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Post Post #1175 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:54 pm

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have you considered you aren't good with criticism and you telling me that you want constructive criticism is false because i have given you constructive criticism and you turned it into me attacking you?

I don't know. Seems reasonable to me.
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Post Post #1176 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:54 pm

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In post 1174, Joan of Arc wrote:
In post 1171, Firestarters wrote:i am not confirmed town lol
Really?
In post 1131, Firestarters wrote:This seems like a power far too strong for scum to have, so I believe that mechanically speaking, we are conftown because of it.
Really?
not me, that is enter. Enter keeps making bad mechanical arguments I don't agree with. But fine slam Enter for that.

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Post Post #1177 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:57 pm

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In post 1175, Firestarters wrote:have you considered you aren't good with criticism and you telling me that you want constructive criticism is false because i have given you constructive criticism and you turned it into me attacking you?

I don't know. Seems reasonable to me.
Yeah, because it wasn't detailed enough. I want you to read all of my past games and then tell me what I did wrong in each one of them. I am the kindf of player who needs to be shown what they did wrong in past games so I can remove those flaws in my play in my future games.
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Post Post #1178 (ISO) » Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:58 pm

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In post 1176, Firestarters wrote:
In post 1174, Joan of Arc wrote:
In post 1171, Firestarters wrote:i am not confirmed town lol
Really?
In post 1131, Firestarters wrote:This seems like a power far too strong for scum to have, so I believe that mechanically speaking, we are conftown because of it.
Really?
not me, that is enter. Enter keeps making bad mechanical arguments I don't agree with. But fine slam Enter for that.

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Post Post #1179 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:00 am

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Also, @Tsuchinoko Yeah, I am living in the past, so what of it? I like to remember the good moments of my mafia career. And I'm hardly the only one guilty of this. It's why multiple people keep the record of games they've player on their wikis, so they can remember the times they've played well.
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Post Post #1180 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:01 am

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yeah its kind of like i say something, i mean it. When he says something, he means it. And we don't agree, and you attack his arguments and say they are mine, and want me to defend them as though I am him, when I am not and I don't agree with them, and its weird for you to think I should defend arguments he makes that I don't even agree with.

i am not confirmed town, enter said that he thinks we are mechanically, which i think is dumb.
you want to hold enter accountable for that, go ahead. He thinks that, I don't.


When you point to X and say, WELL HOLD THE PHONE YOUR INCONSISTENT! Because you say Y. I say, I didn't say Y and I don't agree with that. You say, YOU ARE SAME SLOT. As htough I have to agree with everything Enter says.
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Post Post #1181 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:04 am

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This is why I think you are a bad actor btw. You have done this all game, where you take one of us says, and because what one of us says is an opinion the other doesn't say, you hold it up as proof of inconsistency and as though it means something beyond we don't agree.

Its like a stupid gotcha.
You aren't trying to understand my slot, my thoughts, or enters. You are trying to make us look bad by showing inconsistent statements and making them seem bad when you don't apply any semblance of thought into that two people can have different thoughts.
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Post Post #1182 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:04 am

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In post 1180, Firestarters wrote:yeah its kind of like i say something, i mean it. When he says something, he means it. And we don't agree, and you attack his arguments and say they are mine, and want me to defend them as though I am him, when I am not and I don't agree with them, and its weird for you to think I should defend arguments he makes that I don't even agree with.

i am not confirmed town, enter said that he thinks we are mechanically, which i think is dumb.
you want to hold enter accountable for that, go ahead. He thinks that, I don't.


When you point to X and say, WELL HOLD THE PHONE YOUR INCONSISTENT! Because you say Y. I say, I didn't say Y and I don't agree with that. You say, YOU ARE SAME SLOT. As htough I have to agree with everything Enter says.
Yes, because you are the same slot.
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Post Post #1183 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:06 am

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In post 1181, Firestarters wrote:This is why I think you are a bad actor btw. You have done this all game, where you take one of us says, and because what one of us says is an opinion the other doesn't say, you hold it up as proof of inconsistency and as though it means something beyond we don't agree.

Its like a stupid gotcha.
You aren't trying to understand my slot, my thoughts, or enters. You are trying to make us look bad by showing inconsistent statements and making them seem bad when you don't apply any semblance of thought into that two people can have different thoughts.
Tell you what? If you want me to differentiate between you two, tell him to sign the posts he makes with his name, and you sign the posts you make with your name. There, problem solved, easy enough to do.
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Post Post #1184 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:07 am

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In post 981, Varsoon wrote:So do you think that shit was MOD OVERSIGHT that MOD SLIPPED DUNN'S ALIGN and generally POOR GAME DESIGN
or maybe that Dunn, silent Dunn, unusually mechanically focused Dunn, maybe has a scum ace up his sleeve and should be given a little more scrutiny?

P-EDIT: Exactly that.

P-P-EDIT: No, it can't prove he's town. Literally the ONLY way it can SEEM to is if Dunn is ONLY on a SCUM lynch, then has a PROVABLE PERK and LIVES TO DO THAT and even if ALL THOSE STARS ALIGN all it proves is that he GOT AN ASCENSION PERK not that he's town.

@MOD: Is the ONLY way to get Ascension Perks tied to lynching?
Is it possible that players may get Ascension Perks in some other way?
Such abilities may exist in the game. Their existence isn't guaranteed or denied, but they're not impossible. This applies to pretty much every possible ability however.
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Post Post #1185 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:08 am

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I sign a lot of my posts with my name. If you can't tell the difference between the two of us when a lot of people can, that should give you a red flag you aren't reading to understand who the hell is talking.

but just for u, i will sign more often.
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Post Post #1186 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:09 am

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In post 1175, Firestarters wrote:have you considered you aren't good with criticism and you telling me that you want constructive criticism is false because i have given you constructive criticism and you turned it into me attacking you?

I don't know. Seems reasonable to me.
Yes, because I asked you to CC me on what I did wrong in one of my past game - Mini 1936 - and you refused. If you were honest about giving me CC, you would have agreed to tell me what I did wrong in Mini 1936.
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Post Post #1187 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:12 am

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i am so tired of telling you, that you don't get to chose what I give you constructive criticism on. I gave you it. You said "no i want it on X" and I said "no i am not going to go read that game to give you feedback, i gave you feedback this game".

then you say "well then you aren't honestly looking to give me CC", and i go "well not when you continually move the goal posts of what is acceptable criticism and what i have to give you feedback on"
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Post Post #1188 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:14 am

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Hey guys, sorry weve both been kinda busy but we will be back soon. If nothing else I can be here on the weekend and we'll be relevanrlt again :)

Glad this day is at least lasting that long! XD
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Post Post #1189 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:14 am

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In post 1188, Mephistophanes 39 wrote:Hey guys, sorry weve both been kinda busy but we will be back soon. If nothing else I can be here on the weekend and we'll be relevanrlt again :)

Glad this day is at least lasting that long! XD
u want to admit what u did last night. cause we already claimed it.
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Post Post #1190 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:19 am

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@Mod I asked a question in my hydra pt. Please answer.
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Post Post #1191 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:21 am

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VOTECOUNT 2.15

Firestarters (4):
Star Concord (3), Despair Galaxy (1)
Mephistophanes 39 (3):
PenguinPower (2), Joan of Arc (1)
Tsuchinoko (1):
Varsoon
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#Blessed
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(1)
MariaR (1):
0verki11 (1)

Not Voting (5):
Mephistophanes 39 (1), MariaR (1), Dunnstral (1), Keyser Söze (1), Celestial Axis (3)

With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to Lynch.
It takes 8 to Lynch Varsoon.

You have (expired on 2019-03-19 14:57:25) until the deadline.


The number between brackets behind each player's name is their total vote-weight as off now.


Spoiler: Infinity Machine
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Nominee
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Varsoon, Despair Galaxy, Joan of Arc, Tsuchinoko
Penguin Machine (1):
Shadowlesscloud
Tsuchinoko (1):
Firestarters

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Mephistophanes 39, MariaR, PenguinPower, Eragon, Dunnstral, Keyser Söze, 0verki11

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Name:
Members & Target Votes:
Vote-Weight:
Voting For:
Celestial Axis
Tsuchinoko (1):
MariaR
Firestarters (1):
Joan of Arc
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Post Post #1192 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:22 am

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In post 1189, Firestarters wrote:u want to admit what u did last night. cause we already claimed it.
I was wondering if you would.

Ya, we did a thing. That was my call because damn you scared me with that 5 post ending to D1! You showed an immense lack of critical thinking and/or wanted to flex and I don't trust that you wouldn't do it as scum.

I am wondering though, was that premeditated? Also why were you going to use it on us (@Fire)/why did you use it on Nero (@Enter)?

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Post Post #1193 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:25 am

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Want to tell everyone what exactly you did and what your action entails because people here are conspiracy theorists.

And I think your action shows your scum btw, because what you did wasn't just a blanket vanilliaze.
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Post Post #1194 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:30 am

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In post 1193, Firestarters wrote:Want to tell everyone what exactly you did and what your action entails because people here are conspiracy theorists.

And I think your action shows your scum btw, because what you did wasn't just a blanket vanilliaze.
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To my understanding we neutered you to a degree. It was meant to take away some of your power and give us some safety without doing too mich damage if you in fact are town.

I will claim it but I didn't intend to right this second. I was just proddodging because I have a presentation to finish that's kinda being presented in like 2 hours! XD

Also just fyi I'm pretty much heading all action and mechanics based things this game so if you ask nancy she literally won't have answers for you. I signed the last post sk you would know who to ask because of this :)
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Post Post #1195 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:32 am

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You are lawyer speaking around this question lol.

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Post Post #1196 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:36 am

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:roll:
We took away your special abilities and your ability to vote us.

I saw you could recharge that vote thing and you were already reckless with it once! I stand by it.

Now why were you planning on using it on us?
And I assume it doesn't neuter future abilities you gain, like technologies and ascentions. I actually never thought to ask (and thought it was just trait abilities until I just rechecked the wording, so sorry it was a little more powered than a simple neutering as I claimed in the last post :S)
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Post Post #1197 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:57 am

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Or I can't read :lol:

Anyway, I stuck around for you but I can't anymore.
will see if I can continue this conversation during my way more boring class
shit I just remembered I have a test in that one!

Oh well. We'll talk at some point but ya, #noregrets tbh
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Post Post #1198 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:25 am

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In post 1187, Firestarters wrote:i am so tired of telling you, that you don't get to chose what I give you constructive criticism on. I gave you it. You said "no i want it on X" and I said "no i am not going to go read that game to give you feedback, i gave you feedback this game".

then you say "well then you aren't honestly looking to give me CC", and i go "well not when you continually move the goal posts of what is acceptable criticism and what i have to give you feedback on"

Yes, because I am the type of person who doesn't do well with conventional CC format. Know why? Because that format confuses me.
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Post Post #1199 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:28 am

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The reason you won't give me CC on Mini 1936 is because there is none to give, hence why you are avoiding CCing me on that game like plague, because you know there is no CC to give me on that game and doing so would deprive you of an opportunity to belittle and mock me.
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