In post 957, Iconeum wrote: In post 883, TheGoldenParadox wrote:okay, that's interesting. i didn't know that, but that makes the shelly/ico interaction super interesting.
you think scum!ico and scum!shellyc are pocketing each other?
In post 969, shellyc wrote:
that is literally our town block lol
I kinda like bussing as well. I have several completed games you can look at
I'm reevaluating this scumteam, but I'm also kinda seeing ico/shelly/bm playing a game where they pocket each other and form a strong townbloc quickly, precisely to throw us off guard and play counterintuitively. although y'all do make a good point that the pocketing is kinda blatant for scum; i guess this is something that can just be WIFOM'd the hell out of, and i'm reconsidering a scum!shelly implying confscum!ico.
In post 989, Iconeum wrote: In post 978, Iconeum wrote: In post 929, Noraa wrote:
Alonzo has caught my attention since then. He seems townie enough so I did an iso on him and decided that he prolly is my strongest TR so far. Again, this is really sloppy. I'll try to do better once the weekend starts
This literally reads like you were forced to go look at a slot and fabricate a read there,
because you were asked to do so
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Not because you are interested in solving
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thoughts?
In post 998, Tayl0r Swift wrote: In post 996, Iconeum wrote:noraa case in a nutshell:
-(counter?)tunneling on BM
-confbiasing, trying to make every post BM made into a scumtell
-not having other reads outside of BM
-not trying to have reads outside of BM
-after being forced into having a read, suddenly has a strong townread for reasons that previously had noraa 'all are null'
-increasingly bad posts in general
welcome to noraa
In post 1014, Iconeum wrote:Noraa does a tunnel all game long on BM
Proceeds to have scumreads outside of that (see 613) that consist of meta on datisi that noraa does not have. It's literrally an assumption. And a scumread on GP because HE SWITCHED HIS VOTE FROM NORAA, TO NORAA'S TOP SCUMREAD
I will repeat. GP is scummy to noraa, because GP moved his vote away from noraa, onto noraa's SCUMREAD.
The alonzo townread. Just read the entire exchange with teacher as well. If that shit ain't faked, I don't know what is.
In post 1028, iamausername wrote: In post 962, shellyc wrote: In post 886, iamausername wrote:i'd switch Swifty for bob, got a gut town feel from her early postings and i've seen no reason to doubt it as yet, while bob has a major case of trying hard to look like he's doing something without actually doing anything.
i also wouldn't flip Noraa today, but i get where you're coming from in 753. i just feel like the possibility of her being scum still seems very unlikely to me.
can you explain why you wouldn’t flip noraa
in short, because i think Noraa is town and i would prefer not to execute town if we can avoid it.
in long, i think she's town because she doesn't seem to be motivated by self-preservation, like at all. what she mostly seems to be motivated by is a desire to prove that she is right. this is kind of a bad thing for a town player to be motivated by, and most of her reasoning is extremely flawed, to be sure, but i believe that she believes in it.
like, her progression from tunneling BM to joining the Golden wagon to going back to tunneling BM to finally acknowledging that her tunneling might be misguided does not feel like a scum progression at all. for me, the way she jumped off the Golden wagon as soon as BM's somewhat abrasive nature got her hackles up again allayed any concern i might have had that her Golden vote was scum opportunistically joining a popular wagon. the fact that she refused my repeated requests to vote for Golden yesterday, and in fact still hasn't done so even after backing down on BM also back that up.
i'm inclined to agree with iamauser in this case, and I think they captured it really well. While noraa is giving off a lot of traditionally scummy vibes, I'm also inclined to believe that most of that is based on her relative newness as opposed to her actually being scum. i'm really not that far out of my newbie phase myself (and i've regressed since my hiatus started) and i definitely understand how newbies can easily say things that are misinterpreted as scumtells. Noraa seems to me like pretty LHF, and ico's attacks on her feel like they're ignoring the other, more likely reason behind her oozing scumtells: her being a newbie, as opposed to her being scum.
@ico
the reason noraa is low hanging fruit is because she is a new player who has significant shortcomings and scumtells as a result of being a new player, and thus is an easy target to point out their scumtells and create a wagon on because they will have so many scumtells.
basically all of shelly's posts on page 38 scumping me hard. i have absolutely no idea what she's trying to accomplish here but it seems a lot like she's spinning in circles and not going anywhere. the entire taylor push is weird,
943 is unhelpful and unproductive, and just generally shelly is pinging me as scum who wants to create a townbloc and sell herself as town, either by pocketing actual town or working with other scum to wifom us. i'm happy with my vote on shelly, and i think shelly is a good d1 lynch here because they have quite a few interactions with almost everyone here.
