Open 779: Pick Your Power X/Y Game Over!

[Iconeum]

Dc you really should not have done that. It sounded like a fake-claim, especially the checking csf bit
I think they're both town despite that tho

Fark i dont get the benefit of having jk claim but not the doc/rb slot

VOTE: datisi

if donC flips scum, we are lynching you next I think

[JacksonVirgo]

Dc you really should not have done that. It sounded like a fake-claim, especially the checking csf bit
I think they're both town despite that tho

Fark i dont get the benefit of having jk claim but not the doc/rb slot

VOTE: datisi

if donC flips scum, we are lynching you next I think

No

[Iconeum]

Vote Count 1.Final

Alduskkel (8)

- Melody, Cat Scratch Fever, Not_Mafia (Brassherad), Iconeum, Skitter30, Farkset, Datisi, DoctorPepper

Melody (3)

- Alduskkel, Doctor Drew, JacksonVirgo

Alimdia (1)

- DonCorleone,

Not_mafia (1)

- Almidia

Doctor Pepper (1)

- Dunnstral

Not Voting (0):
With 14 Alive, 8 Votes To Lynch.

Deadline is in: (expired on 2020-05-27 08:00:00)

VCA anyone?

incredibly unlikely that ALL scum are gonna have bussed there.
that leaves a pool of (Drew, DonC, Alim)
with aldus flipping scum, JV being cleared, and dunn's claim.

In that pool I'm Always lynching DonC and i'd lynch it even if it was just for policy.

[Iconeum]

I'd still much rather lynch doncorleone today. I don't want him anywhere near lylo.

ok
dc is scum fake-claiming cop ... what does he think the real cop is going to do ... not check him? is he just gambling from like p2 that there isn't a cop?

walk me through what scum!dc is thinking all game

ehhhhhhh
hmmmmm

i mean, cop *didn't* check him but...
i see

[Iconeum]

DC retracts claim, Dunn has green check. We still don't lynch DC because he is probably town for the play in the first place.

The bad play may have been fake claiming cop and providing elaborate justifications for your night actions

If scum knew you were fake claiming there's no reason for you to continue fake claiming. People won't believe me if I try to cc on day 3

Also, you pushing me day 1 for doubting your claim is suspect considering you're not the role you said you were

But whatever, I'd probably need to out today regardless; I checked JacksonVirgo, he's town

Good clear

VOTE: donc

What happened here?

I said 'is probably town *for the play* in the first place'.
Had a completely different play then 'lOl iT waS a MemE' in mind

[Iconeum]

ok i'm caught up and i'm exactly nowhere with my reads

a lot more unsure about donC scum now then during my very quick weekend read

definitely see skitter's take about the 'why would scum do that'. there's a chance it's a scum gambit, but it's small i think

however if we decide donC is town, then the lynchbracket I just made gets smaller and stands imo

[Farkset]

I kinda want to believe that scum!pepper wouldn't insist on a baseless push like that and would probably join on a better quest to advance his wincon

Before going to that step though, drpepper can you scumcase me again? I forgot why you were scumreading me in the first place

-Farkran

TBH it may be conf bias on my part.

But I am not entirely convinced you didn't distance Aldus and had to push with the lynch.

Plus, I feel like you've been shading my slot and I inherently dislike that. Your day 1 shade on my hammer was bad and calling me town in Day 2 start after that felt like you were washing your hands.

Where did i distance aldus? In my memory i have been the main pusher of aldus, or at least immediately after melody talked to me, and insisted on going there up to 2 hours before deadline when i changed my mind about it and almost shut the wagon off - hence why i also called your hammer poor. The point, however, is that i didn't try to shut it off when it would have mattered, i.e. when melody was actually popular or when the wagon on almidia was formed.

I'm not confident that you are scum, but i dislike how you are not engaging with the gamestate and your only answer when prodded for content is "lynch fark". The choice to push towards my direction seems unfit for a scum agenda, but it's also a very lazy push from your side that could justify your lack of reads.

Plus, if you strongly believe DonC did an anti town play and would reach lylo, shouldn't you want this resolved with a lynch?

I am much more satisfied with a DC lynch though, i think this is the correct choice for today. Glad to see that interest is building up.

VOTE: DonCorleone

-Farkran

[Farkset]

dunn i think you should check in {nm/dc} tonight

I see checking DC as a waste of time (because he needs to be lynched anyways, if not today, soon enough) and a bad suggestion given the plausible circumstances, i countersuggest {Iconeum, DoctorPepper, N_M} instead.

doc if they exist ought to be on dunn
if there happens to be a town watcher who didn't use their shot being on dunn would be a good idea too

100% agreed

-Farkran

[Iconeum]

fark do you think the gamestate would improve if i was conftown or *extremely* close to it right now?

[Iconeum]

mea culpa just ignore that post plz

[DoctorPepper]

VOTE: DonC

[DoctorPepper]

@Fark

I don't really see a lot of game state to interact with. I dislike a lot of your interactions with me. I know I'm town. I think you've been purposefully misrepping me. I think your takes on me are flaky, especially with how you reacted to me hammer.

I see that DonC is gonna be a problem to keep in lylo and TBH I don't think it's low hanging fruit because if he was town, scum would actually not want him as the D2 lynch because of all this WIFOM

[Farkset]

@pepper

But do you have any significant read on anyone else?

Could you post a readlist/thoughts summary or something?

-F

[DoctorPepper]

Town:
Skitter (wouldn't pick 2 with Aldus? Alim (Counterwagon to scum), Drew (wouldn't pick Neighborizer as scum, easily verified claim), NM (this is not how scum plays)

Null
CSF (town lean, mostly gut), Ico (disliked 1550 on the weird Skitter push but I can't really remember much), Dunnstral (debating if Cop automatically means town cop), DC (debating if gambit is anti town but not scum), JV (legit have no read)

Scum:
Dats (disinterest in the game? I mean if Dats was that uninspired he could just flake out right?), Fark (you know this)

[DoctorPepper]

fark do you think the gamestate would improve if i was conftown or *extremely* close to it right now?

Wat

[Datisi]

Spoiler: relevant quotes on drpepper

Ok so turns out my availability might not be as good as i thought so

VOTE: aldus

Might be able to check in here and there but no promises

Yeah Dats could have claimed they weren't online if they didn't bus Aldus

DC dats is probably town

Null
DC (debating if gambit is anti town but not scum)

Scum:
Dats (disinterest in the game? I mean if Dats was that uninspired he could just flake out right?), Fark (you know this)

VOTE: DonCorleone

VOTE: DonC

> first i'm probably town because i could've claimed to not be online
> now i'm scum for ??? disinterest???
> his other scumread is voting donc
> instead of voting for his first scumread that he called town earlier (me) when there is somewhat support for that lynch, he's instead voting a nullread who did a gambit

along

with his scumread (farkset)

ok

checks out

[DoctorPepper]

PoE

[Datisi]

Datisi you should write the towncase on yourself

the towncase was gonna be how a while back (micro 892) i rolled scum with a friend, and even when things went completely to shit i wasn't letting go because i wanted to win the game

and aldus and i have been friends since last year so the same logic would've been i wouldn't give up/lose motivation if i was scum with him here

but the thing is the game before this one (micro 940) i rolled masons with an old friend
and completely gave up/lost all motivation when things completely went to shit
so i no longer think that argument would be clearing or even fair to make

[Datisi]

PoE

the fucc does that even

mean

here

[DoctorPepper]

You're scum FMPOV by process of elimination.

[Datisi]

with fark?

[Datisi]

how tf am i scum by PoE if you literally have 5 null reads (one of which you're currently voting??)

that's not how PoE works

that's not how mafia works

[JacksonVirgo]

I am green-checked lad, lock-town this ass

[Farkset]

I think the latest exchange is towny for Datisi, and it looks genuine disalignment vs pepper. TvT (60% confidence) or TvS (40%), never SvS

-Farkran

[Farkset]

If we want to talk about numerology in this setup though, i don't think that, with this specific playerlist, picking the same numbers would be outside of the scumrange of any team. About the 2's i do believe that almidia is town by virtue of being a counterwagon to aldus, but skitter... eh. Keep in mind my words about skitter if she gets to lylo.

The 1's are also not hard disaligned from my pov, i find it hard that dunn/don, with their own vote progression, would rather not lynch themselves right now. At least dunn should want to lynch don imo, maybe i'm wrong in how they approach to this game but i seriously think that at least 1 scum is in there. Ico vs donc sounds a much more believable disalignment, so once again TvT or TvS there. Datisi is... kind of a mystery, when i think about it there's a significant amount of independent thought from a slot that claims to be completely demotivated. I just have a disalignment read in dat vs pepper.

-Farkran