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Post Post #775 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:50 am

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In post 764, GuiltyLion wrote:Italiano I'd also like to jam with you next time you come to the thread, do you have any particular townreads/scumreads in the other players right now? Are you getting any scum vibes from either Ydrasse or UNOwen?
In post 764, GuiltyLion wrote:Italiano I'd also like to jam with you next time you come to the thread, do you have any particular townreads/scumreads in the other players right now? Are you getting any scum vibes from either Ydrasse or UNOwen?
I’d like to keep my thoughts to myself at the moment. Giving as how I’ve been re-evaluating this game and how my reads have changed a bit, I don’t want to tip off who I’m thinking about and allow them to change up their games or highlight an angle that I bring up and try to use it for their benefit or against someone else. Besides, I think I’ve given enough up to this point to give you an idea of where I’m more or less gonna be leaning.

I will keep asking and answering questions though, but I just feel more comfortable keeping my reads to myself. At least for right now. Talk to me again on Day 3 and if I survive.
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Post Post #776 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:51 am

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Psshh, that was only supposed to be quoted once.
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Post Post #777 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:42 pm

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Actually I agree with GL.

Yeah, we want you to be today's elimination target.

But the thing is, why waste a day of discussion when we can talk about who else could be scum?
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Post Post #778 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:45 pm

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In post 765, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:To me the other potential scum could be mini or unowen, with 72 being one of them.
However, if 72 is town then my reads are off.
I plan to do a reread but need to find the time.
Docpepper is town along with jt now.
Hypothetical: You have a cop result from day 0 on me that says I;m town.
Who is scum in that scenario?
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Post Post #779 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:53 pm

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Quick question when does day end?
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Post Post #780 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:54 pm

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Never mind I found it some reason I though it was sooner than that
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Post Post #781 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:07 pm

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In post 765, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:To me the other potential scum could be mini or unowen, with 72 being one of them.
However, if 72 is town then my reads are off.
I plan to do a reread but need to find the time.
Docpepper is town along with jt now.
Can I ask why I am being scum read? Is there something I am missing?
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Post Post #782 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:10 pm

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Mini, you've barely participated in the game or given an update on your reads. Who do you think is scum rn and why?
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Post Post #783 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:16 pm

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In post 782, GuiltyLion wrote:Mini, you've barely participated in the game or given an update on your reads. Who do you think is scum rn and why?
To be quite honest with you I’m a little lost with this game. I’ve been reading things and re reading but like everyone is voting 72 because they hammered. Then what if he’s town? You’re gonna eliminate another town? I just don’t see why 72 would be scum at all. I just think it’s a bit risky here that you’re voting someone just because they hammered. Or is that how this game is working?
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Post Post #784 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:19 pm

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The issue with 72 is that he hammered without a claim from TTJT. We got lucky that TTJT was a vanilla townie - if he was a valuable role, that would have been a major loss for the town. The standard in games here is to ask for a player who is one vote away from being eliminated to claim their role, to ensure that town does not accidentally kill off their members with night abilities.

72 is well aware of this, yet hammered anyway. That's far more likely a calculated move to benefit scum than a mistake as town.
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Post Post #785 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:20 pm

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In post 674, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:Same, I hope you have a good night Jt
72 definitely does not come off so great off of the lynch if jt is town
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I question again why? Is it just because they hammered? I’m not really understanding the thoughts behind this
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Post Post #786 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:21 pm

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In post 784, GuiltyLion wrote:The issue with 72 is that he hammered without a claim from TTJT. We got lucky that TTJT was a vanilla townie - if he was a valuable role, that would have been a major loss for the town. The standard in games here is to ask for a player who is one vote away from being eliminated to claim their role, to ensure that town does not accidentally kill off their members with night abilities.

72 is well aware of this, yet hammered anyway. That's far more likely a calculated move to benefit scum than a mistake as town.
Okay well ignore my next post then as I think I understand. Has 72 claimed yet?
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Post Post #787 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:25 pm

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I can’t seem to see if 72 has claimed yet
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Post Post #788 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:25 pm

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Like I can’t find a post where they have claimed if they have
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Post Post #789 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:23 pm

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In post 767, UNOwen wrote:
In post 765, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:To me the other potential scum could be mini or unowen, with 72 being one of them.
However, if 72 is town then my reads are off.
I plan to do a reread but need to find the time.
Docpepper is town along with jt now.
What do you think of my argument about why 72-Mini is an unlikely scum team?
In post 778, 72offsuit wrote:
In post 765, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:To me the other potential scum could be mini or unowen, with 72 being one of them.
However, if 72 is town then my reads are off.
I plan to do a reread but need to find the time.
Docpepper is town along with jt now.
Hypothetical: You have a cop result from day 0 on me that says I;m town.
Who is scum in that scenario?
I am not too sure about it but I do see where you are coming from on the 72 mini bit.
I will have to think on that.

If that was true, this would cause me to suspect gl or Italiano more.
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Post Post #790 (ISO) » Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:12 am

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There's no reason to rush 72 to his excommunicado.
In post 786, MiniMegabyte wrote: Okay well ignore my next post then as I think I understand. Has 72 claimed yet?
He has not claimed yet.
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Post Post #791 (ISO) » Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:12 am

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In post 777, DoctorPepper wrote: But the thing is, why waste a day of discussion when we can talk about who else could be scum?
Do you have any suggestions on this topic?
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Post Post #792 (ISO) » Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:18 am

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Yep scum is really quaking in their boots with all the scumhunting.
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Post Post #793 (ISO) » Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:33 am

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In post 790, UNOwen wrote:There's no reason to rush 72 to his excommunicado.
In post 786, MiniMegabyte wrote: Okay well ignore my next post then as I think I understand. Has 72 claimed yet?
He has not claimed yet.
So there is talk about when people are 1 vote away from being eliminated the person is to claim but 72 hasn’t claimed yet? Can I ask why?
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Post Post #794 (ISO) » Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:35 am

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In post 793, MiniMegabyte wrote:
In post 790, UNOwen wrote:There's no reason to rush 72 to his excommunicado.
In post 786, MiniMegabyte wrote: Okay well ignore my next post then as I think I understand. Has 72 claimed yet?
He has not claimed yet.
So there is talk about when people are 1 vote away from being eliminated the person is to claim but 72 hasn’t claimed yet? Can I ask why?
The standard of play, is that if someone is willing to be the final voter on a lynch, they declare INTENT TO HAMMER.

When they do so, the person at risk of being lynched claims at this point in time. Until that occurs, claiming is -EV for town.
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Post Post #795 (ISO) » Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:36 am

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EBWOP elimination*, sry
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Post Post #796 (ISO) » Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:10 am

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In the interest of ensuring this game isnt stalled by the eventuality of 72's lynch

Rest of town:
Who are your possible scum teams today if not 72?

I'm currently thinking Mini+UNo
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Post Post #797 (ISO) » Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:13 am

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I'll eat my hat if both Uno and GL are town.
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Post Post #798 (ISO) » Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:35 am

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In post 796, DoctorPepper wrote:In the interest of ensuring this game isnt stalled by the eventuality of 72's lynch

Rest of town:
Who are your possible scum teams today if not 72?

I'm currently thinking Mini+UNo
Sounds like mine. UNOwen and Mini. I have another outlier, but it won’t be confirmed unless 72 flips town.
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Post Post #799 (ISO) » Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:23 pm

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@GuiltyLion. Could you explain your transition from to to

I think I may have missed the reasons behind not scumreading Owen and Ydrasse.

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