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Newbie 2012 - Game Over

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:08 pm

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Newbie 2012
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Players:

TheThirteenthJT 3bounty
MiniMegabyte piisirrational, Sera Masumi
WaltertheDunce10
ItalianoVD
UNOwen
Ydrasse
DoctorPepper (SE)
GuiltyLion (SE)
72offsuit (SE)

SE - indicates a Semi-Experienced player, a player who has played at least two games on MafiaScum.net

Spoiler: Alive
Ydrasse,
Mafia Goon
, survived.

Spoiler: Dead
TheThirteenthJT,
Vanilla Townie
, was eliminated Day 1.
72offsuit,
Vanilla Townie
, was eliminated Day 2.
DoctorPepper,
Town Jailkeeper
, was killed Night 2.
UNOwen,
Mafia Roleblocker
, was eliminated Day 3.
GuiltyLion,
Town Tracker
, was killed Night 3.
MiniMegabyte,
Vanilla Townie
, was eliminated Day 4.
WaltertheDunce10,
Vanilla Townie
, was endgamed Day 4.
ItalianoVD,
Vanilla Townie
, was endgamed Day 4.

Important Events:

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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:11 pm

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Game Rules


General Rules/Game Etiquette
  1. Obey all Site-wide Rules.
  2. Communication outside the thread (if your role specifically allows it) is allowed until the game begins.
  3. You may not quote private communication of any kind. This includes moderator-supplied information (either real or fabricated) of any kind. Paraphrasing (for role claims, etc.) is acceptable.
  4. There is to be NO personal communication outside of the forum postings unless your role PM specifically allows it.
Activity/Prods/Replacements
  1. Prods of missing players will be issued after 36 hours of no activity.
  2. A prodded player has 24 hours to respond to the prod, after which time a replacement search will begin. The prodded player may re-enter the game so long as no replacement has been found.
  3. A player who has been prodded 3 times is subject to possible replacement without further notice.
  4. If you anticipate being unavailable for more than 36 hours please PM me or post in the thread to declare V/LA.
  5. I reserve the right to force replace players who need extensively long V/LA at my own discretion.
Deadlines
  1. Deadlines for this game will be 10 days for Day 1 and 7 days for following Day Phases. Night Phases will last 48 hours.
  2. Extensions are given only in extreme circumstances.
  3. If you have a role with a Night action your choices are due to me by the posted deadline. If I do not receive your choice via PM by the posted deadline you will forfeit your actions.
Player Actions/Voting/Player Death
  1. A simple majority of all living players must agree on one person (via voting) for an Elimination to occur (simple majority = ½ # of living players +1, rounded down). If no one has a simple majority of votes at deadline a No Elimination will occur.
  2. Votes must be bolded or use the [.vote] tags to be counted (e.g.
    Vote: Player
    or VOTE: Player).
  3. Unvotes are not necessary before changing votes.
  4. You may
    Vote: No Elimination
    - a simple majority of these vote types are required to send the game to Night phase without an Elimination.
  5. Votes made using nicknames or abbreviations will be counted at my discretion. Fake vote gambits should be executed at your own peril. If I think its a vote, then its a vote.
Miscellaneous
  1. I will use
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  2. Any situation not explicitly covered above is subject to my discretion and will be handled as I see fit on a case-by-case basis.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:12 pm

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Setup Information

NewD3 (as designed by RadiantCowbells):

ABC
Mafia
Mafia Roleblocker
Mafia Rolecop
Mafia Goon
Row 1
Town Cop and Town Doctor
Town Tracker and Town Friendly Neighbor
Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2
Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker
Town Jailkeeper and Town Friendly Neighbor
Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3
Town Mason and Town Mason
Town Tracker and Town Doctor
Town Mason and Town Mason

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role.
The remaining six roles will be filled in by
one mafia goon
and
five vanilla townies
appropriately, to create a
2-mafia
and
7-town
setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.
Mafia Roleblocker
action takes precedence over a
Town Jailkeeper
action should that apply.

Mafia are able to communicate in their Private Topic at all times.

Spoiler: List of Setups
Column A & Row 1:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 2:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 3:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 1:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 2:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 3:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column C & Row 1:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Cop, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 2:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Jailkeeper, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 3:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5

Spoiler: Sample Role PM's
Vanilla TownieWelcome!

You are a
Vanilla Townie
.

You have no special abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town JailkeeperWelcome!

You are a
Town Jailkeeper
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town CopWelcome!

You are a
Town Cop
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are
Town
or
Mafia
. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town MasonWelcome!

You are a
Town Mason
.

You know that PLAYER NAME is Town-aligned. You also share a Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You have no active abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Town TrackerWelcome!

You are a
Town Tracker
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town DoctorWelcome!

You are a
Town Doctor
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Town Friendly NeighborWelcome!

You are a
Town Friendly Neighbor
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be sent a message informing them that you are Town-aligned.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Mafia GoonWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Goon
.

Your partner is PLAYERNAME who is a
Mafia Goon/Roleblocker/Rolecop
. Together you share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.


Mafia RolecopWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Rolecop
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment.
Vanilla Townies
and
Mafia Goons
will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

Your partner is PLAYERNAME who is a
Mafia Goon
. Together you share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RoleblockerWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Roleblocker
.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

Your partner is PLAYERNAME who is a
Mafia Goon
. Together you share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:13 pm

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Introduction and Tips


Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):

-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)


Key Concepts and Tips


Activity


Try to check in at least once a day.
Besides the activity requirements listed in the moderator's original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone
plays
. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta


Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)

Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, E-x, and Hammers

E-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from elimination. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at E-1 (1 vote away from an elimination) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that player's elimination. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to eliminate (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see E-2 and E-3 (2 votes away from elimination and 3 votes away from elimination, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being eliminated, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.


Claiming Your Role

It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at E-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town!
While it may help you avoid getting eliminated, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counterclaiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get eliminated for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

ELo

ELo is the shortened representation of “Eliminate or Lose.” ELo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to eliminate (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion

Mafia is hard!
As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum.
That's okay!
Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game.
Have fun!
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:32 pm

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Role PM's have been sent out. Please confirm using the method described by your role PM.

As long as enough players have confirmed, the game will begin in (expired on 2020-06-16 23:30:00).
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:29 pm

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3bounty and ItalianoVD have (expired on 2020-06-17 23:30:00) to confirm before I search for a replacement. Everyone else has confirmed.

It is now Day 1.


Votecount 1.00
Not Voting (9) -
3bounty, piisirrational, WaltertheDunce10, ItalianoVD, UNOwen, Ydrasse, DoctorPepper, GuiltyLion, 72offsuit

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to Eliminate.

The deadline for Day 1 is paused at 10 days until all players have confirmed.
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:34 pm

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first!

VOTE: DoctorPepper
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:36 pm

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hello hello everyone! how's everyone doing?

VOTE: 72offsuit
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:46 pm

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Hello, I hope everyone is doing well
[Ydrasse.vote]
How did you come up with that name?
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:48 pm

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In post 8, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:Hello, I hope everyone is doing well
[Ydrasse.vote]
How did you come up with that name?
i saw someone in an mmo with a name that started with y and then a consonant, which struck me, and then this popped into my head a moment later and i fell in love with it! fantasy-flavored and original are up my alley.
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:59 pm

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In post 8, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:[Ydrasse.vote]
just a heads up, that won't count as a valid vote

you want to use vote tags, in brackets

Code: Select all

[vote]Ydrasse[/vote]


like this^
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:03 pm

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In post 10, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 8, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:[Ydrasse.vote]
just a heads up, that won't count as a valid vote

you want to use vote tags, in brackets

Code: Select all

[vote]Ydrasse[/vote]


like this^
Thanks
first time on this site
VOTE: Ydrasse
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:23 pm

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VOTE: WaltertheDunce10

Because 10 = 2, and there are 2 mafia.

1 scum down, 1 to go.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:23 pm

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In binary*
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:27 pm

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Hey Walter, as a side note,
Having an avatar helps others with reading the thread, particularly when skimming through, as it helps others identifying your posts at a a glance.
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:32 pm

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Of the playing roster, Ive previously played with 3bounty, and very briefly with GuiltyLion
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:29 pm

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In post 6, GuiltyLion wrote:first!

VOTE: DoctorPepper

Right back at ya buddy!

VOTE: GuiltyLion
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Quarantine is driving me crazy :(

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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:49 pm

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Looks like we're playing together again pii. What's up bud. :)

Oh yeah

VOTE: Micc

As a golden gopher fan, I can't believe he's broadcasting that thing in his avatar. :facepalm: :shifty:
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:51 pm

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So who's the scum? Just let us know now, so we can be done with this eh? ;)
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:05 pm

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In post 17, ItalianoVD wrote:Looks like we're playing together again pii. What's up bud. :)

Oh yeah

VOTE: Micc

As a golden gopher fan, I can't believe he's broadcasting that thing in his avatar. :facepalm: :shifty:
VOTE: Italiano

Let's leave RVS. Anyone can tell me why this vote is scummy?
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Quarantine is driving me crazy :(

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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:58 pm

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In post 17, ItalianoVD wrote:Looks like we're playing together again pii. What's up bud. :)

Oh yeah

VOTE: Micc

As a golden gopher fan, I can't believe he's broadcasting that thing in his avatar. :facepalm: :shifty:
Protip: You can only vote for players in the game, and not the moderator.

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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:00 pm

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In post 19, DoctorPepper wrote:
In post 17, ItalianoVD wrote:Looks like we're playing together again pii. What's up bud. :)

Oh yeah

VOTE: Micc

As a golden gopher fan, I can't believe he's broadcasting that thing in his avatar. :facepalm: :shifty:
VOTE: Italiano

Let's leave RVS. Anyone can tell me why this vote is scummy?
Signalling leaving RvS pretty much defeats the purpose of what follows.

It's like telling someone, "don't worry, there won't be any side effects to this new medication, it's just a placebo".
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:02 pm

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Sorry but what was the point of that post?
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:02 pm

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In post 16, DoctorPepper wrote:
In post 6, GuiltyLion wrote:first!

VOTE: DoctorPepper

Right back at ya buddy!

VOTE: GuiltyLion
-0.25 points for wasting a vote by OMGUSing voting an SE who isn;t going to tell you squat from his reaction
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:38 pm

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Hello everyone
This looks like a good place to start VOTE: ItalianoVD
In post 21, 72offsuit wrote: Signalling leaving RvS pretty much defeats the purpose of what follows.

It's like telling someone, "don't worry, there won't be any side effects to this new medication, it's just a placebo".
Can you explain what you mean by this?

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