Well if you read my post, I said you're a possible team because I dont think there's many other players who fit the bill for the Bugspray kill. The fact that Ari has said little is a big part of that as I feel like there's a chance they aren't very in tune with the game state atm.
And no, not really. If I wanted you out that bad I would've kept pushing yesterday. I feel like at this point you're probably self-resolving and there's not much of a need to push on you. TGP has been more scummy than you and I'm pretty sure based on their interaction with your wagon that you two can't be a team together.
In post 803, Uncrowned wrote:Ari hasn't seemed very solvey at all but that's probably a byproduct of inactivity, and I'm not that confident in my scumhunting to distinguish between scum inactivity and town activity.
Dostin imo still had a super scummy D1 and uhh... I'm kind of confused about why you'd obey an order to protect Datisi? Didn't you SR him hard?
If I didn't obey the order and then I died then nobody would know who I targeted because I didn't say anything before the Day ended or hide any hints in my posts. I did think it is a weird choice.
...that's not how this works from what I can tell. The captain would still know?
In post 825, Uncrowned wrote:Well if you read my post, I said you're a possible team because I dont think there's many other players who fit the bill for the Bugspray kill. The fact that Ari has said little is a big part of that as I feel like there's a chance they aren't very in tune with the game state atm.
And no, not really. If I wanted you out that bad I would've kept pushing yesterday. I feel like at this point you're probably self-resolving and there's not much of a need to push on you. TGP has been more scummy than you and I'm pretty sure based on their interaction with your wagon that you two can't be a team together.
I'm quiet but I'm around. I need to reread this dayphase so far because I've done so in spurts and remember little of what was said by whom.
I do agree that bugspray was a weird kill choice but I don't know what that means for us.
Also I dislike that dostin keeps like, doubling back on not knowing how their own role works?? I just don't understand why, unless they're scum trying to towntell and failing.
I think this might have a chance of being true. I had another similar idea that might be true but I don't know how probable it is. What if the other power role is a protective role like Doctor or Jailkeeper and the mafia have it? Maybe I wasn't killed because then whenever that role has to claim later and pretend to be a town role, people will ask why didn't they protect me if I claimed a role and a rank and was still killed on Night 1.
Ok I thought about it and if the Captain is a mafia then the protective if there is one would find it weird if they weren't ordered to protect me so they have to. If there is a protective role and they're the mafia then they would have to obey of course and they would know who to not target for the kill. But there's a 50% chance there is no other protective role besides me so all in all maybe this doesn't point to anything really.
In post 803, Uncrowned wrote:Ari hasn't seemed very solvey at all but that's probably a byproduct of inactivity, and I'm not that confident in my scumhunting to distinguish between scum inactivity and town activity.
Dostin imo still had a super scummy D1 and uhh... I'm kind of confused about why you'd obey an order to protect Datisi? Didn't you SR him hard?
If I didn't obey the order and then I died then nobody would know who I targeted because I didn't say anything before the Day ended or hide any hints in my posts. I did think it is a weird choice.
...that's not how this works from what I can tell. The captain would still know?
If I disobeyed the Captain knows I disobeyed but they don't learn who we decide to target in stead.
In post 803, Uncrowned wrote:Ari hasn't seemed very solvey at all but that's probably a byproduct of inactivity, and I'm not that confident in my scumhunting to distinguish between scum inactivity and town activity.
Dostin imo still had a super scummy D1 and uhh... I'm kind of confused about why you'd obey an order to protect Datisi? Didn't you SR him hard?
If I didn't obey the order and then I died then nobody would know who I targeted because I didn't say anything before the Day ended or hide any hints in my posts. I did think it is a weird choice.
...that's not how this works from what I can tell. The captain would still know?
If I disobeyed the Captain knows I disobeyed but they don't learn who we decide to target in stead.
I assumed if a PR disobeyed they forfeited their action that night
In post 827, Aristophanes wrote:Also I dislike that dostin keeps like, doubling back on not knowing how their own role works?? I just don't understand why, unless they're scum trying to towntell and failing.
When did I ever do that? I know exactly how my role works, you were the one who was just confused about it. When was I ever saying I was confused about how my role works? Are you reading closely?
In post 829, dostin wrote:but they don't learn who we decide to target in stead
if i recall correctly... you do not get this choice. you either obey (and do what you were told) or disobey (and do nothing). at least that's how it was run the first time, dunno if george runs it like that.
pedit: ayyy
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
In post 803, Uncrowned wrote:Ari hasn't seemed very solvey at all but that's probably a byproduct of inactivity, and I'm not that confident in my scumhunting to distinguish between scum inactivity and town activity.
Dostin imo still had a super scummy D1 and uhh... I'm kind of confused about why you'd obey an order to protect Datisi? Didn't you SR him hard?
If I didn't obey the order and then I died then nobody would know who I targeted because I didn't say anything before the Day ended or hide any hints in my posts. I did think it is a weird choice.
...that's not how this works from what I can tell. The captain would still know?
If I disobeyed the Captain knows I disobeyed but they don't learn who we decide to target in stead.
I assumed if a PR disobeyed they forfeited their action that night
Oh ok I just looked at the rules again and I think you are right. I thought we would get to decide our own target if we didn't like what the Captain chose.
In post 827, Aristophanes wrote:Also I dislike that dostin keeps like, doubling back on not knowing how their own role works?? I just don't understand why, unless they're scum trying to towntell and failing.
When did I ever do that? I know exactly how my role works, you were the one who was just confused about it. When was I ever saying I was confused about how my role works? Are you reading closely?
Literally rightnow you are showing you don't know how your role works as I have to assume both Datisi and I would not misread something like that.
You've shown time and time again that you have no clue how this setup works.
I think if you are the mafia then you are playing very well but I don't really think so as much anymore. I think Uncrowned is pretty scummy and was way scummier yesterday, and I think I can agree with a lot of the things that you are saying about iconeum. Ari is acting a little bit weird as well but I need to see some more posting from him before I can say for sure if I think he is town or mafia.
who are your townreads, who are your scumreads, and why? :upside_down_emoji:
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
In post 827, Aristophanes wrote:Also I dislike that dostin keeps like, doubling back on not knowing how their own role works?? I just don't understand why, unless they're scum trying to towntell and failing.
When did I ever do that? I know exactly how my role works, you were the one who was just confused about it. When was I ever saying I was confused about how my role works? Are you reading closely?
Literally rightnow you are showing you don't know how your role works as I have to assume both Datisi and I would not misread something like that.
You've shown time and time again that you have no clue how this setup works.
What you said happened in that first post to me still didn't ever happen even though I was wrong about what happens when you disobey an order. When did I double back on anything? And what is so hard to understand about someone being wrong about something? Why is the only explanation you can think of is that I am pretending to not understand how things work which doesn't even make any sense because how would that even mean I am town? Anybody can make mistakes and be wrong, but the fact that you didn't even consider that a possibility and said right away that all you can think of is that I am scum just pretending to not know things looks like you are just trying to make me look stupid. Maybe because Uncrowned just said one of us probably killed bugspray because we don't know what's going on apparently so you have to make me look worse than you.
uncrowned, should i be townreading you rn? like do you think you've been towny this game?
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
In post 839, Uncrowned wrote:Dostin/TGP have been so weird around each other. I can't decide if they have partner equity or not lmao
Dostin explain your progression on Datisi please
I don't remember very many of TGP's posts, but I just looked back and I saw when they reversed their read on me all of a sudden yesterday and I thought it felt really weird and didn't make any sense with the timing of it.
I thought Datisi was scummy very early in the game but most of his posts since then have been pretty towny, but I don't really think he is definitely town, I'm just a lot a lot less suspicious than I was at the very start of the game. His push against iconeum makes a lot of sense and the way he has treated my slot makes sense to me for town to be doing as well.
who are your townreads, who are your scumreads, and why? :upside_down_emoji:
XD
Okay I should have expected that tbh.
dostin gets to be town for now. I was thinking about the lack of game-mechanics knowledge in the last few posts and really I don't think scum would allow a scummate to be this uneducated about their role and how it works. Plus, the nature of the role means we may find out sooner than later and I'm willing to let that go.
TGP scum based on that hammer. I think they are by far the best Elim for today and we should be hitting scum there.
Datisi town. I mean, I made this case yesterday and I don't see Datisi killing Bugs, plus posting today has been good.
Icon could go either way and Imma have to read that better to give a proper answer here.
I forget that Username and Uncrowned exist most of the time? I suppose that's 2 nulls but I should probably give them a deepdive too and get an actual answer here.
In post 842, Uncrowned wrote:Also Dostin who do you think would want to kill Bugspray
I have no idea that kill makes not a lot of sense for any strategy I can think of. Maybe they thought that nobody would want to vote them out again after yesterday and everyone believed their claim, but I think there would have to be better reasons somewhere else.