Mini 2110: I hate Mafia (Day 8)

[Creature]

Yep, but can't feel confident on any other town besides Wake and myself

[Creature]

I'll probably never get lynched, so likely we'll end lynching another mime and being brought to a 66/33 in F4.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Yep, but can't feel confident on any other town besides Wake and myself

Well I obviously say the same.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

I'll probably never get lynched, so likely we'll end lynching another mime and being brought to a 66/33 in F4.

If we lose this game, I’m 100% blaming it on Pine, whatever he is.

[Chemist1422]

I'll probably never get lynched, so likely we'll end lynching another mime and being brought to a 66/33 in F4.

If we lose this game, I’m 100% blaming it on Pine, whatever he is.

wow rude

[Pyrrha Nikos]

I'll probably never get lynched, so likely we'll end lynching another mime and being brought to a 66/33 in F4.

If we lose this game, I’m 100% blaming it on Pine, whatever he is.

wow rude

Why?

[Chemist1422]

nothing just me being dumb

ignore

[chkflip]

I never thought I'd say this, but I really like Creature rn.

[Map Wolf]

Honestly lost on what to do. I'd say Creature is likely town. As for anyone else, I think chkflip might be as well... But maybe he is too towny perhaps.

Need some sleep.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Someone is playing a fantastic mime game, I just wish I could figure out whom.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay what’s this regarding scum being narrowed down here?

Vote Farkran.

No I saw something I want explained.

You really wanna talk about what looks like baiting for townpoints with me?

Lol nice one, that’s another reason why I suspect you as Fark’s partner
And like sure call it foreshadowing when it requires a whole ton of luck and/or skill for that to pan out.

[Gamma Emerald]

On wagon, I don't believe the entire wagon (sans Farkran) was town.

Therefore, it's one on and one off. That means, to me, both Creature and Map Wolf cannot both be town. It also means all of Nikos, Pine, and Gamma cannot be town.

Yesterday's lynch wasn't particularly difficult to obtain; however, neither has any lynch since I've joined this game.

Therefore, to me, the speed cannot be alignment indicative.

The only person I KNOW to be town is Wake88 and I still resign to the logic that he will see this game to the absolute end with having never used his shot. It is the most pro-town strategy to go by due to a misfire making this situation much worse than Farkran's flip has already made it. IIoA here, but bear with me.

-IF- Creature/Map Wolf is the way I see it, I cannot lynch there today without having solidified an undoubtable read on one or the other in one way or the other. 50/50 is a coin flip, not a mafia game.

That leaves Nikos, Pine (now Chemist - hello! without dread), and Gamma Emerald. That's 33/33/33 just on odds -IF I'M CORRECT- which still leaves a lot to be desired.

Without further ado, I state this all to say that I don't think I'll be voting toDay if I don't get a solid townread before deadline.

Interesting you declare it HAS TO BE one on one off, what makes you certain MW and Creature aren’t scum?

[Gamma Emerald]

I definitely agree that it obviously couldn’t have been an alltown wagon since I know I’m town but obviously one Farkran voter has to be town, since Farkran flipped mime. So how many mimes on Farkran wagon? One or two?

If we lynch Wake, we are guaranteed a town flip but then we are deprived of a vig shot, which is why we should have listened to Enter. :/

Wasn’t that your brilliant idea Chk, that we lynch Farkran instead? If a mime had to die, wouldn’t a vig shot have been a lot better, because then we could have safely lynched Wake without him losing his shot?

If we no lynch, then scum only needs a second one to win, so I think the most optimal solution is to get Wake to vig the most obvious townie and then we lynch him.

Wait what are you suggesting here? We shoot off Wake’s vig today and lynch him after that?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

Okay what’s this regarding scum being narrowed down here?

Vote Farkran.

No I saw something I want explained.

You really wanna talk about what looks like baiting for townpoints with me?

Lol nice one, that’s another reason why I suspect you as Fark’s partner
And like sure call it foreshadowing when it requires a whole ton of luck and/or skill for that to pan out.

This is looking like classic scum distancing to me. I think Gamma/Chk could possibly be the mime team.

[Gamma Emerald]

nothing just me being dumb

ignore

How is that “you being dumb”?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

On wagon, I don't believe the entire wagon (sans Farkran) was town.

Therefore, it's one on and one off. That means, to me, both Creature and Map Wolf cannot both be town. It also means all of Nikos, Pine, and Gamma cannot be town.

Yesterday's lynch wasn't particularly difficult to obtain; however, neither has any lynch since I've joined this game.

Therefore, to me, the speed cannot be alignment indicative.

The only person I KNOW to be town is Wake88 and I still resign to the logic that he will see this game to the absolute end with having never used his shot. It is the most pro-town strategy to go by due to a misfire making this situation much worse than Farkran's flip has already made it. IIoA here, but bear with me.

-IF- Creature/Map Wolf is the way I see it, I cannot lynch there today without having solidified an undoubtable read on one or the other in one way or the other. 50/50 is a coin flip, not a mafia game.

That leaves Nikos, Pine (now Chemist - hello! without dread), and Gamma Emerald. That's 33/33/33 just on odds -IF I'M CORRECT- which still leaves a lot to be desired.

Without further ado, I state this all to say that I don't think I'll be voting toDay if I don't get a solid townread before deadline.

Interesting you declare it HAS TO BE one on one off, what makes you certain MW and Creature aren’t scum?

I think it’s unlikely that both mimes were on wagon, because wouldn’t that be less optimal towards a mime wincon? Sure it’s possible but likely?

[Pyrrha Nikos]

I definitely agree that it obviously couldn’t have been an alltown wagon since I know I’m town but obviously one Farkran voter has to be town, since Farkran flipped mime. So how many mimes on Farkran wagon? One or two?

If we lynch Wake, we are guaranteed a town flip but then we are deprived of a vig shot, which is why we should have listened to Enter. :/

Wasn’t that your brilliant idea Chk, that we lynch Farkran instead? If a mime had to die, wouldn’t a vig shot have been a lot better, because then we could have safely lynched Wake without him losing his shot?

If we no lynch, then scum only needs a second one to win, so I think the most optimal solution is to get Wake to vig the most obvious townie and then we lynch him.

Wait what are you suggesting here? We shoot off Wake’s vig today and lynch him after that?

You don’t think that’s a good idea?

[chkflip]

Lol nice one, that’s another reason why I suspect you as Fark’s partner
And like sure call it foreshadowing when it requires a whole ton of luck and/or skill for that to pan out.

I love that you're verbally patting yourself on the back already. Super fucking cute.

On point: "that's another reason" -- what is? My insistence to get the wagon through? Use your words. You can't say "that's another reason" and not state what the fucking reason is.

Interesting you declare it HAS TO BE one on one off, what makes you certain MW and Creature aren’t scum?

I literally spent sentence after sentence reiterating that thus was my thought process, not what the game absolutely is or is not. The only absolute is Wake88. That's the only thing that post is concrete on. This wave of discredit attempts is absolutely pathetic but not surprising.

However, I'll still answer your question.

I do not believe that Creature and Map Wolf are on the same team because I do not believe they're playing from the same mindset. They do not BOTH read like they're uninformed in the same way. They just don't. It's also statistically unlikely that the entire mime team happily hopped on the last wagon of the Rauth plan KNOWING what was about to happen. That's just bad play. I went over this in the post, but you're skimming and looking for any little reason to discredit my voice because you're tunneling from one alignment or the other. Which is unimportant as this juncture because I've got four other players to sort.

People should start generating reads lists.

Chemist, I don't expect you to read the entire game. I do, however, expect you to read enough of it to find a person you're comfortable with sheeping for the time being while you do so. You have the gift of coming from a completely blank and worthless slot. Please use that properly.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

@Map, why did you vote Wake?

[chkflip]

Wasn’t that your brilliant idea Chk, that we lynch Farkran instead? If a mime had to die, wouldn’t a vig shot have been a lot better, because then we could have safely lynched Wake without him losing his shot?

Not in so many words. I was (and still am) of the opinion that we shouldn't anchor the game on Wake shooting town so we "instantly win" because reads can be bad and them shooting mime yesterday would've been equally as bad as us lynching Farkran who has now flipped mime.

I mean, sure, it's arguable that having a Wake shot hitting mime and us lynching Wake afterward would but as at 4:2 toDay; however, it's equally likely of us to arrive there tomorrow without having used the shot at all.

I can say that him using it today is probably the more optimal play than any other day moving forward since it's statistically less likely to hit mime than town. But I still stand by him not using it yesterday.

Finally having a mime flip might actually be pretty beneficial, all things considered.

More people need to be active, though, for anything to happen for town.

[Gamma Emerald]

I definitely agree that it obviously couldn’t have been an alltown wagon since I know I’m town but obviously one Farkran voter has to be town, since Farkran flipped mime. So how many mimes on Farkran wagon? One or two?

If we lynch Wake, we are guaranteed a town flip but then we are deprived of a vig shot, which is why we should have listened to Enter. :/

Wasn’t that your brilliant idea Chk, that we lynch Farkran instead? If a mime had to die, wouldn’t a vig shot have been a lot better, because then we could have safely lynched Wake without him losing his shot?

If we no lynch, then scum only needs a second one to win, so I think the most optimal solution is to get Wake to vig the most obvious townie and then we lynch him.

Wait what are you suggesting here? We shoot off Wake’s vig today and lynch him after that?

You don’t think that’s a good idea?

Not at this point no, that at best puts us at 5p LyWin

[Gamma Emerald]

Lol nice one, that’s another reason why I suspect you as Fark’s partner
And like sure call it foreshadowing when it requires a whole ton of luck and/or skill for that to pan out.

I love that you're verbally patting yourself on the back already. Super fucking cute.

On point: "that's another reason" -- what is? My insistence to get the wagon through? Use your words. You can't say "that's another reason" and not state what the fucking reason is.

Interesting you declare it HAS TO BE one on one off, what makes you certain MW and Creature aren’t scum?

I literally spent sentence after sentence reiterating that thus was my thought process, not what the game absolutely is or is not. The only absolute is Wake88. That's the only thing that post is concrete on. This wave of discredit attempts is absolutely pathetic but not surprising.

However, I'll still answer your question.

I do not believe that Creature and Map Wolf are on the same team because I do not believe they're playing from the same mindset. They do not BOTH read like they're uninformed in the same way. They just don't. It's also statistically unlikely that the entire mime team happily hopped on the last wagon of the Rauth plan KNOWING what was about to happen. That's just bad play. I went over this in the post, but you're skimming and looking for any little reason to discredit my voice because you're tunneling from one alignment or the other. Which is unimportant as this juncture because I've got four other players to sort.

People should start generating reads lists.

Chemist, I don't expect you to read the entire game. I do, however, expect you to read enough of it to find a person you're comfortable with sheeping for the time being while you do so. You have the gift of coming from a completely blank and worthless slot. Please use that properly.

My reason is that when I asked a question about something that I thought might be important, your first choice of response was to bluntly tell me to vote Farkran. Rather than engage with me you just tell me what to do.
And the reason I asked about your logic about there being one scum there is because it seems like you’re kinda fishing for townpoints with the argument there. I disagree that scum would avoid that wagon knowing what was coming, since with that knowledge they can plan around it, deciding whether to play it safe and stay off or take a risk by putting themselves in the spotlight. And the idea that only one scum voted there would benefit you greatly if your partner was on it with you, potentially “clearing” you. And wdym Creature and MW don’t read uninformed the same way? How does that equate to not being partners?

[Map Wolf]

@Map, why did you vote Wake?

I thought Farkran was hammered and was town, so lynching Wake would end the game.

[Map Wolf]

I feel like the Farkran lynch was going to be happen. I don't think one can read that much off of it. The ones not voting Farkran were likely just not active.

[Pyrrha Nikos]

I definitely agree that it obviously couldn’t have been an alltown wagon since I know I’m town but obviously one Farkran voter has to be town, since Farkran flipped mime. So how many mimes on Farkran wagon? One or two?

If we lynch Wake, we are guaranteed a town flip but then we are deprived of a vig shot, which is why we should have listened to Enter. :/

Wasn’t that your brilliant idea Chk, that we lynch Farkran instead? If a mime had to die, wouldn’t a vig shot have been a lot better, because then we could have safely lynched Wake without him losing his shot?

If we no lynch, then scum only needs a second one to win, so I think the most optimal solution is to get Wake to vig the most obvious townie and then we lynch him.

Wait what are you suggesting here? We shoot off Wake’s vig today and lynch him after that?

You don’t think that’s a good idea?

Not at this point no, that at best puts us at 5p LyWin

Can you elaborate on this and not to sound dumb but what does “Lywin” mean exactly? I seriously need a glossary of all these terms.