Mini Theme 2172: Great Idea Mafia - Game Over

[Noraa]

I do remember pooky claiming ascetic peacemaker. I also remember being the only one that didn't believe it.

[redcardinal]

@Noraa, My scum read is gut based off posts like this one.

Can I also get SRs from titus? Ranked if you don't mind? Everything south of null would be great, just a line of reasoning if you want

what does this do for your read of titus/otherwise?

[redcardinal]

Spoiler:

ok username effort to sort ranny is prob!town

noraa is gut-town

I don't think I've ever seen u TR me straight off the bat before

so now im more clear about your play across various games, I have a good ~vibe~ from them, they claimed town and I think it's real lol
answer to titus redas geniune

*reads

also noraa is often explicitly *confused* and if they were in a scum PT I think they would have more direction on how to approach this rather than being confused about the factions

shelly didn't I play the ~confused~ card hard in doggos tho? :3

the key is tone. this is proooobably your first ever theme or something

see the reactions towards me giving you a gut-TR, it's trying to doubt me / point out logical flaws. scum upon TR'd doesnt do that

I do not fucking accept free town passes. this is the way scum shelly pockets. I'll bet you post game the scum pt will say something like "I can pocket Noraa"

noraa's locktown I won't have it otherwise, scumnoraa doesn't post this kind of paranoia

[redcardinal]

I don't like lhf args to back off from wagons preflip

[MURDERCAT]

I personally think there's no point in looking into him too much unless something proves he isnt what he claims he is.

What would prove it? Tracking there is 99% waste, as he is 99% werewolf gravedigger or town gravedigger. If we track there and get a visit it still tells us nothing. Rolecop is similarly useless. We absolutely can't give that claim a free pass

[MURDERCAT]

what does this do for your read of titus/otherwise?

I'd rather not answer this until it happens

[MURDERCAT]

UNVOTE:
I'm not convinced about either of these wagons right now

[Titus]

I'll catch up after I sleep.

[Noraa]

I personally think there's no point in looking into him too much unless something proves he isnt what he claims he is.

What would prove it? Tracking there is 99% waste, as he is 99% werewolf gravedigger or town gravedigger. If we track there and get a visit it still tells us nothing. Rolecop is similarly useless. We absolutely can't give that claim a free pass

anyone want to fill me in on what werewolves even are(in this context ofc)

cuz I think ik what vampires r. those r like u can convert one person per night and if u hit like a vampire hunter, u die and shit like that. But I've never actually heard of werewolves before :/

[MURDERCAT]

It's just an alternative scum faction, same as mafia. "Werewolf" just describes the group. So if there's both mafia and werewolves in the game both their win conditions would include eliminating the other faction as well as town.

[Noraa]

so they'd have to kill each other to win? dayum that's hard.

[Noraa]

and also messy if that's what we have here :/

[Noraa]

*sigh*
ok murder what do you suggest we do about NPOM then?

[MURDERCAT]

I ran some back of the envelope numbers to see what we are dealing with. They aren't perfect because of stuff like alien sympathizer but I did take into account that there must be town majority.

Num of scum factions: % likelihood

1: 4%
2: 26%
3: 44%
4: 22%
5: 3%
6: <1% (though amazingly possible with town majority)

Dear scum, please cross kill thanks

[MURDERCAT]

As for what to do about NPOM, if we think he's scummy we elim. It's not a PR so we know it is a fairly safe miselim. Obviously if we think he's town we don't but other than the claim I'm not seeing anything that would lean town.

[MURDERCAT]

NPOM can you post some reads?

[NoPowerOverMe]

"if we think he's scummy we elim."

Don't go out on a limb there, dude.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Maybe in a little bit.

[MURDERCAT]

MURDERCAT replaces Assemble!

hi murder i missed u
let's keep you alive into d2 okay? thank u

Something tells me history might repeat itself

[Titus]

Someone asked for my reads list. Here goes

Rannygazoo - Weak lean town. I can see both sides getting frustrated by the smartass comments I did but my gut says town.
Herta - Easily picked on town.
redcardinal - At least scumhunting. No interest in executing here today.
shellyc - Scummy. Her explanation for voting Herta while pushing Rangy seems scummy and an attempt to dodge VCA or take responsibility for her push later. She wants town to mislynch for her. VOTE: shellyc
iamausername - Same as redcardinal.
Titus - A perfect angel
Primate - I like what he's posted but I'd like to see him more.
Wiyvern* arachnidsGrip - Lurking. Would compromise hrre.
Iconeum* - Same as Wiyvern.
Assemblerotws* - Same as Wivern.
NoPowerOverMe - Same as Primate.
EchoVision - Same as redcardinal.
Noraa - Pretty obvtown.

[Titus]

Wait Assemble is Murdercat. Change that to moderate town.

[redcardinal]

I like murdercat's logic for voting npom would be okay doing that today

[MURDERCAT]

What do you like from NPOM specifically?

[NoPowerOverMe]

I'm just a cool dude in general.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I want someone to explain how fakeclaiming gravedigger is even remotely probable. If I am scum it is because I am a scum gravedigger(I haven't checked to make sure there is a scum gravedigger role but someone said there is, I think somewhere.) But other than that I am nearly locktown.