Large Normal 228: Bananas - Game Over

[gobbledygook]

VC 1.3

Tchill13
osuka (2) - Umlaut, Black Ranger
Saudade
ManateeDude
Black Ranger (1) - LuckyLuciano
bob3141 (1) - osuka
Wake88 (1) - fwogcarf
fwogcarf (3) - Nahdia, bob3141, SirCakez
Umlaut (1) - Drew-Sta
Titus
Drew-Sta
LuckyLuciano
SirCakez
Nahdia

Not Voting

(5) - Tchill13, Saudade, ManateeDude, Wake88, Titus

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to remove someone from the town.

Deadline

: (expired on 2020-06-09 12:00:00)

Titus is VLA.[/color]

[Drew-Sta]

Cakez' answer to me in 141 is good, leaning town there.

Then why

did

you contribute to [the story]?

You're effectively rewriting how something is to be read, and I don't believe that comes from a town place.

I contributed because I didn't want to be Boring McBuzzkill and figured I could give it benefit of the doubt until it actually did turn out to be a problem.

(Honestly I like the question though)

Why did it become a problem though?

[Titus]

Drew, I am not looking to meta you to determine alignment. I think using meta for alignment is trash too. I am looking to see your strengths and weaknesses as a player, not your alignment. I am going to be dead before I solve this game. My goal is to leave town in a position to solve it.

[osuka]

@osuka - are you scum reading bob?

yes

[osuka]

either bob is scum or they're playing a game like three standard deviations worse than the usual townie

[Umlaut]

Why did it become a problem though?

It didn't, which is why I didn't say anything about my skepticism until people started calling Black Ranger scummy and citing his post saying the story was stupid. My point there wasn't really about the story itself, it was that thinking it's stupid is a completely reasonable opinion for town to have and a bad reason to scumread Black Ranger.

[SirCakez]

Stopped reading bob vs osuka after about 10 posts. Way to clog up the game guys.

VOTE: fwogcarf

ok

Scum reaction
VOTE: feog
Still SRing Black Ranger. Nahdia asked why? Because his page 1/2 content looked like scum trying to get posts in as "content"

Who's more scummy, me or Ranger?

You cuz posts like 145 stink and Black Ranger hasn't posted in a bit

Not crazy about Drew entrance. Seems like a lot of nothing plus the Umlaut SR.
No idea how to read bob.

[SirCakez]

Nahdia seems sort of townie? I haven't played with her in ages so my meta is junk.

[Drew-Sta]

Drew, I am not looking to meta you to determine alignment. I think using meta for alignment is trash too. I am looking to see your strengths and weaknesses as a player, not your alignment. I am going to be dead before I solve this game. My goal is to leave town in a position to solve it.

Ok, that makes sense. Feel free to ask questions as you see fit.

@osuka - are you scum reading bob?

yes

Why?

either bob is scum or they're playing a game like three standard deviations worse than the usual townie

That is not a scumread.

@Umlaut - you write in 149:

until it actually did turn out to be a problem.

Then type the below:

Why did it become a problem though?

It didn't, which is why I didn't say anything about my skepticism until people started calling Black Ranger scummy and citing his post saying the story was stupid. My

point there wasn't really about the story itself, it was that thinking it's stupid is a completely reasonable opinion for town to have and a bad reason to scumread Black Ranger

.

I'm struggling to reconcile this. Please clarify. Either the story was a problem, or it wasn't. I can agree with the bolded in 155.

[Titus]

Drew, glad to know I have your permission. What would you do if I made a meta case against you? Call me out for being scum?

[Umlaut]

I contributed because I didn't want to be Boring McBuzzkill and figured I could give it benefit of the doubt until it actually did turn out to be a problem.

@Drew

I guess you're reading this as follows:

I figured at that time, "I can give it benefit of the doubt." Then, when it turned out to be a problem, I stopped figuring that.

But actually what I meant is more like:

I figured at that time, "I can give it benefit of the doubt until it turns out to be a problem."

[Nahdia]

so realtalk, did anyone else just like... not read the whole bob/osuka thing? show of hands? o/

Why?

sarcasm, my dude

Nahdia seems sort of townie? I haven't played with her in ages so my meta is junk.

mmmmm why? any reasoning besides stale meta?

[Drew-Sta]

Drew, glad to know I have your permission.

What would you do if I made a meta case against you? Call me out for being scum?

I'm hoping the bold is dry sarcasm. I honestly complied because I have to trust you're going to use it well for us to find scum.

Re what I'd do - what can I do? You're the only true, neutral arbiter. I would defend myself, but likely get frustrated at the same time. Euphony did it to me in a game, and they were scum, and it really shit me. I think, because I know you're town, I'd get slightly less frustrated as I could see you were trying to help town. But it's hard being town and trying to defend yourself on things you've done in previous games when the context is different.

Just some thoughts.

I contributed because I didn't want to be Boring McBuzzkill and figured I could give it benefit of the doubt until it actually did turn out to be a problem.

@Drew

I guess you're reading this as follows:

I figured at that time, "I can give it benefit of the doubt." Then, when it turned out to be a problem, I stopped figuring that.

But actually what I meant is more like:

I figured at that time, "I can give it benefit of the doubt until it turns out to be a problem."

This really pings me. I feel like you've slipped and are backtracking.

[Umlaut]

Then either you deny that the latter is a legitimate parse of 149, or you admit it's a legitimate parse but you think you couldn't have chosen the wrong parse of an ambiguous sentence. Which is it?

---

Thinking Black Ranger is town. 52 and 54 are actually quite towny posts IMO: scum has nothing to gain from starting that particular fight and the reasoning he gives (both for not liking it and for not commenting sooner) resonates with me. I think it's fair to question 55 but I don't necessarily take that vote at face value as being random.

Nahdia is kind of towny I guess but I don't see anything yet that would be hard for scum to emulate.

fwogcarf is not exactly giving me town pings but I need someone to explain the wagon because right now it looks to be based on some pretty weak surface-level points. Still want a response from Bob in particular re. 139.

[Drew-Sta]

Then either you deny that the latter is a legitimate parse of 149, or you admit it's a legitimate parse but you think you couldn't have chosen the wrong parse of an ambiguous sentence. Which is it?

---

Thinking Black Ranger is town. 52 and 54 are actually quite towny posts IMO: scum has nothing to gain from starting that particular fight and the reasoning he gives (both for not liking it and for not commenting sooner) resonates with me. I think it's fair to question 55 but I don't necessarily take that vote at face value as being random.

Nahdia is kind of towny I guess but I don't see anything yet that would be hard for scum to emulate.

fwogcarf is not exactly giving me town pings but I need someone to explain the wagon because right now it looks to be based on some pretty weak surface-level points. Still want a response from Bob in particular re. 139.

I think you're playing semantics. I don't understand why you'd be ambiguous on something like that.

I need to go back and reread what you've said.

[Wake1]

Perfect. Thank you. My goal is to get to know you. Extreme confidence is not required. This should help me get to know how to get the best from you.

Huh.

Well that's awfully cordial of you.

[ManateeDude]

Catching up now <3

[ManateeDude]

Manatee, you too. I didn't realize you subbed in.

good(ish?) game (vigged a scum)

Average game

[ManateeDude]

Im not sure if my migraine is from the fact that I had to read that bob v osuka arguement or the fact its three in the morning either way im gonna wager theres a minimum of one townie and move on

[ManateeDude]

I dont have much else to comment on besides I kind of actually like fwog this game already?? dont like the votes on him either

[Drew-Sta]

I dont have much else to comment on besides I kind of actually like fwog this game already?? dont like the votes on him either

What about him do you think you like?

[ManateeDude]

I dont have much else to comment on besides I kind of actually like fwog this game already?? dont like the votes on him either

What about him do you think you like?

I really like his nonchalance idk its not a full read just a ping for now

[bob3141]

so realtalk, did anyone else just like... not read the whole bob/osuka thing? show of hands? o/

Why?

sarcasm, my dude

Nahdia seems sort of townie? I haven't played with her in ages so my meta is junk.

mmmmm why? any reasoning besides stale meta?

oh those posts at that time is certianly worth a little read. I can understand not wanting to read osuka posts as it was mostly nonsenses although informative. People like that are just to easy to mess, was quite fun.

my posts 88 is the start of none bob/oskuka stuff. although in the next 6 posts there is one post to osuka.

[bob3141]

I'm retracting my scumread on osuka and moving it to bob

will explain later

so what was the bases for your scum read on osuka in first place?

It came and went without you giving it any backing. And has gone as soon as his wagon went away.


And what makes you scum read me now?

If you scum read osuka and now scum read me. Why at no point have you voted for either of us.

[bob3141]

@drew regarding question pointed at post 60. The question was to ask what lucky thought of blacks push. I made no inference on rangers push my self. A question that was intended to dig out luckys reasoning for his scum read of black

A question lucky just answered with fluff question.

I personaly doubt rangers push comes from scum. And do find it a bit suspect that lucky cant come up with reason as to why he thinks rangers push comes from scum