STELLARIS MAFIA - [Mafia Win]

[Tsuchinoko]

And why are you trying to influence his read on you? Like you said, it's his read on you, and by your logic, you have no business influencing it to suit yourself either.

Because thats how mafia works.
Thats how towns win games.
By addressing other concerns that other slots have, and then working together with other townreads to lynch the scumfucks.
That is how mafia works.
I want to win, and I realize that fighting back varsoon on a read that is probably wrong which his actions makes sense due to a friendly neighbour, is probably not a good idea. So I am willing to hear out what concerns he has, and address them, because maybe, I can get a better read on his alignment that way. If his concerns are made-up bullshit? Well then guess what, he's probably scum.
If his concerns are genuine actual concerns that a villager can have, then guess what, he's probably town.

[Varsoon]

If FB is town, he's basically a town dayvig.
If FB is scum, scum gain little to nothing for a bus there and given the tempo of response to the D1 lynch, they can probably get away not pushing him.
Makes plenty of sense to me.

How is scum supposed to know he has more shots of what he can do?
Like I get that, but also the inverse is true. If FB is town, he is basically a town dayvig, and if scum are SCARED of that, they should be opting to removing that right away.
if FB is scum, they could plan how they want to bus him and then try to get cred off of that, keep in mind that his flip will bring tons of cred because as you're saying, its a powerful role.

This is acting like scum can't just remove a role they are scared of by killing it.
They wouldn't get as much cred off a bus because
1. I already called it out
2. It's an unpopular wagon so forcing a bus there would be awkward.

If scum doesn't know his shots, their best job against a town FB is to avoid/buddy, hope he lands any other shots elsewhere, and kill him if he seems like a thread down the line because right now he's more a liability to town and worth keeping around from their PoV, I gotta figure.

[Joan of Arc]

And why are you trying to influence his read on you? Like you said, it's his read on you, and by your logic, you have no business influencing it to suit yourself either.

Every time you post I recognize you have less and less of a fundamental understanding of what mafia is, what is going on in the game around you, and what it means to play mafia.

Look, I've already said this: but either help me improve or stay the hell out of my conversations. Because these jabs at my integrity won't help me improve.

[Tsuchinoko]

Also, you never responded to this

Did you miss the part where I plan to snipe Transcendence and use it on him, thus making his alignment known to me?

I didn't respond because I have no idea what you mean by snipe here and I don't really want to ask because it could end up being role related.

[Shadowlesscloud]

I'm back! Worth rereading?

P-edit skimmed and I see people voting out of the firestarter/meph slots when atleast one is confirmed scum, what

Yo explain this.

Explain which part?

I am at work so if I don't have to, I'd rather save rereading until I get home

And didn't you claim Mepho was scum trying to strip abilities away from players?

It's either your lying as scum going for a second ML or Meph is scum. Or you both are. (Prob not)

[Joan of Arc]

And why are you trying to influence his read on you? Like you said, it's his read on you, and by your logic, you have no business influencing it to suit yourself either.

Because thats how mafia works.
Thats how towns win games.
By addressing other concerns that other slots have, and then working together with other townreads to lynch the scumfucks.
That is how mafia works.
I want to win, and I realize that fighting back varsoon on a read that is probably wrong which his actions makes sense due to a friendly neighbour, is probably not a good idea. So I am willing to hear out what concerns he has, and address them, because maybe, I can get a better read on his alignment that way. If his concerns are made-up bullshit? Well then guess what, he's probably scum.
If his concerns are genuine actual concerns that a villager can have, then guess what, he's probably town.

So pick one: either both of us are allowed to influence his reads, or neither one of us is allowed to.

[Shadowlesscloud]

Why are people so quick to go to personal attacks here, jeez

[Joan of Arc]

Also, you never responded to this

Did you miss the part where I plan to snipe Transcendence and use it on him, thus making his alignment known to me?

I didn't respond because I have no idea what you mean by snipe here and I don't really want to ask because it could end up being role related.

I mean, select. In the same vein I've selected my trait picks.

[Joan of Arc]

And why are you trying to influence his read on you? Like you said, it's his read on you, and by your logic, you have no business influencing it to suit yourself either.

Because thats how mafia works.
Thats how towns win games.
By addressing other concerns that other slots have, and then working together with other townreads to lynch the scumfucks.
That is how mafia works.
I want to win, and I realize that fighting back varsoon on a read that is probably wrong which his actions makes sense due to a friendly neighbour, is probably not a good idea. So I am willing to hear out what concerns he has, and address them, because maybe, I can get a better read on his alignment that way. If his concerns are made-up bullshit? Well then guess what, he's probably scum.
If his concerns are genuine actual concerns that a villager can have, then guess what, he's probably town.

Also, nothing you've said guarantees that your slot is town, so until I get that guarantee, I am allowed to scumread you.

[Shadowlesscloud]

Also Eragon said something earlier that lowered my townread of him so that's fun.

[Tsuchinoko]

If FB is town, he's basically a town dayvig.
If FB is scum, scum gain little to nothing for a bus there and given the tempo of response to the D1 lynch, they can probably get away not pushing him.
Makes plenty of sense to me.

How is scum supposed to know he has more shots of what he can do?
Like I get that, but also the inverse is true. If FB is town, he is basically a town dayvig, and if scum are SCARED of that, they should be opting to removing that right away.
if FB is scum, they could plan how they want to bus him and then try to get cred off of that, keep in mind that his flip will bring tons of cred because as you're saying, its a powerful role.

This is acting like scum can't just remove a role they are scared of by killing it.
They wouldn't get as much cred off a bus because
1. I already called it out
2. It's an unpopular wagon so forcing a bus there would be awkward.

If scum doesn't know his shots, their best job against a town FB is to avoid/buddy, hope he lands any other shots elsewhere, and kill him if he seems like a thread down the line because right now he's more a liability to town and worth keeping around from their PoV, I gotta figure.

you're forgetting the major thing about busses.
Half of it is the flip, the other half is how the bus is done.
We will never know what a bus would actually look like on that slot if it does flip scum, since no one aside from like Joan (from memory) really tried to push it, and if Joan is a FN as you so say she is, the we know that slot isn't bussing her.

So lets address this
1. Who cares if you called it out? If scum wanted to bus that slot, then they are going to try to bus that slot. You can't infleunce this.
2. You can say its unpopular now. But had POTENTIAL to be popular at the start of the day, so going for a bus there is pretty easy to do.

[Tsuchinoko]

And why are you trying to influence his read on you? Like you said, it's his read on you, and by your logic, you have no business influencing it to suit yourself either.

Because thats how mafia works.
Thats how towns win games.
By addressing other concerns that other slots have, and then working together with other townreads to lynch the scumfucks.
That is how mafia works.
I want to win, and I realize that fighting back varsoon on a read that is probably wrong which his actions makes sense due to a friendly neighbour, is probably not a good idea. So I am willing to hear out what concerns he has, and address them, because maybe, I can get a better read on his alignment that way. If his concerns are made-up bullshit? Well then guess what, he's probably scum.
If his concerns are genuine actual concerns that a villager can have, then guess what, he's probably town.

So pick one: either both of us are allowed to influence his reads, or neither one of us is allowed to.

You are not influencing his reads. What you are doing is trying to stop him from talking to me when me and Varsoon are trying to have a civil conversation.

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And why are you trying to influence his read on you? Like you said, it's his read on you, and by your logic, you have no business influencing it to suit yourself either.

Because thats how mafia works.
Thats how towns win games.
By addressing other concerns that other slots have, and then working together with other townreads to lynch the scumfucks.
That is how mafia works.
I want to win, and I realize that fighting back varsoon on a read that is probably wrong which his actions makes sense due to a friendly neighbour, is probably not a good idea. So I am willing to hear out what concerns he has, and address them, because maybe, I can get a better read on his alignment that way. If his concerns are made-up bullshit? Well then guess what, he's probably scum.
If his concerns are genuine actual concerns that a villager can have, then guess what, he's probably town.

Also, nothing you've said guarantees that your slot is town, so until I get that guarantee, I am allowed to scumread you.

Honestly, the reverse is true.
Nothing I've said guarantees that my slot is scum, so until you get that guarantee, you are not allowed to scumread me.

[Tsuchinoko]

Also Eragon said something earlier that lowered my townread of him so that's fun.

plz help me why do I have to deal with this person named joan?

[Varsoon]

Scum in this game strike me far more as 'wait and see' types based on game tempo, unless FB is their lead, and I highly doubt FB is their lead because ROLE RELATED REASONS.

Anyway.
I'm still cool with a push out on Mephisto because Mephisto is not present at all from what I can tell.

[Tsuchinoko]

Scum in this game strike me far more as 'wait and see' types based on game tempo, unless FB is their lead, and I highly doubt FB is their lead because ROLE RELATED REASONS.

Anyway.
I'm still cool with a push out on Mephisto because Mephisto is not present at all from what I can tell.

I think scum strategy can be way more diverse then you think it can be, especially since we have no idea what toys they have.
anything else I can help you with?

[Firestarters]

I'm back! Worth rereading?

P-edit skimmed and I see people voting out of the firestarter/meph slots when atleast one is confirmed scum, what

Yo explain this.

Explain which part?

I am at work so if I don't have to, I'd rather save rereading until I get home

And didn't you claim Mepho was scum trying to strip abilities away from players?

It's either your lying as scum going for a second ML or Meph is scum. Or you both are. (Prob not)

I said they're probably scum.

I said they're confirmably capable of stripping two more players of their abilities.

[Varsoon]

That's cool but if your defense is 'Well scum could do anything!' it really doesn't absolve my unease over your alignment.

[Tsuchinoko]

That's cool but if your defense is 'Well scum could do anything!' it really doesn't absolve my unease over your alignment.

I don't think I can change your mind on that since your mind seems to be made up on what correct scumplay is and as a better scum player, I just disagree.
So why don't we talk about something else? I'm sure you have other concerns about my slot, yeah?

[Tsuchinoko]

oh btw V
you know all of the posts written on this account were made me aka Ali right?
Just making sure since it might have sounded like that was not the case?

[Varsoon]

I dunno, Alisae, are you a better scum player?
What are your stats and what are mine? Back that shit up.

Also, wait, you've made ALL The posts on this account?
I thought Singletonking made some?

[wgeurts]

VOTECOUNT 2.11

Tsuchinoko (2):

Varsoon

[

#Blessed

]

(1), Joan of Arc (1)

Mephistophanes 39 (2):

PenguinPower (2)

Not Voting (8):

Mephistophanes 39 (1), Despair Galaxy (1), MariaR (1), Dunnstral (1), Keyser Söze (1), 0verki11 (1), Star Concord (3), Celestial Axis (3)

With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to Lynch.

It takes 8 to Lynch Varsoon.

You have (expired on 2019-03-19 14:57:25) until the deadline.

The number between brackets behind each player's name is their total vote-weight as off now.

Spoiler: Infinity Machine

Tsuchinoko (2) [

Nominee

]:

Firestarters, Tsuchinoko

Varsoon (2):

Varsoon, Despair Galaxy

Penguin Power (1):

Shadowlesscloud

Not Voting (8):

Mephistophanes 39, MariaR, PenguinPower, Joan of Arc, Eragon, Dunnstral, Keyser Söze, 0verki11

Spoiler: Federations

Name:	Members & Target Votes:	Vote-Weight:	Voting For:
Celestial Axis	Tsuchinoko (1): - Firestarters (1): Joan of Arc	3	-
Star Concord	Shadowlesscloud (1): Firestarters Eragon (1): -	3	-

[Varsoon]

Also, the fact none of ya'll wanted to make a Federation with me really bothers me, I hate all you cowards.

[Varsoon]

When any mod runs a neighborhood mechanic in a game it's only ever because I made them popular again and when people avoid hooding me it's like "Yeah I didnt wanna play with the toys I usually am excited to give other people, fuck me."

[Tsuchinoko]

I dunno, Alisae, are you a better scum player?
What are your stats and what are mine? Back that shit up.

Also, wait, you've made ALL The posts on this account?
I thought Singletonking made some?

No single signs he told me ahead.
All of those posts are mine, he's been busy and hasn't gotten an opportunity to post, and not to mention its hard for him to get into the game with so much spam. Partially my fault tho.
And look dude, I have 3 banners
one of them is a scumplay banner
so my scumplay can be on point when I want it to be even though experience you've had with scum!me is that my dayplay is actual legit garbage and I can't get townread as scum for the life of me.

[Varsoon]

^ Okay that's quite vain but still.
Uggggh

P-EDIT: Why have you had such a tonal shift as of the recent votes against you, then?
You also had a scummy mod banner and ayy I'd argue I got the better stats, my guy