what this is saying was that because I could not articulate reasons, the read was useless to me at that time. regardless, much has happened since then.In post 455, Untrod Tripod wrote:VP I think is scummy for reasons I can't articulate, so that read is weak and useless to me at the moment
idk saying a read is "weak, and therefore useless" to me reads that the person doesn't have convictions in that read so it's not really a solid read.In post 899, Gamma Emerald wrote:He says it's "weak, and therefore useless"
I disagree with that sentiment, but he essentially is unwilling to vote VP despite having scum feelings from him
Honestly thinking about it UT's perspective here reeks of scum motivation, he's not scumhunting, just pushing people who look bad
"everyone must do things exactly the way I do them, and come to the same conclusions that I come to, or they are not even trying"In post 904, Gamma Emerald wrote:would it not do to shore that read up though? It's the same issue I brought up regarding baltar where the solving is not present imo
I keep going back and forth in my head about who is scummier between noraa and gamma.In post 906, Untrod Tripod wrote:VP, why aren't you voting?
Yes, definitely.In post 908, Untrod Tripod wrote:would u like to talk about it
not anymore but yeah I used to do it a shit ton so this is fair.In post 905, notscience wrote:She “townslips” all the time, hence the increased sensitivity to it.
Kinda rude for u to say that. ur basically just justifying a vote on me as a Pl and *assuming* all 4 are town.In post 909, VP Baltar wrote:My gut says gamma is more scummy overall, but if we do have a four town situation, I think Noraa is less utility because I don't read Cakez as scum at all right now and she seems keyed up to auto challenge him.
a. why would you assume that autochallenge would happen?In post 909, VP Baltar wrote:I don't read Cakez as scum at all right now and she seems keyed up to auto challenge him.
has the conversation completely broken down? I thought you were super duper PT best friendsIn post 909, VP Baltar wrote:I'm pretty bugged out by the way she acted toward me in the PT
so what your issue boils down to here is that Gamma made an effort post, then made a utilitarian vote? idgi. that tracks, for me.In post 909, VP Baltar wrote:On Gamma, I've expressed previously why I thought he was scummy. His big ass post did give me some pause. It felt like he was genuinely trying to work through things, and his conclusion was I'm the best yeet today. Ok, fine. But then he votes pooky because he doesn't think he can get the votes on me? That's kind of weird from my perspective. I wouldn't think pooky is any more likely than me today, if I'm just trying to broadly read the game state. So, he is saying he has such a strong town read on noraa that Pooky and I are essentially equitable outcomes, and he'll support whoever is more likely? Idk, the whole thing feels kind of like contrived reasoning.
You understand how silly this post is, right?In post 911, Noraa wrote:Kinda rude for u to say that. ur basically just justifying a vote on me as a Pl and *assuming* all 4 are town.In post 909, VP Baltar wrote:My gut says gamma is more scummy overall, but if we do have a four town situation, I think Noraa is less utility because I don't read Cakez as scum at all right now and she seems keyed up to auto challenge him.
Ur like gamma is scummier but Noraa is more negative utility to town. Hence justifying ur vote on both largest wagons of the day.
Maybe I can see
Vp/Notsci/Cake/__
Yeah, not talking in PT. I'd still be open to it, but noraa went off on me last time I tried when I asked her to explain her every yeet is good statement. I don't think it's on me to spark up the convo again.In post 912, Untrod Tripod wrote:has the conversation completely broken down? I thought you were super duper PT best friends
Eh, it wasn't like it was that or gamma died. I don't understand townreading noraa over pooky here. Unless there is something more in the PT that is tripping him up.In post 912, Untrod Tripod wrote:so what your issue boils down to here is that Gamma made an effort post, then made a utilitarian vote? idgi. that tracks, for me.
*gestures vaguely in the direction of the concept that people tend to like people who act like they do*In post 915, VP Baltar wrote:I don't understand townreading noraa over pooky here
Was this meant to be a rhetorical set of questions refuting gamma?In post 906, Untrod Tripod wrote:"everyone must do things exactly the way I do them, and come to the same conclusions that I come to, or they are not even trying"In post 904, Gamma Emerald wrote:would it not do to shore that read up though? It's the same issue I brought up regarding baltar where the solving is not present imo
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VP, why aren't you voting?
Lillith, why aren't you voting?
Cakez, why the Gamma vote?
Pooky, why are you still on VP?
AGar, why the Gamma vote?
Haha, no comment.In post 916, Untrod Tripod wrote:*gestures vaguely in the direction of the concept that people tend to like people who act like they do*In post 915, VP Baltar wrote:I don't understand townreading noraa over pooky here
??? Here’s the post you made:In post 755, Noraa wrote:Oh I SRed all three of them at the time that I made that post.In post 731, lilith2013 wrote:I’m planning on rereading gamma in the context of VP’s points against him but have to do work so hopefully later today
Also I reeeeeally don’t like noraa’s posts being like “this is why the other people in the pool are scummier than me” but not actually scumreading any of them
which implies that you didn’t have a firm scumread onIn post 714, Noraa wrote:In the current bracket, im not sure who is scum or if there even is scum.
oh, no. the line was supposed to indicate that it was an unrelated thought.In post 917, lilith2013 wrote:Was this meant to be a rhetorical set of questions refuting gamma?
I don't understand the connection between what you quoted and what you saidIn post 774, Gamma Emerald wrote:what makes you sure the challenge wouldn't benefit town, then?In post 770, SirCakez wrote:I didn't say that?
Noraa's push on me is so bad regardless of alignment here and everything she posts feels manufactured
you're so confibiased it's unrealIn post 775, Noraa wrote:Notice Notsci and Cake avoiding my wagon like the plague.
Cake/Notsci both scum anyways.
If I truly am wrong somehow in these reads, I still am 100% sure {Cake, Notsci} contains at least 1 scum.
how can you be this certain in your reads
I concur
I'm having a problem separating personality from alignment in this case so I'm not sureIn post 918, VP Baltar wrote:Do you feel gamma is town here?
at what point for you does the preponderance of weird/bad posts become scummy?In post 921, SirCakez wrote:you're so confibiased it's unreal
maybe instead of doing mental gymnastics to somehow confirm to yourself that I'm scum why not just look at the obvious and realize I'm not voting you because I'm not scum and I'm not scumreading you
this is scummy fencesittingIn post 860, Gamma Emerald wrote:But I don't have that much conviction on you being scum VP. I just think you're the most likely out of the 4. But if we're not doing you I'd rather do pooky who I'm not strongly town on
again you're doing ridiculous things to fit your own bias when this literally means nothing other than notsci didn't read the rulesIn post 884, Noraa wrote:Well this is a very forced town slip :/In post 881, notscience wrote:Am I allowed to vote no elim
when I see actual scum motivation and not just Noraa's typical AtE biased flailIn post 922, Untrod Tripod wrote:at what point for you does the preponderance of weird/bad posts become scummy?