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[NoPowerOverMe]

VOTE: Rannygazoo

I policy elim anyone who suggests policy elims. It's just bad play.

[EchoVision]

I'll prolly be giving a full reads list later today when I find some time after my classes

Just a few would do. I'll start one for you:

Town

Primate: has a developed analysis in his posts -- 170, 175, 215, 334 -- he's the only one thinking about multi-scum factions
Titus: wagonomics approach, villagery mindset -- she is a never yeet -- 318, 319, 322, 387 all come from town
NPOM: Claim and only because of his claim

null: everyone else

null Scum: Ranny -- his push on echovision is bad

scum: ShellyC -- see post 349 -- she's out for blood and it's gone beyond tunneling -- she's fond of saying the things that she does is "strictly NAI", see 150, 287, 355

why does scum!ranny push me tho

[Rannygazoo]

I can’t speak for scum!ranny, but voting on inactives shows an unwillingness to do any actual scum hunting, while trying to keep up appearances. Doing it twice in a row is weird.

[Rannygazoo]

VOTE: Rannygazoo

I policy elim anyone who suggests policy elims. It's just bad play.

Go ahead and vote yourself now

[NoPowerOverMe]

Good defense.

[Herta]

Town

Primate: has a developed analysis in his posts -- 170, 175, 215, 334 -- he's the only one thinking about multi-scum factions
Titus: wagonomics approach, villagery mindset -- she is a never yeet -- 318, 319, 322, 387 all come from town
NPOM: Claim and only because of his claim

null: everyone else

null Scum: Ranny -- his push on echovision is bad

scum: ShellyC -- see post 349 -- she's out for blood and it's gone beyond tunneling -- she's fond of saying the things that she does is "strictly NAI", see 150, 287, 355

despite redcardinal pushing as hard as me on you you basically ignore redcardinal (?)
thinking about multiscum is not alignment indicative
titus loves VCA as doing it is NAI

NPOM read is the only fine one and its a consensus read as well

Red cardinal had reasons for changing their vote to me before the alleged scumclaim. I had to go back to find them, but I did in 163. That's why I asked the later question about why she changed her vote to me from Noraa and didn't follow up on her answer even though I didn't understand it. I figured it out. Her pushing on me doesn't bother me because it's not a scummy push.

I'll disregard your NAIs. Why don't you have Primate as Town and why do you disregard my pointing out he has logical analysis and focus on one part of my TR on him? Do you think he doesn't believe in what he's writing or are you just trying to misrepresent my position? Same with Titus, why focus on the voting comment and not talk about how the posts I cited come from town, she has a villagery mindset?

If you were town with a legit scum read, you wouldn't need to misrepresent my positions. You would be able to dissect them without resorting to that.

[Herta]

Why does it feel like you're goving up Herta?

What gives you that impression/

[Herta]

Why does it feel like you're goving up Herta?

If Herta flips red, this point is valid. If not, it's not.

Elaborate please for those of us who can't connect the dots. On my green flip you're going to scum read Titus? I don't know how you can attribute that to her comment.

[Herta]

So uh

It kind of feels like the day is winding down. I was hoping Herta would convince us to move the wagon but it looks like he won’t.

I don’t know what to do except wait for the prods/replacements to catch up. I’m still willing to hammer herta if it comes to it but I’d like to hear from ico and assemble before that happens.

Over a week to go. No reason to shorten it.

[EchoVision]

I'll prolly be giving a full reads list later today when I find some time after my classes

Just a few would do. I'll start one for you:

Town

Primate: has a developed analysis in his posts -- 170, 175, 215, 334 -- he's the only one thinking about multi-scum factions
Titus: wagonomics approach, villagery mindset -- she is a never yeet -- 318, 319, 322, 387 all come from town
NPOM: Claim and only because of his claim

null: everyone else

null Scum: Ranny -- his push on echovision is bad

scum: ShellyC -- see post 349 -- she's out for blood and it's gone beyond tunneling -- she's fond of saying the things that she does is "strictly NAI", see 150, 287, 355

why does scum!ranny push me tho

@herta
what reason does scum!ranny have to push me as opposed to pushing someone like you who's on the chopping block

[Herta]

I'll prolly be giving a full reads list later today when I find some time after my classes

Just a few would do. I'll start one for you:

Town

Primate: has a developed analysis in his posts -- 170, 175, 215, 334 -- he's the only one thinking about multi-scum factions
Titus: wagonomics approach, villagery mindset -- she is a never yeet -- 318, 319, 322, 387 all come from town
NPOM: Claim and only because of his claim

null: everyone else

null Scum: Ranny -- his push on echovision is bad

scum: ShellyC -- see post 349 -- she's out for blood and it's gone beyond tunneling -- she's fond of saying the things that she does is "strictly NAI", see 150, 287, 355

why does scum!ranny push me tho

Just like my supposed scumclaim. You haven't been scummy, yet he's saying you are. He gets the accusation out there, it sticks consciously or subconsiously. Even though there's no way you get yeeted because of it, it acts as a reference point for later in the game. Oh look echo was scummy for this and for this and for this. You've seen this movie.

[Herta]

I'll prolly be giving a full reads list later today when I find some time after my classes

Just a few would do. I'll start one for you:

Town

Primate: has a developed analysis in his posts -- 170, 175, 215, 334 -- he's the only one thinking about multi-scum factions
Titus: wagonomics approach, villagery mindset -- she is a never yeet -- 318, 319, 322, 387 all come from town
NPOM: Claim and only because of his claim

null: everyone else

null Scum: Ranny -- his push on echovision is bad

scum: ShellyC -- see post 349 -- she's out for blood and it's gone beyond tunneling -- she's fond of saying the things that she does is "strictly NAI", see 150, 287, 355

why does scum!ranny push me tho

@herta
what reason does scum!ranny have to push me as opposed to pushing someone like you who's on the chopping block

He is pushing me. He's consistently saying I'm not doing anything to change his mind or anyone else's and that he wants to hammer me. How is that not a push?

[SirCakez]

Assemble did not pick up their prod and will be replaced.

[shellyc]

Why don't you have Primate as Town and why do you disregard my pointing out he has logical analysis and focus on one part of my TR on him? Do you think he doesn't believe in what he's writing or are you just trying to misrepresent my position? Same with Titus, why focus on the voting comment and not talk about how the posts I cited come from town, she has a villagery mindset?

because developed thoughts and villagery mindset are very vague.

i can easy claim that someone has a "villagery mindset"

[redcardinal]

So uh

It kind of feels like the day is winding down. I was hoping Herta would convince us to move the wagon but it looks like he won’t.

I don’t know what to do except wait for the prods/replacements to catch up. I’m still willing to hammer herta if it comes to it but I’d like to hear from ico and assemble before that happens.

I don’t have an opinion on shelly v. Noraa, but yikes. Look at shelly’s record and she might make a good policy elim.

I feel like I’ll know more after a flip, and night actions start flying. That will allow us at least to count the scum factions, maybe

VOTE: Rannygazoo

There's plenty to do and read, this is an attempt to stuff the town and act as if nothing's happening today, extremely scum motivated. obviously sees shelly as lynch bait but doesn't want to bite the line normally, also I hate policy elims. Herta's posts above satisfy me with that slot for now.

[Titus]

VOTE: Rannygazoo

[EchoVision]

titus talk me through why ranny votes me and not hecta here when he's said that he sr's hecta and just wants to hammer
scum from a diff faction (if multi which i feel like it has to be) looking for hammer, and thus likely not association with the red flip?

[Noraa]

I don’t have an opinion on shelly v. Noraa, but yikes. Look at shelly’s record and she might make a good policy elim.

I feel like I’ll know more after a flip, and night actions start flying. That will allow us at least to count the scum factions, maybe

while I want a shelly lim for meta reasons, I dont approve of policy lims. they r absolute bs but I think ur town if shelly is scum bc u wouldn't do ur scum partner dirty like that .... most likely.

Why does it feel like you're goving up Herta?

If Herta flips red, this point is valid. If not, it's not.

Elaborate please for those of us who can't connect the dots. On my green flip you're going to scum read Titus? I don't know how you can attribute that to her comment.

not sure what "goving up" is but I assumed it means like pocketing/buddying/siding with. If ur scum, then my defense on u is fishy. If ur town, then my defense isnt fishy. I felt like Titus was doing pre flip analysis and I didnt like it.

So uh

It kind of feels like the day is winding down. I was hoping Herta would convince us to move the wagon but it looks like he won’t.

I don’t know what to do except wait for the prods/replacements to catch up. I’m still willing to hammer herta if it comes to it but I’d like to hear from ico and assemble before that happens.

I don’t have an opinion on shelly v. Noraa, but yikes. Look at shelly’s record and she might make a good policy elim.

I feel like I’ll know more after a flip, and night actions start flying. That will allow us at least to count the scum factions, maybe

VOTE: Rannygazoo

There's plenty to do and read, this is an attempt to stuff the town and act as if nothing's happening today, extremely scum motivated. obviously sees shelly as lynch bait but doesn't want to bite the line normally, also I hate policy elims. Herta's posts above satisfy me with that slot for now.

this sliding onto the biggest wagon is not rubbing me the right way. It feels unnatural. And you over-explaining isn't helping.

titus talk me through why ranny votes me and not hecta here when he's said that he sr's hecta and just wants to hammer
scum from a diff faction (if multi which i feel like it has to be) looking for hammer, and thus likely not association with the red flip?

interesting post to look at if ranny ever flips red.

[Titus]

titus talk me through why ranny votes me and not hecta here when he's said that he sr's hecta and just wants to hammer
scum from a diff faction (if multi which i feel like it has to be) looking for hammer, and thus likely not association with the red flip?

Can you rephrase this without pronouns?

[redcardinal]

I was not aware that rannygazoo was the biggest wagon. I was under the impression that herta was. yknow, the wagon that I started. would you prefer that I explain less? get on titus for that.

[Titus]

I was not aware that rannygazoo was the biggest wagon. I was under the impression that herta was. yknow, the wagon that I started. would you prefer that I explain less? get on titus for that.

Wow. This os ultra aggressive and out of left field.

[Noraa]

I was not aware that rannygazoo was the biggest wagon. I was under the impression that herta was. yknow, the wagon that I started. would you prefer that I explain less? get on titus for that.

nah ranny wasn't the biggest wagon. What I meant was that it was the one with the most potential at the time. but also why so defensive?

[EchoVision]

titus talk me through why ranny votes me and not hecta here when he's said that he sr's hecta and just wants to hammer
scum from a diff faction (if multi which i feel like it has to be) looking for hammer, and thus likely not association with the red flip?

what do you think motivation behind ranny pushing hecta without voting is? hecta seems fine with hammering ranny though

in my eyes i see scum!ranny pushing scum!hecta, but scum!hecta is a different faction than scum!ranny

if it's multiball which i'm assuming it is from the wiki on great idea, i could very well be wrong though

scum!ranny gets townpoints for hammering scum and then we don't look at ranny anymore in his eyes
ranny, due to hammer, is thus not associated with hecta if hecta flips red

[EchoVision]

does that make sense or do i need to resort to an analogy bc i love analogies

[Titus]

I think it's far too early to establish S v S but not partners theories. It's possible but I don't like it.