Open 779: Pick Your Power X/Y Game Over!

[Elmo TeH AzN]

[Not_Mafia]

is donc back yet? no? ok have a nice day everyone

this

[DonCorleone]

wow I feel so special

[DonCorleone]

you're all waiting on lil old me? lemme catch up 2 secs

[DonCorleone]

3. i think you should have checked jv or nm because if they're town they're going to end up mislynched at some point, which would suck. that's a very suboptimal check imo

I think I already explained this, but it felt like if either/both were town then they were high equity kill shots for scum which would also be a waste? whereas CSF was someone who I think was unlikely to die but who was within the bounds of mafianess and therefore a useful kill, especially given the arguing yesterday

also your push on alimida kinda looks like trying to divert off a partner @dc

I mean I was wrong on aldus which meant my entire understanding of the game state was wrong -- you were also insisting that aldus was town, so why is it like trying to divert off a partner when I tried to push away towards alim but your attempts to derail aldus weren't, unless you would say that those were like attempts to divert off a partner

[DonCorleone]

you realize that i was given ample oppurtunity at eod to avoid the aldu lynch and i went with it anyways tho,right? i could have forced a nolynch or a melody lynch

also, I'm not a fan of this skitt. I don't think you could have as others (i.e. me) would have compromised onto aldus last minute if needed. and I don't think there was appetite for a melody lynch, because fark asked around at some point like a day or so beforehand and there wasn't sufficient interest. it was one of the things that made me think that aldus was +town as scum didn't seem to want to try to shift onto melody who was like my top TR

[DonCorleone]

I actually really don't like a lot of drpepper's posting but I think he was voting in the same places as me for like over half of D1 and I think that speaks to towniness. I don't agree with his farkset take though.

drpepper, why do you think farkset are scum?

So here the thing. I've had Farkset in my scumdar for the whole day and something didn't sit well with me with how the easily tried to paint me as scum for that hammer.

Btw that was a lol hammer for deadline sake. A lot of people expressed 'oh i think you'll flip town but we gotta get a lynch' yet somehow I was scummy there? That's a whole load of crap.

I mean i don't think he's trying to paint you as scum really? in his most recent post he argues that you're the most likely to be town in the people who sheeped me on alim. and I think the correct position on the hammer is NAI. I don't think scum would be hesitant to hammer their buddy, but I also don't think they'd leap at the chance

I think that more or less aligns with fark's position on you based on the recent post

[DonCorleone]

Ok so turns out my availability might not be as good as i thought so

VOTE: aldus

Might be able to check in here and there but no promises

Yeah Dats could have claimed they weren't online if they didn't bus Aldus

DC dats is probably town

idk, I'm listening but I don't think this is as good as you think given that Datisi had just voted melody and then was coming back onto aldus once fark changed his vote back. that to me looks more like someone realising that there are enough people around that with no appetite for melody, aldus is probably defaulting into being the lynch and wanting to make sure the positioning is good.

the main thing that makes me unsure is couching it in the "not sure if I'll be available so I'm gonna vote now" thing. idk if scum would think like that or would think to make their vote using that justification

[DonCorleone]

Datisi felt like he could be bussing there unwillingly

VOTE: datisi

What about it felt like a bus?

I think I semi-covered this in my last post, but also datisi professing a lack of reads throughout and kind of looking to go elsewhere when it was available, but coming back to it when that wasn't doable. like it wasn't something he really wanted, but something he felt he had to do due to the gamestate to try to avoid suspicion. although my gamestate reads were terrible yesterday lol

[DonCorleone]

dc why do you think you didn't die?

I gotta couple of theories

[Datisi]

waiting for dc to get to the good part like

[DonCorleone]

I counter claim cop

oh, spicy

also, dunn, you're an idiot

[Dunnstral]

Are you ccing me

Yes or no? Is all I ask right now

[DonCorleone]

I think it's fairly apparent that I'm not the cop, and that scum probably figured that out based on the fact that IT WAS A MEME CLAIM that I then ran with

I was planning to out probably tomorrow but maybe the day after with the hope that the real cop would have more results. alternatively, scum has the cop role and that's why they let me fake claim this, or they have a counter to it like rb or jk (but I wouldn't know bc I have no NA)

I claimed CSF because that's actually my most confident TR now and I didn't want to fuck the game up by claiming a fake inno on someone who I thought could plausibly be scum (JV/NM). there was some stuff in CSF ISO that I thought was very, very clearing for them re:aldus!flip so I felt most comfortable putting them off the table for today.

now I know Dunn didn't investigate me, because if he had then he'd be staying shut the fuck up, so I hope he has a red elsewhere because if not then on top of him fishing yesterday this is the worst play in the history of bad plays

[Dunnstral]

The bad play may have been fake claiming cop and providing elaborate justifications for your night actions

If scum knew you were fake claiming there's no reason for you to continue fake claiming. People won't believe me if I try to cc on day 3

Also, you pushing me day 1 for doubting your claim is suspect considering you're not the role you said you were

But whatever, I'd probably need to out today regardless; I checked JacksonVirgo, he's town

[DonCorleone]

DC, what do you think of me now? I'll have to do some analysis because I did not expect Aldu to flip scum at all. I thought melody would flip scum. The fact that melody died over .... the top draft people or even the cop claim implies that either one of the top draft people are scum and/or they felt that melody was so confirmed town that it was a priority kill over all.

p.s. I may or may not have lied about being a PR

idk, you're also somewhat +town now for aldus flipping 2. I definitely think that my analysis of why you were scum was wrong so you're back in a "to be sorted" pool for me where I'm gonna run through your content again. the main thing I dislike is you kind of retracting your PR claim because if that's true then you risked forcing another PR to out unnecessarily just to survive, which I don't think is very town vs trying to out a PR potentially if you're scum. but equally, this could just be bad play, I don't think you're inherently scum for it especially when balanced against the mechanical reason to clear you of aldus flipping 2

[DonCorleone]

The bad play may have been fake claiming cop and providing elaborate justifications for your night actions

If scum knew you were fake claiming there's no reason for you to continue fake claiming. People won't believe me if I try to cc on day 3

Also, you pushing me day 1 for doubting your claim is suspect considering you're not the role you said you were

But whatever, I'd probably need to out today regardless; I checked JacksonVirgo, he's town

you pushing me D1 felt like you might be TMIing -- I didn't really think anyone as low down as we are would be getting a role that strong, but scum!you could have known that I was fake claiming if a buddy had the role. and I really don't think trying to out the vig/PGO was a good move

and scum may have known I was fake claiming, but it's also very possible that they might have used a blocking action on me in which case I kind of succeeded. although I do now realise what you mean, that they would have known when I claimed my clear today that I was fake claiming

[Dunnstral]

the main thing I dislike is you kind of retracting your PR claim because if that's true then you risked forcing another PR to out unnecessarily just to survive, which I don't think is very town vs trying to out a PR potentially if you're scum. but equally, this could just be bad play, I

If mafia know you're fake claiming, why are you still lying to just the town?

[DonCorleone]

the main thing I dislike is you kind of retracting your PR claim because if that's true then you risked forcing another PR to out unnecessarily just to survive, which I don't think is very town vs trying to out a PR potentially if you're scum. but equally, this could just be bad play, I

If mafia know you're fake claiming, why are you still lying to just the town?

huh? idk what you're saying, how would mafia know alim was fakeclaiming if he's town fakeclaiming?

[Dunnstral]

On mobile, second half is asking why you're announcing cop innos when mafia would know you're fake when the only people you'd confuse is the town

[DonCorleone]

oh, you didn't mean to quote?

I didn't realise that mafia would know I was fake if I'd been blocked and was giving the result anyway

I still think CSF is a very safe bet for town, so I thought calling a correct TR might enhance the likelihood of them believing me today and NKing me tonight

[DonCorleone]

people I'm not really interested in lynching today: dunn, JV, CSF, fark, skitt, alim

people I could be talked round on: drpepper

people I'm okay with lynching today: icon, drew, NM

people I want to lynch today: datisi

[DonCorleone]

Town fakeclaiming cop is gamethrowing, i'm not going to accept that.

[DonCorleone]

datisi datisi datisi i summon thee

what are your thoughts on dunnstral and alimdia?

(also NM are you planning on actually doing something?)

i don't have any aaaaaaaaaa

alright good talk

alright

prooooobably not S/S interacting?

fairly hard disagree? this reminds me of lilith and Maria talking in GnR -- interaction with very little substance behind it that I think can easily be for show

[DonCorleone]

ftr, I like the dragon a bit more for page 54 and fark a little bit less. I don't think fark being excessively rigid is scum!indicative for him, I think that's just personality indicative, nor do I think I necessarily agree entirely with icon's take on what should be done re: both claims, but what I did like was icon actually standing up and arguing for it while under fire. idk if scum!icon does that