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Post Post #2325 (ISO) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:58 am

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In post 2219, Slaxx wrote:Well there's definitely a fucking roleblocker because I rolestopped Aaron last night.
I don't believe this, especially with the horribleness that was Wilky's play VOTE: slaxx
In post 2226, Slaxx wrote:Im pissed because I was going to go for Icon then WIFOM'd myself into Aaron and none of it mattered anyway

But that's the game.

Curious as to what Icon has in store for us today.
Manufactured emotion, encouraged resignation, and then a diversion.
In post 2250, Slaxx wrote:UNVOTE:

Meh.

I'll be around today if anyone needs my input on anything.
Your conviction gave out way too easily for that to have been a serious vote.

  • @Skygazer; I ignored that pressure because it was horseshit
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  • I'm willing to lynch bji or micc if not slaxx, and skygazer only at deadine as of right now. Go team
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Post Post #2326 (ISO) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:14 am

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Looker you being town depends on smt to me. Any idea what that might be?
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Post Post #2327 (ISO) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:19 am

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In post 2323, Datisi wrote:
In post 2320, Menalque wrote:(1) maybe not same strength, that was badly worded. I was reading you as the same level of town, my confidence in my read on you was higher than on bji but that doesn’t mean I thought he was on a lower level, just someone I was more likely to re-evaluate on later days if the game wasn’t over.

(2) sure feels like the push is about getting me lynched considering that you’re voting for me and arguing that I’m scum

(3) yeah, why not? You realise that the exact same arguments you’re making for why you wouldn’t kill GL apply to me, right? A bit weaker because he wasn’t townreading me as hard as he was townreading you, but basically the same.
Why does this logic work for you not killing him but not for that not being a kill that comes from you? Not to mention that if it is emps then idk why that wouldn’t overrule your preference for not killing GL given that GL was prob gonna lead on emps yesterday
(1) gotcha.

(2) do you feel like i'm trying to argue you're scum? do you think this could be a genuine attempt to sort from my side?

(3) In a vacuum, no, because I don't think we play scum the same way. Though I'll admit I don't remember GL's read on you. And I'm not sure what you mean by the bolded? And I think i did say that the only way I kill GL is if emps is my partner?

And yeah, I did say that, but me "reading" a game i'm not in consists of skimming every 3rd page and looking at flips. I don't read them in detail as I do the games I myself play.

pedit: not sure if there was something else, lemme check
(2) I mean less so now but when you started it sure as shit felt like that was the way you were going. But now I’m not sure if you’re actually trying to sort or if you’re just backing off the read because I’m here today and defending myself

(3) look at his posts again. I’m p sure he had me in town by end of day, although I don’t think he was as locktown on me as he was on you. I think the bolded was just me reiterating that the kill wouldn’t make sense coming from me either fypov, the final “you” was meant to say “me”. I mean yeah, it’s true that we don’t play scum the same way, but that doesn’t mean that you’re not capable of doing the fairly basic move of killing someone who TRs you. I do agree that your equity goes down for the GL kill if micc!slot is town, but I don’t think it’s clearing

Okay, I guess that makes more sense, I kind of assumed you would at least be reading me in ISO if you were reading my games but if you’re just skimming you could have missed that
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Post Post #2328 (ISO) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:19 am

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Idk I still feel kind of iffy
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Post Post #2329 (ISO) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:20 am

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In post 2294, Menalque wrote:
In post 2238, Iconeum wrote:Micc might be town because im alive tho
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Post Post #2330 (ISO) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:24 am

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Hmm. Why didn't you vote me back then?

No, I don't really read ISO's unless i've previously read the thread in question. I don't get much use of it that way frankly.
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Post Post #2331 (ISO) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:24 am

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In post 2324, Datisi wrote:
In post 2322, Menalque wrote:Is this the entirety of the reason for why you flipped your read on micc!slot
Not quite. I did like his posts upon repping in, and once his lynch was getting closer i just started having a gut feeling he flips green. Plus think back on emps's play it seemed more and more... meh? Like? Idk if emps tries to save their buddy in that half-assed way? I don't know if i can explain it further than this.
What did you like about them and can you try to explain it more re:emps being half-assed

I can entirely believe that emps was like a bit renovated from not having rolled scum for one or two games, enough to be motivated and actually post on D1 only to completely lose his will to play scum again after losing a buddy D1
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Post Post #2332 (ISO) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:24 am

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In post 2329, Menalque wrote:
In post 2294, Menalque wrote:
In post 2238, Iconeum wrote:Micc might be town because im alive tho
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Why kill Aaron over me if not because scum think I will help Ina mislynch

Micc knows I'd likely come for him so I'm an obvious target if he scumm.
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Post Post #2333 (ISO) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:25 am

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In post 2330, Datisi wrote:Hmm. Why didn't you vote me back then?

No, I don't really read ISO's unless i've previously read the thread in question. I don't get much use of it that way frankly.
Because micc still has a better chance of flipping scum than you, you may just be deeply wrong
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Post Post #2334 (ISO) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:26 am

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Also re:ISOs yah we definitely have a different approach
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Post Post #2335 (ISO) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:29 am

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In post 2332, Iconeum wrote:
In post 2329, Menalque wrote:
In post 2294, Menalque wrote:
In post 2238, Iconeum wrote:Micc might be town because im alive tho
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Why kill Aaron over me if not because scum think I will help Ina mislynch

Micc knows I'd likely come for him so I'm an obvious target if he scumm.
Because Aaron was a hard claimed cop? That seems like enough reason?

And that’s just WIFOM — after all, you’re not now coming for micc are you
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Post Post #2336 (ISO) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:29 am

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Idk, the early play felt much like fishing but later on analsys felt okay?
In post 790, emps wrote:im confused abt the bugspray sr tbh
In post 792, emps wrote:bugsprays just doing his own thing and idk how u sr that so
In post 993, emps wrote:im doubting like all my trs now cause of this bugs wagon
these posts felt so half-assed
and iirc emps usually doesn't defend their buddies as much

but now i'm again very not sure on scum!Mena so either it's smt like bob/bji or i'm wrong on Micc again so like

lol
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Post Post #2337 (ISO) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:29 am

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@ducky what happens if a roleblocker and a rolestopper target each other?
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Post Post #2338 (ISO) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:35 am

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In post 2336, Datisi wrote:Idk, the early play felt much like fishing but later on analsys felt okay?
In post 790, emps wrote:im confused abt the bugspray sr tbh
In post 792, emps wrote:bugsprays just doing his own thing and idk how u sr that so
In post 993, emps wrote:im doubting like all my trs now cause of this bugs wagon
these posts felt so half-assed
and iirc emps usually doesn't defend their buddies as much

but now i'm again very not sure on scum!Mena so either it's smt like bob/bji or i'm wrong on Micc again so like

lol
I think effort tell is more significant in the case of emps than it is for most and so him being half assed doesn’t really do anything to sell me on the slot being town. How hard did he try in medical? I know he posted a lot there, but was he actually like efforting?

I also don’t like that you’re walking back your read on me almost immediately after putting it out there

Like if we wanna talk 900 that reminds me a lot of how icon played around me there

Talk to me about bob and bji, why that pairing
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Post Post #2339 (ISO) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:36 am

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Why are looker and sky cleared fypov
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Post Post #2340 (ISO) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:36 am

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Lmao if it’s fuckin icon/dats doing the hard TR each other thing then just fucking shoot me now
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Post Post #2341 (ISO) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:38 am

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In post 2340, Menalque wrote:Lmao if it’s fuckin icon/dats doing the hard TR each other thing then just fucking shoot me now
:lol:

i still yearn for the day i roll scum with icon

anyway
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Post Post #2342 (ISO) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:42 am

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Actually does that make sense

Icon gets an early bus out on chem slot, dats slots on later

D2 icon pushes emps!slot hard but then kind of disappears at end of day and lets pine lynch happen despite being against it

Datisi suddenly gets cold feet from nowhere on micc

D3 there’s like a little thing of “oh you’re my top TR” “you’re my top TR too”

Then icon starts suggesting my name as a lynch target/bad associatives but datisi starts making the push, icon keeps talking about how I look bad from associatives but doesn’t really push me
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Post Post #2343 (ISO) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:43 am

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In post 2338, Menalque wrote:I think effort tell is more significant in the case of emps than it is for most and so him being half assed doesn’t really do anything to sell me on the slot being town. How hard did he try in medical? I know he posted a lot there, but was he actually like efforting?

I also don’t like that you’re walking back your read on me almost immediately after putting it out there

Like if we wanna talk 900 that reminds me a lot of how icon played around me there

Talk to me about bob and bji, why that pairing
I don't know exactly, I just remember him posting a crap ton. I'd have to go back and check how much was it memeing vs solving, but i do think at least a genuine part was solving

you mean me playing around you this game reminds you of 900!icon?

agh i don't know, i started from dats/icon/looker/sky/slaxx being town, and if my gut on micc was right then it's between those three right? *and* if i'm wrong on you being scum then it has to be the two remaining yeah?
In post 2339, Menalque wrote:Why are looker and sky cleared fypov
i still want to believe bugs's push on looker was pretty TvS, and sky's slot seemed townie? like i've said it before that i think that slot is town no?
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Post Post #2344 (ISO) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:44 am

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But then like what’s the endgame plan

If I get lynched today

I guess micc lynched tomorrow? And prob slaxx would get killed tonight or maybe just RB’d again

Then it would be lylo with like (dats, icon, bob, bji, looker/sky) which sounds horrendous
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Post Post #2345 (ISO) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:44 am

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In post 2342, Menalque wrote:Actually does that make sense

Icon gets an early bus out on chem slot, dats slots on later

D2 icon pushes emps!slot hard but then kind of disappears at end of day and lets pine lynch happen despite being against it

Datisi suddenly gets cold feet from nowhere on micc

D3 there’s like a little thing of “oh you’re my top TR” “you’re my top TR too”

Then icon starts suggesting my name as a lynch target/bad associatives but datisi starts making the push, icon keeps talking about how I look bad from associatives but doesn’t really push me
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Post Post #2346 (ISO) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:47 am

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Then again that would mean being wrong about literally everything this game and as much as I have bad games I don’t think I’m at that level of self doubt yet

Plus it requires a double bus and for the wagon to have been super difficult on chem regardless? Plus icon just doesn’t really seem like scum even if I can see dats!scum, like I feel like scum!icon is more aimless or fucky with the gamestate

And the only thing that’s really been reminiscent of that is the claim fuckery regarding Aaron and even then that seems like a pointless thing to contest as scum and not just NK

As does demanding a lynch on town!micc and burning cred there when he could have just eased up and chilled off the D1 cred there for a while
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Post Post #2347 (ISO) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:48 am

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So prob just town!icon regardless of dats!alignment? I think
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Post Post #2348 (ISO) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:51 am

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Right so do you not see a difference here between that and this re:emps

And yes, that’s what I’m saying re: 900

And hmm. Why is slaxx clear? Did you talk about the bugs/looker push or your take on that before? And I mean I think sky is probably the towniest slot in the game but I want to know why you think she’s a towny slot
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Post Post #2349 (ISO) » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:58 am

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I do see a difference, but i also saw a huge difference between Mist's play in that game and here and we've seen how that's turned out

i think this post has been quoted a couple of times now?
In post 732, Datisi wrote:
In post 730, GuiltyLion wrote:I think I'm just concerned I have sliiiightly too many town reads and I'm trying to reassess where I could be wrong
also this is a mood

also i kinda think if bugs/looker flips scum it spews the other town

discuss
I'm not sure I see scum!slaxx preemptively claiming an interfering role/Rolestopper, especially if scum!Slaxx would know that there exists a Town Roleblocker (if Aaron was blocked by a Town one, which i suspect)

and
hmm
wasn't there the huge shitfight with UP or something? Idk that slot's been in a "town until further notice" box for a while now
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