Micro 938: Butterfly Mafia [game over]

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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 7:44 am

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I mean, they'd be Informed Neighbor, but I could buy that?
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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 7:46 am

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we should probably lynch them both just to be sure. especially if one of them flips town.
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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 7:47 am

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In post 276, votato wrote:we should probably lynch them both just to be sure. especially if one of them flips town.
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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 9:04 am

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Best friends exist. Hoctac, are you informed that Recti is town?
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 9:07 am

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In post 272, Hoctac wrote:
In post 270, votato wrote:
In post 265, Hoctac wrote:fine fine fine feine fienfeif nefinefinenfe

Yeah, Recti's telling the truth, I was trying to backtrack the claim and not make us confirmed town to scum. It's okay, Recti, but the roles we're backups for aren't guaranteed to be town, so we can't form this conftown block.
so you are informed that recti is town?
Yeah
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 9:08 am

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Thanks, Donkey. Page 11 was so bad it made me zone out.
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 11:49 am

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We should try winning the game now.

VOTE: Looker

Scum!Looker is lazy and would take a quickhammer most of the time.
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 12:03 pm

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Official Vote Count 2.02
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With 7 votes in play, it takes 4 to lynch.

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(3): Knightmare491, Umlaut, Hoctac
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Not Voting
(3): Looker, Rectiplanes, LuckyLuciano

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(expired on 2020-05-21 15:15:00).

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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 12:07 pm

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Looker seems to have bailed, he's been on site but hasn't posted here.
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 12:56 pm

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im willing to hammer if he doesnt show up
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 1:21 pm

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I mean I think he's basically claimed scum at this point but let's see if there's anything people want to do/say today.
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 1:43 pm

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That guy showed up and hammered before this game was much more than half a day old (blitz game is that way, folks) and Monkey got to talk in twilight.

Did he want Looker the quickhammerer lynched?

No, he wanted more conventionally scummy guys picked apart. He wanted us to look at guys like Knightmare and Umlaut.
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 2:17 pm

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UNVOTE: Looker
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 2:38 pm

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In post 184, Knightmare491 wrote:VOTE: looker

wtf was that for?
Did you not think he was scum? You put him at L-1.
In post 205, Knightmare491 wrote:You ask dumb questions like these
That's not fair. You just asked me why I lynched a guy.
In post 245, Knightmare491 wrote:Dude just shut the fuck up
Wow you're mean
In post 281, Hoctac wrote:Scum!Looker is lazy and would take a quickhammer most of the time.
How insulting. Are you that familiar with me?
In post 283, Umlaut wrote:Looker seems to have bailed, he's been on site but hasn't posted here.
I have? Where? Where have you seen me on site...? That's a pretty cheap lie.

  • Admittedly, I am a scum's wet dream
    • The hypocrisy of a quickhammer in retribution of a quickhammer is hilarious, though, like the American justice system. Eye for an eye.
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 2:56 pm

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Why Rectiplanes?
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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 3:04 pm

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In post 288, Looker wrote:I have? Where? Where have you seen me on site...? That's a pretty cheap lie.
I thought I saw you had posts on the site after this day started. I may have forgotten how recently this day started.
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Why would you say this
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 3:18 pm

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A vote on me is straight up trolling after the events of today. So is quickhammering the Monkey. Looker is remarkably consistent and game-legible for someone who has a grand total of two posts.

Math says Votato is (probably) not the scum I'm looking for. Math also likes LL for town, which backs up my feelings. Hoctac is conftown, so am I.

Assuming Looker is not Super King Openwolf it's pretty much Knightmare/Umlaut by PoE.

Knightmare flip will be clarifying on Votato. So:

VOTE: Knightmare.
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 3:35 pm

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Could just be votato + Looker.
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 3:37 pm

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In post 111, Knightmare491 wrote:Hey Planes, nice to see you again! (excuse moi, I just woke up forgot to say hi)
Hello to Lucky as well, hopefully we can win this, this time.
This is Knightmare's scummiest post of the game. Assumes Lucky is town.
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 3:38 pm

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I like how Cakez was killed purely to frame Recti and maybe me. So much for that.

Maybe they soulread him as a PR.
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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 3:40 pm

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In post 291, Rectiplanes wrote:Math says Votato is (probably) not the scum I'm looking for. Math also likes LL for town, which backs up my feelings. Hoctac is conftown, so am I.
I would like to see this math.

(No really, professional math dork here, I wanna see the math)
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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 3:45 pm

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What kind of professional math dork?
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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 3:48 pm

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I mean, the unemployed kind tbh, but until recently I designed math models for slot machines.
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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 3:49 pm

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you're not unemployed. you're employed in leisure.
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Thu May 14, 2020 3:55 pm

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Ha

Well basically I have two ways of analyzing it, one is by turning reads (explicit or inferred from actions) into a pile of vectors and seeing which ones are misaligned; those are often scum or PRs. The other is a confusing mess of weighted reads on posts (both mine and other players) which is then further run through some kludgy stuff based on player "style".

The former is much more elegant and interesting because you can check them over time as people's reads evolve (and people are resolved as town/scum). Absolutely nobody is sitting there thinking about "how is my read-vector spinning in multidimensional space" when they're scum, so it has the advantage of being pretty hard to fake.

I don't particularly want to go into it more than that, I think of it as my own personal project/amusement/secret sauce. But honestly you can probably roll your own from what I've told you. Have fun with it.

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