong in that part I'm sure its still related to regions somehow cause that must be mirrored of the wording in my role pm. I am a massive setup designer trust me with this.False tears bring pain to those around you
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There was 0 reason for karnoos to claim the vig shot considering they have day chat as well
This is a plan obviously and a wifom going on
if math is the scum vig she is gaining towncred for being the one who is shooting karnoos + karnoos lived an extra day this way
I want to know from Jaread how exactly was her suggestion on copping karnoos, it wasn';t her only suggestion ; I as scum would do this gamble which gives free town cred
At the very least Math should not be considered town for the cop and the vig , she needs to get sorted asap.False tears bring pain to those around you
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not sure if its ok to publickly talk about this matters.In post 21, inspectorscout wrote:
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I want you to ask mods to announce there was a minor mod error at night start that we shouldn't talk about or whatever. just the confirmation there was something from their sides. this might affect the amount of townread I have about you
but I hope they are ok with announcing it in main thread during the nightFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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is this karnoos claim as well?In post 20, inspectorscout wrote:The vig was done because karnos could jailbreak (we still dont know how it works) so we just decided that mathblade should ue the gun tonight, sinc it completely kills karnos AND we get a flip.
so during day 2 he claimed : matrix vig , pt spies jailbreaker
this won't add up I'm sure there is a reason and a plan for him.
another possibility : he is the asteral vig as well and he wanted to live till tonight to use that vig shot as well.False tears bring pain to those around you
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I know and I won't take your actions alignment indicative ; this helps me in sorting out the events and putting puzzel peaces together. thanks lovely modsFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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waiting for the second part of adventure <3False tears bring pain to those around you
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delaying in removing a confscum from game is bad.
I dont trust an imaginary vig over that but I see your pov so thats fine.False tears bring pain to those around you
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its safer to change the place unpredictably. they need to know where are you in order to kill youIn post 31, inspectorscout wrote:Fun fact im now alone in the matrix; it might be safer to leave it as well?False tears bring pain to those around you
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ok then I might be wrong about herIn post 33, JaeReed wrote:So they hinted very strongly that karnos was the better check without directly telling me what to do.
still I'm sure the way karnoos claimed means they needed for him for another night and I'm afraid of what will happen tonight.
I am ok with observ obviously VOTE: ObserveFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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actually Jaread confirm that you didn't join any regions for the night. this way I will guarantee that you will live tonight . assuming inter is town we might prevent the night kill cuase your a logical choice for them.
inter dont forget to tell your night region in your message to whoever your sending it.False tears bring pain to those around you
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its written on my role name lol I am a protective of some kind obviously.In post 41, inspectorscout wrote:And since yume very obviously softed doc twice or so, i wonder why you are still alive.
Drixx was still alive if he didn't join matrix pt that night. this is why region knowledge matters.
guess yume was suspicious becuase of her lurking and thats what kept her alive (plus party members had priority) honestly I'm the best night kill for scum atm but I have no control over that one .
I ask you to send your last region to someone you trust the most. this is important info you need to tell before your death.False tears bring pain to those around you
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Jaread will be conftown if that vig goes through. so he is high proiority town member to keep alive.
if PV is town he is in danger of asteral kill as well. house push on math means they will keep both math and house (and prob abr alive) if all three are town. I have no read on house and a little bit scum read on vedith. I didn't like his activity on day 1 , his trolling and the way he reacted to MC vig.False tears bring pain to those around you
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they will probably sabotage an adventure and kill in the other so I want to wait till I see how stuff will go throughFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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doing what againFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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so math is a protective?In post 48, JaeReed wrote:I'm not dying tonight. Firstly I'm too valuable to scum kept alive. Secondly math will be on me tonight.
this is bad
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-> 6 people on two missions : SooperDetective , me , Jaeread / PV , House , Daenerys and DragonsIn post 47, inspectorscout wrote:Pedit1: do you think there is a mole on the missions? If so, who?
Pedit2: saying what i want to say right before i say it
You did that in hunger games too
It was one of the reasons i neighborized you there
I want to beleive PV is town cuase it makes the whole equation easier , jaeread is town cuase of that cop check , I have a townread on you
As i said I have high doubts about vedith (and house is in that slot right now) , D&D is hard to read for me atm. I need some information or flips for that
so I think there is a high chance for scum to sabotage this quest and kill in the second one which makes PV a good kill shot - assuming he is town.
-> I am what I am.False tears bring pain to those around you
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In post 48, JaeReed wrote:I'm not dying tonight. Firstly I'm too valuable to scum kept alive. Secondly math will be on me tonight.
I'm sure ABR told mod told them scum sabotaged the mission right after they passed all the three parts and before the dice role.In post 52, inspectorscout wrote:Do you think scum can sabotage a mission they are not on?
I think that both of you are town and we passed the first part already
I doubt this mission will be messed with, but we'll see.False tears bring pain to those around you
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but ehh I see. its reasonable to assume they needed to be on the mission for sabotaging.
D&D was on that mission hmmmFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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why people has town reads on D&D?
I was making an iso table of events which is halfway complete , I cant see any alignemnet indicative anything from D&DFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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this is not making me think they were town.In post 56, inspectorscout wrote:There wasnt a single decent agrument against them yet they were almost lynched
I don't like the way people changed their targets in 180 oposite direction there.
I don't know SC alignment but I think there is obvious scum in the sudden MC pushers.False tears bring pain to those around you
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think about it
SC was already dead , what was easier than to blame MC and get the killer killed as well knowing their flip will remain secret. the reasoning for stop the wagon on SC were all BS , and scumreading a day vig for not annoucing the shot before doing it seems easy and opportunisticFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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Karnos , mathblade and D&D voted SC and beside D&D both stoppoed it so sudden so soon after joining there. (math never voted or just casted doubt? I need to recheck this)
mathblade was on of the people who voted MC right after the vig shot in the wave of angry blood thirsty votersFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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I was investigating that before tonight adventure , Thats not saying I'm scumreading math now. I'm .. doubtfulFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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KC needs to die though , lurking is her scum metaFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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and pushing making no sense directions. it might seem innocent but her fangs biteFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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I assume math cleared herself to jaread last night so I want to trust jaread on reading her.
can you two please tell me your top three desire for protection tonight?False tears bring pain to those around you
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I forgot a little detail about my role. need to check this with mods before doing anything elseFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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If scum can sabotage missions they might have spies as well that is not wise in first sightFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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oh btw pv was not lieing about the abr leaving time issues. his "I guessed flavor will be like that" seems really scummy. why he didn't tell anyone else about his flavor guess.False tears bring pain to those around you
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I like to know jareads view too.
for now
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who told karnos can jailbreak?
was this a part of his claim?False tears bring pain to those around you
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@mod if a player can scape the prison himself (not anyone else) and there are no other mechanics letting anyone else scape, will the rest of prisoned players flip?False tears bring pain to those around you
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oh I think its good to tell this : I believe house claim 100% because of a mod based info I have.False tears bring pain to those around you
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I still think that has nothing to do with alignments thoughFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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ok I can't heal matrix pt at all this is so fucked upFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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so stop having a death wish jareadIn post 83, Bold Vote Scientist wrote:
Yes.In post 80, Frozen Angel wrote:@mod if a player can scape the prison himself (not anyone else) and there are no other mechanics letting anyone else scape, will the rest of prisoned players flip?
I guess scums know this as well, if they dont thats good for us!False tears bring pain to those around you
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so if two players scape the rest will flip and all the possible other roles letting escape will be disabled for the rest of the game?In post 86, Bold Vote Scientist wrote:Read the rules. A maximum of two players will escape after being publicly sent.False tears bring pain to those around you
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@mod so if two players scape the rest will flip and all the possible other roles letting escape will be disabled for the rest of the game?False tears bring pain to those around you
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ok so this something we can plan to achieve
we need to make two people scapeFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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actually this means your role is not negative utility AT ALL. its the thing that might release the game from the current situation ; if you die we loose our chance for triggering it.False tears bring pain to those around you
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@mod we're waiting for the third part of adventure as wellFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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That girl in the image is my character?!! :OFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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but thats not really helping this is it?In post 93, Bold Vote Scientist wrote:but they still had to make this look like an accident so no one would attempt to rediscover the tracking poisonFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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I agreed , I guess that vig might be able to shoot in jail as well. (regional limited)In post 94, inspectorscout wrote:And yes FA, but that means we have to lynch jae first
That gives little info
He can be killed while in jail i think
And it gives scum a free nightkill
maybe the different regions vigs are in different people hands.False tears bring pain to those around you
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what?!!False tears bring pain to those around you
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I wasn't questioning the mod.
I was just trying to say making a video narrative is not hiding this from the rest of the world as it was mission objective
and about jae I agree , I am just saying he doesn't need to die for us to get the flips , even if he dies we won't get any closer to get the flips.False tears bring pain to those around you
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the only thing that gets us closer to getting flips is him getting jailed and scape which I never said he should do it.
I was just saying his death has no impact on clearing up the jail.False tears bring pain to those around you
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:OIn post 103, Bold Vote Scientist wrote:
It would have taken too long to edit the face but generally speaking yes.In post 95, Frozen Angel wrote:That girl in the image is my character?!! :O
OMFG what the fuck am I!
I love me in this game!False tears bring pain to those around you
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wait
the poison we got is a "mass region tracker" :OFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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@Jaread what do you think? what is the similarities and differences between this operation and the one you did night 1?False tears bring pain to those around you
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I'm tempted to vote mediaFalse tears bring pain to those around you
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