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Jason kill implies one scum on wagon, one scum off.

Shattiel likely had scum on it, and if it hadn’t multiple, Jason wouldn’t have been the death. Hell, it’s more likely no scum were on Shatt than 2 scum.

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I honestly think that implies heavily one of AP and Maxous is scum, and that’s where the lynch should be today.

I’ve been semi trolling this game so I could end game. I’m here. I solve this game today.

Scum are going to be forced to kill me tonight or they lose. Simple as that.

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I might not get it exactly right, but I’m going to at least start the right path.

Clean slate for everyone. Zero town reads. Zero scum reads. I’ll give this game the time it needs tomorrow likely.

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Hmm....let’s see. Who should die today...

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Yeah, that doesn’t clear you at all. You have it flipped. Maxous can’t be scum unless you are scum, but you can be scum without Maxous.

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I’m starting to think it’s Garmr/AP.

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Yeah, that doesn’t clear you at all. You have it flipped. Maxous can’t be scum unless you are scum, but you can be scum without Maxous.

Hmm I don't think I try to steer you off your Maxous tunnel unless he's my partner but I suppose you're right. Though me being scum probably just means AP is town.

I haven’t called Maxous scum since like Day 1-Day 2.

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I achieved a personal victory from lynching Shattiel.

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Flawed misrep case, AP.

What are my reads? This ain’t my scum game, I ain’t being overly consistent.

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You know, he kept saying my reads are bad, and I was believing it, but when I actually got down to it...what exactly

are

my reads?

I don’t really know...I went back and forth on literally everyone in yesterday’s day phase. I was town reading Garmr yesterday, no worries I just thought he was scum.

I’ve went back and forth so many times, without committing to a read, but yeah, the nonexistent reads are apparently shit.

I’m actually a little surprised it took me this long to realize that.

That’s actually something scummy rather than the “yeah, let’s lynchh here” mindset I’ve had this game.

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Something weird just happened. I’ve been off and away from this game, and just kind of here, but now...I’m here. Like, I can see clearly now the rain is gone level of here now.

Let’s go, FLAVOR GAME SOLVE MODE.

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Also, 19 people, likely 4 scum, right? 2 flipped, 9 players left, we’re 2-7 meaning we have have 2 more mislynches to go.

AP bringing up the “looks like town’s headed towards a loss” mindset is just inaccurate. We’re doing pretty solid.

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xx2008(3):

Nero Cain

;RCEnigma;

Nosferatu

Flubbernugget

(10):

Completely Trustworthy;Gamma Emerald;

AP;

DVa;ofrhz;Performer;profii;Carcalilly

;Garmr;

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Ofhrz

(4):

Flubbernugget

;Maxous;xx2008;

Sephiroth

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NoLynch(1): ;

shattiel

Not Voting(1): Saudade;

This was the Flubber wagon. We have 8 of the 10 people on it as flipped green. Damn. For us to believe that there aren’t no scum bussing Flubber, it’s Flubber, people likely bussed, but if we are to believe that we have to believe there would be 2 scum who did back to back votes on XX and ofhrz. I don’t think that happens to protect Flubber.
There’s bussing happening on this wagon, so one of AP/Garmr should definitely be the lynch today. The fact that Nero was pushing Xx the way he was gives me a town read on XX. Doesn’t look like S/s

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xx2008(1):Maxous;

Sephiroth

(1):AP;

Nosferatu

(1): RCEnigma;

AP(1):

Carcalilly

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Completly Trustworthy

(1):

profii

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profii

(9):

Flavor Leaf

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Nero Cain

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Performer;ofrhz;Completely Trustworthy

;Garmr;

Gamma Emerald

;Saudade;

Nosferatu

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Not Voting(3):

Shattiel

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Sephiroth

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Are we to believe that Nero was the only one who joined into Profii? Especially that early.on. Once again, Garmr finds his way to the spot. Interesting.

Saudade is the only other person unflipped there, which makes his not voting Day 1 separate. AP is up there pushing Sephiroth, a flipped greenie. This might matter. Right now I’m thinking 2 of the 3 of Garmr/AP/Saudade is looking like scum.

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xx2008(2):

Nero Cain

;Maxous;

Saudade(3):xx2008;RCEnigma;AP;

Nero Cain

(3):

Shattiel;Gamma Emerald

;Garmr;

RCEnigma(2):

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;Saudade;

Not Voting(4):

ofrhz;Completely Trustworthy;Nosferatu;Carcalilly;

So once again Garmr is the last one unflipped on a wagon.

With Nero up top on xx, I expect the other scum is Saudade or on the Saudade wagon, which again comes back to AP.

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Saudade(3):

Shattiel

;AP;Maxous;

Shattiel

(5):Saudade;Garmr;

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ofrhz

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RCEnigma(1):xx2008;

Here we are again. Garmr on the wagon.

Xx, Maxous, and RCE have been going back and forth and are connected, so I feel like scum are keeping them alive for that reason. Here I can’t tell if multiple scum would be on Shatt or not. We were switching all over the place, so it’s very possible there are 2.

Final note:
Garmr is very much scum, and then the last scum is AP or Saudade.

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Maxous and xx haven’t been on a single wagon.

I’m going to lean town on this, but near the late game, this can potentially be something. But i mostly feelvlike they’re a get out of jail free card kinda thing for scum.

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@FL: You won't let us lynch Saudade any more than you would have let us lynch Creature in that game THAT's what I'm talking about.

I’d have let y’all lynch Creature after that Day. I was coming after Creature that game myself, but I died. Creature knew I was about to hard tunnel him.

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@FL: You won't let us lynch Saudade any more than you would have let us lynch Creature in that game THAT's what I'm talking about.

This is why you’re giving scum vibes.

I clearly just stated the scum team was Garmr + Saudade or Garmr + You

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Yeah, I don’t think I even pushed Profii that hard, tbh. I just started it and it took off. Definitely another scum later on that wagon. So Garmr or Saudade.

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Saudade
AP
FL
Maxous
Garmr
RCEnigma
Xx2000

Oh, we’re at 7.

Means we have one mislynch.

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We lynch within Garm, AP, Saudade today, and I think that’s my order.

I actually think that lynch path wins us the game.

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So?

That was very much a political read. I told you guys from the beginning I was mimicking a Not Mafia like style so I could live to end game and be able to game solve.

I’m a late game town player. :shrug:

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Now it seems like you’re shielding Saudade, but I’m not sure if that’s you trying to potential tie yourself together with Saudade now.

I could see you town, I could see you as scum.

I don’t necessarily see you as scum with Saudade, but I’m not seeing anything major come of the way you act towards Saudade, so I don’t think it’s out of the realm of yours or his scum game, but again, I don’t necessarily think that’s the path.

However, with my push on Garmr, you aren’t necessarily chainsawing me...since you are attacking me by way of discrediting...let’s make up our own term for it.

Let’s call it Hatcheting. You are Hatcheting me, because you are chopping down the tree that I have been growing with a hatchet, and this tree is the Garmr is Scum by VCA tree, and you are Hatcheting this tree with your incessant aimless discrediting of me even though I have obviously done a complete rehaul of my thought process.

This indicates pointlessness on your part, because as town, what would be your purpose of doing this. What necessitates you to attempt to discredit. What is your goal from all of this? It feels like your goal should be to have me reevaluate my reads, but I have already done that, so it’s literally an act of pointlessness on your part, which is why I think it’s coming from a scum POV.

I could see you being hung up on something as town, but personally I just feel like you’re scum hiding behind a facade and lost track of what you truly were doing.

VOTE: Garmr

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2655 is more Hatcheting.

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Let's just get this game done with

Not a bad game. This is actually where the meat of the game really starts, in my opinion. We’re to the main course. Everything else was just the hors d’ouerves and appetizers. We’re at the side dishes now, and soon we’ll get to our entree. If we get to a lylo situation with only 1 mafia left, now that’s dessert. That’s when players truly can shine.

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@Scum - I dare you to take me to lylo with you.

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Let's just get this game done with

This implies AP is likely bussing, tbh.

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Trying to sneak off without even getting to the entree. Pfft.

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Actually this day phase and next if we hit scum is where players truly can shine. Not 3p lylo.

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Ah. That’s a scummy post by Maxous.

I don’t think it was bussing. I was actively against XX. Nero tried pushing a counterwagon to get off his wagon, and even when there wasn’t a wagon on him.

I also explained my thoughts on the AP/Saudade pairing.

And you have zero reasoning for why Garmr is town. He’s the only one who has been on every single wagon, and ALL these wagons basically have zero red flips thus far, and only one or two unflipped on each. Garmr is one of those every time.

Garmr is 9 out of 10 times scum every time in this position.

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It’s scummy, but I don’t think maxous is scum, if that wasn’t clear.

I liked the AP target, which doesn’t make sense as scum here considering who else’s he stated as town.

It’s likely Garmr and AP.

They’ll likely crossvote.

Go through Garmr first, however.

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VOTE: Ap
I still don't think disloyal roleblocker works in this scenario.

This is a bus or fake obvious scum/scum.

Either way, it shows Garmr is scum.

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Y’all can lynch AP when I’m dead tomorrow.

Garmr today.

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I have never disagreed with a stance moreso than Maxous’s town read on Garmr.

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The only way Garmr is town, is if Maxous now knows for a fact Garmr is town because Maxous is scum. I think Maxous is probably town.

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Flavour no offence but your points are shit. Jus tbe honest and say you're POEing (even through you are wrong.)

And this is why it’s scum. Even if it isn’t a correct read. I didn’t have points. I was basing it strictly off of VCA.

It’s not even POE.

You are literally on multiple wagons as the only unflipped on wagons that should have scum on them.

Sure, it’s not everything, if maybe one wagon was up and suspicious you’re right, but when there’s multiple. Nah.

Also, on top of that, the reason I know you are scum, is because scum doesnt not jump on this. Even if AP is scum, that shows why scum doesn’t not jump at this opportunity. This doesn’t mean AP is scum, but it’s not a point for or against AP.

I actually put work in, and had a well thought out case when I’ve been trolling the entire game until now. Scum does not pass up that opportunity if they’re town.

WAGONOMICS!!!!

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I’m a presence who can push out a lynch at almost any moment in the game, scum know this. They’ve abused this this game already. I’m confirmed town so scum get to abuse it even harder. (Saudade, solid move if you’re scum, you were necessary for my gambit.)

When we are down to the wire, and if scum can get a successful mislynch today then they go to 5p lylo tomorrow which is much better for scum than 3p lylo, for anyone here to believe Garmr is town they have to believe Scum who’s been abusing my IC status since the very beginning of the game to further along wagons because of my ability to get people to follow, they’re just going to wildly stop on a player that was decently lowkey town read for no real good reason? No. Scum does not do that.

Garmr is lockscum.

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@xx - people bus Flubber there because it looks like he’s going down. I actually feel like one scum there is enough, so that might weaken a Garmr/AP case, but don’t want to write off AP.

The fact that AP is chosen to be the counterwagon shows that Garmr is likely scum and actually gives AP a few townie points.

But let’s see where the wagons go from here.

Still my money is on both garmr and AP atm.

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xx2008(1):Maxous;

Sephiroth

(1):AP;

Nosferatu

(1): RCEnigma;

AP(1):

Carcalilly

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Completly Trustworthy

(1):

profii

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profii

(9):

Flavor Leaf

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Nero Cain

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Performer;ofrhz;Completely Trustworthy

;Garmr;

Gamma Emerald

;Saudade;

Nosferatu

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Not Voting(3):

Shattiel

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Sephiroth

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Are we to believe that Nero was the only one who joined into Profii? Especially that early.on. Once again, Garmr finds his way to the spot. Interesting.

Saudade is the only other person unflipped there, which makes his not voting Day 1 separate. AP is up there pushing Sephiroth, a flipped greenie. This might matter. Right now I’m thinking 2 of the 3 of Garmr/AP/Saudade is looking like scum.

0 chance I am able to successfully push through my bud Profii without at least one more scum being on this wagon.

Like, Nero joined on early. There’s one more in here. At least.

Garmr today, AP or Saudade tomorrow.

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See, the Garmr push even outs ScumSaudade.

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Im going to smash AP flavor not gonna lie
I dont townread garmr either but the ap guy pings me in the worst places

that was queue for you to convince me otherwise not deflect by saying that I'm scum

I actually still gut read you as town, tbh. But for clarity’s sake, I was speaking the scum term.

I’ve already explained my Garmr scum reasonings. There’s literally plenty of reasons why he’s scum posted in the past couple of pages.

I haven’t seen a single reason explaining why he is town.

I’m through trying to convince people Garmr is scum. If people think i’m wrong, convince me I’m wrong.

I am not wrong, though. And I feel if people looked into it trying to clear Garmr, they’d see there are no reasons that he should actually be cleared right now.

The fact that i’m Pushing this this hard and scum haven’t gone with it shows that Garmr is scum. That’s the basic reasoning. There are plenty of layers of reasoning why Garmr is scum. Sure, individually these reasons don’t make him scum, but add these layers together and it’s a perfect recipe for a Scummy Parfait

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I'll take a reconsideration of Garmr tomorrow if i must but i'm sticking with AP.
I want him gone, i've wanted him gone for days.

I let a strong townread Shattiel get lynched yesterday and i don't want to do that again.

And this is absolutely why I’m against this.

Nope. I’m the confirmed town. And I’ve started to actually play this game.

AP wagon can go through ANY TIME. There’s loads of reasons coming from everywhere.

I will not be around to push Garmr later.

I will fight this hard. AP can go at a later date. That’s totally cool. Garmr will NOT be taken at a later date, and that’s why he’s today.

If I’m going down, I’m taking Garmr with me.

Scum only don’t kill me because they think I’ll push a townie. I’ve been baiting this literally all game.

Garmr is scum. AP ‘might’ be scum.

Garmr is today.

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God wagonomics is such an awful, lazy analysis tool

Not when I do it. People just suck at it and don’t take into account active playing against it, and just go surface level.

This just makes you come across like you know it wrecks you and a scum partner.

The fact you haven’t sheeped here, which is the strongest case I’ve had all game is extremely suspicious.

Nobody has even attempted to explain any reasoning why i could be wrong. Nobody has explained any reasoning why they are more likely correct than I am.

I’m willing to take these things into account.

Y’all just being lazy and taking the easy route, which guarantees a scum win 85% of the time. I made that up, but it’s a high amount.

Do the work, show the work. This is late game, people. There’s actual stuff to analyze and reanalyze.

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Actually discuss things, don’t just go “this guy’s town. This guy’s scum because...I THINK IT. Idk why.”

Figure out WHY you think that, and explain it. This helps EVERYONE. Well, except for scum.

If you think I’m incorrect, explain why, not just say “this is bad”. Because any actual analysis and thoughts is good for town at this point. There is literally zero reason to just state things are bad at this point in the game. Even just simply bringing it up is good for town.

Anyone who does other wise is Anti-town. Now put it together people, let’s do the work, and let’s win this damn game.

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I’m probably not going to budge on ScumGarmr, because it’s clear as day that he’s scum, however if you think I’m incorrect, I’d like people to explain why they think that. I’ll likely have a response to it, and we can create some discussion about that.

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Like play the game. Why sign up for a mafia game if you don’t plan on playing it? This is the best and most complex part of the game. We actually get to analyze rather than just hope for the best and socialize like in early game.

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Honestly, I go after Maxous before I go after AP or Saudade this day.

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I haven’t given any thought process up until this game for you to agree with. I flat out told people I was channeling my inner NM this game.

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Ok I been thinking. That we should leave ap and performer slot off the lynch table day since they will sort themselves out. Going to be honest I got kinda bored of this game.

Lol.

Yeah, pretty sure it’s just Garmr and AP scum team.

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I probably have some bias here but I still think maxous is town. His early reads were similar to mine day 1 and I have a soft spot for that but his latter reads for day 1 branched away from mine and were quite different so I don't feel like he was suckering me in.


The pace is slow this game and there's a couple of people who feel silent. Going to be a hypocrite here and say look at the number of unvotes.


VOTE: Profii

Maybe FL wasn't making the play I thought he made yesterday :p

VOTE: Nero

Nero was creature slot right enough said
VOTE: Nero

VOTE: profii

VOTE: Nero Cain
choo choo

Yeah, so Garmr brought up pushing the slot all game, but they didn’t throw down a vote until here. They went from Profii, to nero, then back to Profii real fast, and then a nero thing was brought up, and he literally goes “Choo choo”
Implying that it’s just him jumping on the train.

Also, ISO’s suggest AP/Garmr are just S/S, and they’re bussing right now.

Even if that’s not true, I actually think Maxous is town because that’s a weird play for scum to use in the situation. Mixed in with RCE’s actions, that likely means Maxous is town.

Xx has been a scape goat for scum for days, and I kind of just don’t think he makes a lot of the posts he does as scum. They aren’t newScum posts, they’re like newtown playing posts that come off looking bad.

Leaves Garmr, AP, Saudade, RCEnigma.

And I think that is the likelihood of scumminess.

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I haven’t given any thought process up until this game for you to agree with. I flat out told people I was channeling my inner NM this game.

Not regarding your thought processess, just the blind pushes (Maxous, Profii) specifically.

Yeah, town gambit. I really just was testing to see how many people would blindly follow me.

I didn’t put any effort into this game until this day phase. I was trying to play up a VI persona and have people forget that I’m actually a late game town powerhouse, which was easy considering a failed mason gambit because i got killed previous to the start of this game, but even in that game I hard tunneled onto a scum Day 1.

Played pretty well, I think. I achieved my goal of making it near late game as confirmed town.

Do you know how long it’s been since I’ve made it without getting night killed? A LONG TIME in a non newbie game.

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To everyone else, yeah, I don’t have anything else to say. I’m gonna revel in my conf town for a bit longer, and then imma come in so hard.

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I was actually more channeling my Boonskiies personality this game rather than NM.

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@Saudade - Would you like to do the honors of hammering Garmr?

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Nah, you said Garmr hasn’t done anything scummy with a VCA like that.

That makes it even scummier.

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And I disagree. The Creature/Garmr/Nero thing was S/S. They never even hard went after each other. Look at the Nero votes he did. Very rarely, and moved off as soon as he could to help the next wagons.

There dialogue is incredibly S/S with the flips we have.

I agree on RCE for the most part.

You’re either scum or have a blind spot for ScumGarmr because there’s no reason those posts should have you thinking he’s townie.

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To be fair, Maxous, I have been stating Garmr/AP likeliest scum pairing

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I never disagreed with your AP read, I just wanted Garmr today. Because we lynch AP today, if I die, Garmr doesn’t necessarily get lynched.

If we lynch Garmr today, I die, well, AP is still likely to get flipped.

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Yeah, but mixed in with other wagons, Occam’s Razor just says Garmr is scum.

There’s a reason this day has stagnated. It’s because Garmr can’t really defend himself, and his scum buddy knows that it doesn’t look good for him.

Anyone who’s been defending Garmr here is probably town, tbh.

Maxous/XX is town.

One of RCE/Saudade/AP is the last scum. Occam’s Razor again just states Garmr/AP as scum. AP is dead tomorrow regardless of flips, probably.

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Interesting. Interesting.

I’m going to have to do some analyzing. Occam’s Razor suggested AP, but I feel like that was a scum plan.

I am leaning Maxous, tbh. I forget why he was mechanically town.

XX doesn’t no kill here. He just doesn’t. Xx is town for sure.if he’s scum, damn, he’s playing outside his scum range, or at least what I presume of it.

First of all, it’s mass claim time.

If you haven’t claimed yet, it’s time to.

If you have claimed already, I’d like actions from everyone on each night.

I have an idea of where this game is at, and I’m pretty sure I can solve it today.

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The no kill is solid play, and it shows that scum was keeping me alive so I’d push through a mislynch.

If that’s AP WIFOM, that’s some solid WIFOM.

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I think i want to lynch RCEnigma today, AP roleblocks Maxous if RCEnigma doesn’t actually clear him, or Saudade if it does.

However, I don’t think Saudade or XX are actually scum here. I don’t feel like scumSaudade hammers Garmr there like that then uses that as an excuse for not being scum. I feel like scum bussed, yeah, but still.

AP feels kind of like a townie that knows he’s a scumfuck, but isn’t actually scum.

I could be wrong, and I think lynching AP still gives a chance at winning for town, but I think I want RCE today.

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Damn. I’m in a rough spot. My perspective as the conf town skews my reads ebcause people act differently towards me.

Can’t get over the Hatcheting that AP was throwing at me yesterday, either.

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Aight. RCE, can you claim your role and actions taken again?

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Oops. I pulled an AP.

AP, let’s hear all your stuff.

Saudade next.

Then Maxous.
Then XX

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Just claim. Everyone should be claiming.

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I did like a day ago or two? go over my iso

We’re having everyone claim even if they already did. In clear concise posts. Like RCE did last page. He claimed previously too. Clarity’s sake.

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Okay, next is XX. I’ll be away until tonight, or I’d do some analysis.

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Yeah, it’s just RCE probably

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VOTE: RCEnigma

I just don’t really buy the 2 identical town JOATS, then a third separate one.

Plus, Scum likely have a nice power role for their 4th slot.

XX is town. I can’t see him as scum here.
I don’t really see Maxous as scum based on the way they defended Garmr yesterday.
Xx was a mislynch candidate, Saudade/AP were the prime suspects, And then myself and Maxous had stated we were thinking it was just AP/Garmr.

RCE had all the reason in the world to keep both Maxous and myself alive.

Block Saudade, sure. I’d be okay with a Maxous Block if RCE doesn’t actually clear him, but I feel like it’s just RCE.

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I would lynch AP before I lynched Saudade, though.

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Gut is screaming Saudade is just town to me. Like I’m actively looking to find a reason that he’s scum, but I just can’t see it. Sure, dead thread can probably see it if he is scum, but I’m actively trying to look at it from a non pocketed point of view, but he just isn’t pushing a scum agenda anywhere. He’s just town, I feel.

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If Saudade ain't scum we lost this anyway, because I don't -for the life of me- know who is.

Nah. It ain’t Saudade.

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Roleblock him tonight.

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I will 100% go AP over Saudade. That’s actually a scummy play by AP to go Saudade because by blocking Saudade tonight, there’s literally no way a kill could go through.

VOTE: AP

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We deal with a PR today. Not Saudade.

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It’s literally just AP or RCEnigma.

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AP(4):RCEnigma;Completely Trustworthy;Performer;DVa;


Saying there’s no scum here? It’s RCE or AP.

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Vote Count 1.6

xx2008(0):

Performer(0):

Carcalilly(2):AP;profii;

Maxous(0):

Garmr(0):

Saudade

Inferno390

(0):

Creature(0):

Sephiroth(0):Creature;

Nosferatu(1):FA_Q2;

FA_Q2(0):

AP(1):Maxous;

Shattiel

DS

(3):Flubbernugget;Garmr;RCEnigma;

Completly Trustworthy(1):Nosferatu;

Flavor Leaf(0)

:

profii(0):

Flubbernugget(5):Saudade;ofrhz;Carcalilly;DVa;Completely Trustworthy;

DVa(0):

RCEnigma(0):

ofrhz(1):Sephiroth;

NoLynch(0):

Not Voting(4):xx2008;Performer;Shattiel;

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With 19 alive it is 10 to lynch.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2018-11-11 11:11:11) or when a lynch has been achieved.

Sephiroth is V/LA.

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xx2008(0):

Performer(0):

Carcalilly(1):AP;

Maxous(0):Nosferatu;

Garmr(0):

Saudade

Inferno390

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Sephiroth(4):Creature;profii;

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Nosferatu(1):FA_Q2;

FA_Q2(0):

AP(1):Maxous;

Shattiel

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(3):Flubbernugget;Garmr;RCEnigma;

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profii(0):

Flubbernugget(5):ofrhz;Carcalilly;DVa;Completely Trustworthy;Performer;

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RCEnigma(0):

ofrhz(1):Sephiroth;

NoLynch(1):Shattiel;

Not Voting(1):xx2008;

With 19 alive it is 10 to lynch.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2018-11-11 11:11:11) or when a lynch has been achieved.

Sephiroth is V/LA.
FA_Q2 is getting force-replaced for getting 2 prods in one game day.

It’s Saudade. Wagonomics of the all town wagon on Flubber.

VOTE: Saudade

I expect to die and then just leave it to you guys if I’ve just been correct on Saudade.

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It was enough to lose lynch pocketed mindset.

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We lose to xx as scum 9/10 times here I think. It could be either saudade or AP fmpov and if it's AP in this position he is in a spot where he has to nk again or flip on Maxous which is my confirmed town. So if it is he just loses tonorrow.

False. He'd have to flip on you.

Saudade then you.

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We lose to xx as scum 9/10 times here I think. It could be either saudade or AP fmpov and if it's AP in this position he is in a spot where he has to nk again or flip on Maxous which is my confirmed town. So if it is he just loses tonorrow.

False. He'd have to flip on you.

Saudade then you.

It's also setup pretty well for him to do so. lynch Saudade, kill Maxous. Then have me choose between you and him, with XX likely following. It's not an easy win path, but I think its ScumAP's best chance at winning.

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Not gonna lie, this AtE is working on me.

I really have a strong gut feeling Saudade is just town.

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But I’ve been pocketed by him in end game before.

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VOTE: AP

Like, I know it’s him, but I can’t actively prove it, and I’m trying too hard to use logic.

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AP today, i’m sticking with the Garmr/AP theory. If I’m wrong, I’m likely the death tonight anyways (i could see XX, actually) and we can deal with it tomorrow.

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Maxous, if I die, and it’s an RCE-Saudade showdown, please start from a clean slate to get to your conclusion.

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It’s in you, AP, and RCE. So from your perspective, it’s gotta be AP or RCE.

I expect scum to have realized this triangle by now, so that’s why I’m leaning AP Zoe RCE over Saudade.

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Over not Zoe.

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OK. So it looks like it's a done deal. Please lynch Saudade next. kthxbye

Idk if I like this, though. I don’t think Saudade’s scum.

I agree I might be hard pocketed, but I think it’s worth bringing up still.

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I agree, XX. I could see him as town playing that plan and getting excited about it, however what’s been killing me all game is RCE’s JOAT abilities are vastly different than the other two JOATS, who were identical, and his abilities are kind of all over the place. It seemed like he just pick and chose which abilities sounded best and would get him out of trouble.

It’s RCE if it’s not AP here.

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Woah...I played pretty decently.

Saudade, I got yo back. Don’t worry!!

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At least the last few days.