Mini Normal 2139: No Flavor Allowed - Game Over

[Auro]

If it's Hoctac+Micc please don't blame me afterwards, it's all Umlaut's fault

[Firebringer]

If it's you+Micc as I believe I get quik'd when Micc comes online

This is the only possibility that has any chance of being real and its stupid.

HEY DID U FORGET ABOUT THIS!?!?!!?!?

[Firebringer]

Fuck wrong post.

[Firebringer]

If it's Hoctac+Micc

Micc can't be anything else besides a Traitor at this point and we have gone over it a like 13 times!!!!

THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[Auro]

If it's Hoctac+Micc

Micc can't be anything else besides a Traitor at this point and we have gone over it a like 13 times!!!!

O yea, in which case I won't be quik'd, but I think they could prolly just go for it anyway. Idk.

[Firebringer]

If it's you+Micc as I believe I get quik'd when Micc comes online

if its me and Micc we win when we lynch Hoctac so ur not getting lynched.

[Auro]

I mean, I'm the guy Looker voted with 2 votes, and Umlaut was voting me, so your two votes constitutes a win anyway.

[Auro]

Looker and Umlaut can still see the light and change their mind.

[Firebringer]

I now declare myself scum.
And that i have decided to protect u at all costs from being mislynched.

Ur welcome.

[Umlaut]

If this is going to be a 2v2 I’m not really willing to engage in an argument to convince the other side they’re scum.

If umlaut/looker want to engage I’ll be around to respond

In the universe where Micc is a traitor, this would pretty much 100% be him hinting to Firebringer that if a chance presents itself to team-hammer town he will be around for it.

I just provided that chance and FB declined it.

[Auro]

I wouldn't at all put stock in that sort of thing and yolo vote when the other voter on the wagon is active. The votes would have to be like within seconds of each other.
Without a PT the only way to pull that off is to naturally vote.

[Umlaut]

I could leave my vote on you for longer if that will be more convincing?

[Umlaut]

It's also

incredibly obvious to anyone paying attention at all

that if FB and Micc were going to conspire to frame someone today, it would be me.

[Auro]

You're already assuming there won't be a quickhammer in that scenario. And if Micc votes first, the {Hoc+Micc} universe lets Hoc hammer.
Hoc's lack of presence is a bit worrying.

[Firebringer]

It's also

incredibly obvious to anyone paying attention at all

that if FB and Micc were going to conspire to frame someone today, it would be me.

i honestly thought about checking you but decided that u would never make the kill because of Micc.
in a world where Auro/U or Hoctac/U is the team, no reason for u to make a kill and out yourself when Micc could have cleared u.

[Auro]

It's also

incredibly obvious to anyone paying attention at all

that if FB and Micc were going to conspire to frame someone today, it would be me.

Exactly, which is why they wouldn't.

[Firebringer]

also if u were scum u would have killed Micc. Which was obvious.

[Firebringer]

to me if micc turns up dead, Umlaut looked really suspicious.
But only Auro/Hoctac would perform the kill because I could check Umlaut which would undo the efforts of trying to kill Micc before getting "outed". So just bank on me not checking the neighbor and worst comes to worse just claim i am lying and try to get me lynched in LYLO.

[Umlaut]

It's also

incredibly obvious to anyone paying attention at all

that if FB and Micc were going to conspire to frame someone today, it would be me.

Exactly, which is why they wouldn't.

This is the shittiest WIFOM argument I've ever seen. I don't hold it against you because I'm pretty confident you're just caught scum putting up the best defense you can, but it's shitty nonetheless.

If you were town you would definitely vote me in that situation, don't say you wouldn't.
So would Hoctac.
So would Looker.

None of you would think twice about the PRs showing you exactly what you already believed anyway.

[Auro]

Not at all. I'd re-evaluate just like I did now.
All WIFOM arguments are inherently shitty in that they argue a for the reality of a less probable scenario, but yes - stacked PRs showing us EXACTLY something I believed already is always fishy in LyLo.

[Auro]

Also, they'd know Hoctac was a likely vig from Hoctac's softs and claims.

[Firebringer]

auro ur literally banking this game on me/micc
where i am banking this game on:

Hoctac/U
Hoctac/Umlaut
Hoctac/Looker
Hoctac/Micc

any of those and I win. Who do u think is more likely right right?

[Firebringer]

Also, they'd know Hoctac was a likely vig from Hoctac's softs and claims.

HOW WOULD WE KNOW HE IS A REAL VIG?!?!?!?!

[Auro]

Umm, you should hold any arguments against me. Maybe I'm having a problem in communication in defining my perspective. If I'm town I would love to change my mind by realizing I'm on the wrong track.

[Firebringer]

Hoctac hasn't killed one person apparently. Why would anyone think he is a real vig.
Why do u think he is a real vig when his shooting doesn't make sense as town.