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I'm really confused by Joyed's read progression on me/Bulge. 493 views all of my pre-454 posts as fluff. 470 seems to recognize that pressuring someone for fluff might actually be a good thing. There's also really no reason to feel sympathy for someone being pressed for reads/reactions and I'm shocked I garnered that considering I did my best to be completely unsympathetic.
Bulge still being a scumlean despite the realization that their actions have strong town incentive is pretty ???-
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PlusJOYED Mafia Scum
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even factoring in bulges prism vote being possibly town motivated I still lean bulge scum for the other stuffIn post 501, Prism wrote:I'm really confused by Joyed's read progression on me/Bulge. 493 views all of my pre-454 posts as fluff. 470 seems to recognize that pressuring someone for fluff might actually be a good thing. There's also really no reason to feel sympathy for someone being pressed for reads/reactions and I'm shocked I garnered that considering I did my best to be completely unsympathetic.
Bulge still being a scumlean despite the realization that their actions have strong town incentive is pretty ???-
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i feel like i'll get some town reads for saying fferycabd is my strongest scum read so far
going against the grain usually makes people town-read you i think?spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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Prism AnyDispersion of InsightAny
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Can you elaborate on why this game appeared to be polar opposite? This seems to suggest that either I wasn't looking very genuine, that the type of actions were fundamentally different, or that there's just something tonally/stylistically that's different. Selfvoting in three way ExLo with a player openly scumreading me is a lot more bold than just saying "Yeah I don't have reads vote me" knowing the chance of it going through is small.In post 448, Something_Smart wrote:I haven't played with Prism, discounting a game that was abandoned immediately after I replaced into it. I modded a game where they had a deadbeat scumteam and pulled off an extremely impressive scum win (in what was probably a somewhat townsided setup). I don't recall exactly why they got so townread but I think it had to do with faking really genuine-looking actions such as a self-vote. So that's probably a good sign since they seem the polar opposite of that here, but it was a long time ago.
P-Edit: What other stuff? It seems like you also recognize some differences from the demonstrated scumBulge game, though whether you think there are similarities seems ambiguous.-
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Prism, I want to play with that person. You were impressive despite the loss. You went up against scum-Jingle in an anonymous alt, which I wouldn't wish on anyone, and you came that little bit short mostly due to a town that flaked way more than you deserved.In post 497, Prism wrote:I don't think my 454 comes close to answering your (Bell's) questions without really committing myself to more than I feel in reality.
I do want to challenge the morph townread. Taking a strong scum presence is likely to be extremely important this game-you can't just sit on the backfoot. Ffery might legitimately be excited to get to play with me, but the motivational "Shine!" stuff feels a bit off to me. I definitely started off a bit more confident in Dystopia but the focused, obsessive play came much later. In Midscummer Night's Dream it never really happened at all, though it's hard to separate mine and nancy's effort because we didn't really sign. I can see why they probably liked my Dystopia play, but honestly that game is more vivid to me because Isinglehandedly lost my team the gamewith my intensity.
Do they actually want me to shine or are they just saying it? I don't really know. I think the pressure for content is okay but perhaps overwrought.
Though modding that game did help me eventually see scum-Jingle in a different anonymous alt in an anon game I played a few weeks later. Mostly because the play was identifiable Jingle as well as scum-Jingle after having a ringside seat for a few weeks.-
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Mmmmm depends on the player and even then it's more about the reasoning than anything else. I wouldn't say having off reads is AI. If someone is like that all game though and isn't changing it's worth looking into. Considering who we're talking about here though that's very doubtful.In post 504, zMuffinMan wrote:i feel like i'll get some town reads for saying fferycabd is my strongest scum read so far
going against the grain usually makes people town-read you i think?I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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From my side.In post 495, April Ludgate wrote:I would like it to be noted that the dynamic between PlusJoyed and Bell is weird.
We’ve played together. I have mixed feelings about getting town read early by people i’ve played with before.
I stood aside and let him get miseliminated in our last game and my impression of him is sort a mix of enthusiasm and slightly off the wall play . Since he only recently came to this site I think he’s adjusting to site meta and he was only in one game. So in that game he was a bit stir crazy. Because of rapid adjustment i’m trying to take it slow.
In short, i’m trying to figure out how best to approach and get a solid read on him. I could poke at him wrong and trigger an avalanche on his town head if i’m not careful. Or it could result in him being correctly eliminated.-
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zMuffinMan Survivor
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i am not read up on recent pages
have fferycabd figured out noddy is town yet or are they still pretending he could be scum?spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh-
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I told cabd that not townreading me when you came back would be a scumclaim.In post 504, zMuffinMan wrote:i feel like i'll get some town reads for saying fferycabd is my strongest scum read so far
going against the grain usually makes people town-read you i think?-
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MariaR Alternatively,
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Don't really like this post. It feels like putting in a lot more reasoning than really is needed for something that was so minor. Although I'm still trying to figure out where I think this post would lead in a world where Bell/Plus are SvS but that's not something I need to go off of atm.In post 510, Bell wrote:
From my side.In post 495, April Ludgate wrote:I would like it to be noted that the dynamic between PlusJoyed and Bell is weird.
We’ve played together. I have mixed feelings about getting town read early by people i’ve played with before.
I stood aside and let him get miseliminated in our last game and my impression of him is sort a mix of enthusiasm and slightly off the wall play . Since he only recently came to this site I think he’s adjusting to site meta and he was only in one game. So in that game he was a bit stir crazy. Because of rapid adjustment i’m trying to take it slow.
In short, i’m trying to figure out how best to approach and get a solid read on him. I could poke at him wrong and trigger an avalanche on his town head if i’m not careful. Or it could result in him being correctly eliminated.I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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April Ludgate Mafia Scum
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If it helps, I have ice powers to help stop an accidental avalanche, and you have my support.In post 510, Bell wrote:
From my side.In post 495, April Ludgate wrote:I would like it to be noted that the dynamic between PlusJoyed and Bell is weird.
We’ve played together. I have mixed feelings about getting town read early by people i’ve played with before.
I stood aside and let him get miseliminated in our last game and my impression of him is sort a mix of enthusiasm and slightly off the wall play . Since he only recently came to this site I think he’s adjusting to site meta and he was only in one game. So in that game he was a bit stir crazy. Because of rapid adjustment i’m trying to take it slow.
In short, i’m trying to figure out how best to approach and get a solid read on him. I could poke at him wrong and trigger an avalanche on his town head if i’m not careful. Or it could result in him being correctly eliminated.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge-
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Gut scum read on Maria means this is probably townMariaIn post 513, MariaR wrote:
Don't really like this post. It feels like putting in a lot more reasoning than really is needed for something that was so minor. Although I'm still trying to figure out where I think this post would lead in a world where Bell/Plus are SvS but that's not something I need to go off of atm.In post 510, Bell wrote:
From my side.In post 495, April Ludgate wrote:I would like it to be noted that the dynamic between PlusJoyed and Bell is weird.
We’ve played together. I have mixed feelings about getting town read early by people i’ve played with before.
I stood aside and let him get miseliminated in our last game and my impression of him is sort a mix of enthusiasm and slightly off the wall play . Since he only recently came to this site I think he’s adjusting to site meta and he was only in one game. So in that game he was a bit stir crazy. Because of rapid adjustment i’m trying to take it slow.
In short, i’m trying to figure out how best to approach and get a solid read on him. I could poke at him wrong and trigger an avalanche on his town head if i’m not careful. Or it could result in him being correctly eliminated.Time Is Money, Money Is Power, Power Is Pizza, Pizza is Knowledge-
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I would love too!In post 515, morph the cat wrote:Good to see you once more, lady the first.
Would you like to renew your hemlock society membership?
It's that I think if you look at your overall iso this sticks out in a very odd manner that comes from scum more likely than town.In post 516, Bell wrote:is there a conclusion to that thought Maria?I bet Maria is scum this game~FirebringerNa Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~Charloux
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April Ludgate Mafia Scum
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This isn't where I thought events were building up to.In post 498, April Ludgate wrote:I actually have Morph as my strongest town read right now
Not that I'm particularly upset about it, mind you.
I was just expecting a spicier take.-
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Do you have data to back that up orIn post 518, MariaR wrote:
I would love too!In post 515, morph the cat wrote:Good to see you once more, lady the first.
Would you like to renew your hemlock society membership?
It's that I think if you look at your overall iso this sticks out in a very odd manner that comes from scum more likely than town.In post 516, Bell wrote:is there a conclusion to that thought Maria?-
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