Mafia of Revelations ~ Game Over!

[Starbuck]

I didn't create any sort of "empty calorie" discussion. The fact that you are assuming my motives without talking to me makes you look like an ass, not me.

not sure how you could see this as a personal sleight (that I'm somehow calling you an ass?), so inclined to think this is manufactured

It's a play on "assume."

[Starbuck]

UNVOTE: xRECKONERx
VOTE: Blair

I'm still not liking that policy push.

[Green Crayons]

Oh i got you.


You still have had an over-exaggerated reaction to a minor suspicion I mentioned once until I was prompted by Auro to explain.

I don't see you having equal qualms with AGar's suspicions of MT, farside, and myself for "empty calorie" posts without engaging us. (I borrowed AGar's term, but his suspicions post-dated mine.)

Shows particular sensitivity to a pretty flip suspicion of you. Suggests AI. Worth voting over.

[xRECKONERx]

AGAR please let me know what you think of Morning Tweet in 20 words or less thanks

[Auro]

UNVOTE:

[xRECKONERx]

UNVOTE: xRECKONERx
VOTE: Blair

I'm still not liking that policy push.

Sorry, which policy push from Blair? The game is a bit of a haze.

[Green Crayons]

i mean, UT is late to the party, but he's voicing the same suspicion, just not directed at anyone specifically:

Well the IAAU one is simple. There are two posts there and his vote is the kind of minor inconsistency scum go for.
GC has a more developed ISO of different stuff, but most recently 305 calls a bunch of people suspicious and disappointing without really doing anything.

We caught two scum in the first 10 pages? Well that was easy!

I'm kind of surprised Reck and Puppy are such wallpaper this game. Not really what I was expecting from either

im lurking, mafia philosophy is kinda boring and i don't feel like inventing some strong takes so i can effortpost with the big boys

I'll tell you a secret: a lot of times when people post a lot of words it's because they have nothing to say

there's a fine line to walk between explanation and obfuscation. a lot of the previous pages falls into the latter category

tbf, I think UT's invocation of the suspicion is actually suspicious in itself because of how unobtrusive it is.

[xRECKONERx]

Yeah UT is probably scum but he promised not to NK me until at least Day 3 so I'll just go after him then nbd

[Untrod Tripod]

unobtrusive

unobtrustive isn't really my go to, I just have nothing to add to the masturbatory "I'm going to solve the game with this full read list" early D1 posts

[Untrod Tripod]

here's one: Reck saying "oh, UT is probably scum here", me saying "yeah but I'll NK you later bb" and them him saying "okay I'll leave UT alone til Day 3" is the dance we do when we're both town or both scum

lynch one of us to find out which it is!

spoiler alert:

we're both town

oh no, you have me doing self-meta. bad UT.

[xRECKONERx]

meta is fucking garbage

now you're def scum

[Kmd4390]

Even llamarble didn't add anything when he voted.

Spoiler: I added Aurobuddy!

VOTE: Green Crayons
May I nominate Auro for buddy #1?

Reck is my bbf I cba to vote him rn

vote porkens

lol IDGAF ama

was going to vote Auro for his no lynch suggestion

but this is even better

VOTE: Untrod Tripod

Once upon a time that might have been townish, but people learned to fake insufferable long ago, and are particularly likely to at the beginning.

I think that evaluating a single meme (joke) post as "insufferable" is unfair and inaccurate, even for a player who may have never seen such a thing. I also do not see how you can identify that CLAP's posts are natural whereas MT's aren't to arrive at those conclusions that quickly.

VOTE: Llamarble


Green Crayons, can you put into words why that post from Untrod Tripod was scummy?

i dont like any of it

Okay, Noob-ish players, tell me about you!

What brought you to MS?
What's been your favorite *finished* game that you played so far?
What's your favorite role and why?
Who are your top 3 to 5 favorite Scummers and why?

Wouldn't really call myself a noob, lol, but:

1. Played Mafia IRL at college, googled online, came here.
2. I honestly like most games I play - but perhaps the most entertaining one was one where I was a jester among two others (and both town and mafia would lose if all the jesters got out, and we don't know each other) and we all managed to get lynched to a perfect win.
3. Vanilla Town, it perfectly suits my dayplay style: I don't need to worry about "surviving" and I don't need the overhead of who to target.
4. I have way too many at this point one name you guys may recognize would be Thor

not scum together but this call and response isn't great for either

I am not a giggler, but I giggled a little bit.

If green crayons flips scum this will be worth looking at. But you added nothing as far as why green crayons is scum.

_____________

I actually like the way iamausername responded to his wagon so

Unvote

And Starbucks reaction to green crayons feels similar to how she reacted to me and now we've got a page 14 continuation of RQS that just feels like busywork so I'm back to

Vote Starbuck

[xRECKONERx]

why do i have a kodak moment banner

[Kmd4390]

You must have done something memorable at some point but I forget what it was.

[Blair]

UNVOTE: xRECKONERx
VOTE: Blair

I'm still not liking that policy push.

My vote on IIAU is pretty clearly not a policy push. You have me confused with someone else.

[Starbuck]

UNVOTE: xRECKONERx
VOTE: Blair

I'm still not liking that policy push.

Sorry, which policy push from Blair? The game is a bit of a haze.

The whole thing about voting IAUN for only having 2 posts, but simultaneously ignoring UT and AGar. All 3 have less posts than the mod, but it's still early Day 1-ish, so I don't get it.

[AGar]

AGar's "Call and response"? Is that what we call answering questions now? shade, that conflates Starbuck's call for "empty calories" discussions (AGar's words) and several responses with actual, scum-hunting questions, is disappointingly bland.

I might not agree with the premise of the questions, but I at least can get behind a player trying to meaningfully engage with players they’re unfamiliar with as opposed to willfully ignoring progression of the game to continue on fruitless discussion.

I specifically called your shit out because it was a weak attempt to manufacture a read on someone as opposed to having any real grounding in reality.

I don't like the green crayon votes so I'll jump on the counter wagon.

Unvote, Vote iamausername

why dont you like the GC votes

They feel like a wagon for the sake of a wagon. Almost every vote felt random. Hoopla had four votes which made her the lead wagon then all of the sudden starts selling green crayons as THE wagon that everyone needs to be on and says there's town points in it for everyone who jumps on then it just becomes a thing. Puppy jumps on. You jump on. Agar jumps on and now there's four votes and I have no idea why. Every one of those votes rubbed me the wrong way. While I seriously doubt that's a wagon of four scum, I'd be absolutely shocked if it wasn't at least 1-2, especially involving hoopla who I'd otherwise been townreading. Even llamarble didn't add anything when he voted. So five votes and zero stated reasons.

Are you actually reading the thread or are you getting sparknotes somewhere?

IAUN has dos posts

If we’re lynching based on post count, then you can go ahead and off me first.

AGAR please let me know what you think of Morning Tweet in 20 words or less thanks

Pointless posting intent on clogging the thread and lagging the game behind. Lots of words, no substance.

[xRECKONERx]

UNVOTE: xRECKONERx
VOTE: Blair

I'm still not liking that policy push.

Sorry, which policy push from Blair? The game is a bit of a haze.

The whole thing about voting IAUN for only having 2 posts, but simultaneously ignoring UT and AGar. All 3 have less posts than the mod, but it's still early Day 1-ish, so I don't get it.

Ah I see. I don't think it was policy, I saw it as a pressure vote?

Vote the people not contributing until they contribute or die, idk, seems pretty okay to me

[Starbuck]

UNVOTE: xRECKONERx
VOTE: Blair

I'm still not liking that policy push.

My vote on IIAU is pretty clearly not a policy push. You have me confused with someone else.

How is Post 338 not policy?

[Starbuck]

Vote the people not contributing until they contribute or die, idk, seems pretty okay to me

It's also a great thing for scum to hide behind. I just don't like it.

[CantHateAPuppy]

The whole thing about voting IAUN for only having 2 posts, but simultaneously ignoring UT and AGar. All 3 have less posts than the mod, but it's still early Day 1-ish, so I don't get it.

can you quote blair making this accusation

[iamausername]

Talk me through a few of your reads with reasons.

i'll do my best, though some of them i definitely haven't articulated to myself yet.

ABR

- i like his VPB vote, i like the way he tried to glean understanding of the GC and username wagons and determined that neither were good choices, everything there felt natural and made sense to me.

Blair

- as i said, fully in favour of trying to start a counterwagon to GC when she did and her reasons for choosing me are completely reasonable.

farside

- the questions she has been asking feel like genuine efforts to try to get reads on people.

Green Crayons

- i like his flippant reaction to being wagoned for no apparent reason, and i dislike him being wagoned for no apparent reason.

Hoopla

- too cute to be scum. idk, 252 in particular feels town to me and i don't know why.

Kmd

- agree with others who have said his mistake about ABR "forcing" himself into the alliance that he started is less likely to come from scum. openly voting me because i was a counterwagon to GC doesn't feel like scum and giving no reason that was about me in particular doesn't feel like a scum approach to that situation.

Llama

- 330 feels particularly sincere. like, i feel the frustration of having a strong gut read on someone and struggling to articulate it in a way that makes sense to anyone else. it helps that i agree with his gut read too.

Morning Tweet

- just feels like she is relaxed and excited to be here. doesn't feel like she is forcing anything.

Porkens

- i guess he's town for even bothering to go there.

Starbuck

- i feel like she's needlessly drawing a lot of attention on herself with things like playing GTKAS in the thread, and her outrage at any suggestion that this might not be the most useful thing to be doing doesn't feel forced.

[Llamarble]

She voted IAAU because IAAU based their vote on the kind of dubious inconsistency scum tend to base their votes on.

Now I get why Blair was frustrated...

[Blair]

UNVOTE: xRECKONERx
VOTE: Blair

I'm still not liking that policy push.

My vote on IIAU is pretty clearly not a policy push. You have me confused with someone else.

How is Post 338 not policy?

omfg

I was answering Porkens.

Porkens asked me where he supposedly took a stab at the wagon.

So I quoted his post back at him where he shaded the wagon for being on someone with only two posts.

Honestly, in the context of all the other things I've said about this (like when I suggested Porkens suspicious for saying that!), how could this possibly be a good-faith reading on your part?

[Auro]

Llama - 330 feels particularly sincere. like, i feel the frustration of having a strong gut read on someone and struggling to articulate it in a way that makes sense to anyone else. it helps that i agree with his gut read too

I had the same thought about Le Marlboro: "reminds me of how I play scum" and the lack of further articulation is indeed town indicative.