Silent Star 3: Royalty

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VC on this page.

I appreciate you Jessie. You are brilliant and a beautiful part of our beautiful game.

I am sorry for any part I've played in making this game less enjoyable for you - I am not great at controlling my emotions and I really should be.

[Flea The Magician]

Its why I brainstream, honestly.

Let people try and decode what I'm thinking as I go, then I can read it back to and clarify if I need to.

[Flea The Magician]

What is this "emotional control" you speak of?

[Infinity 324]

Yeah I get it jessie, mafia too often affects my emotional state outside the game and taking a break is a good idea.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

infinity im re-reading start of day d2 you kind of looking terrible for defending dunn from me and gloria looks great for slapping you down.

from 1625 onwards.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm not actually sure you hard-defend a scum-buddy like that if you're scum because nobody else on the scum team is defending dunn.

it's near TSTBS levels of bad.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

The probability of a given set of 4 people currently alive having at least 1 scum (assuming 3 scum total) is about 75%. If dunn is scum, scum are just as likely to vote dunn or TGP since it doesn’t matter to them who gets limmed. If dunn is scum, scum would almost never vote dunn. Since 4 people excluding myself voted dunn, that group is likely to have at least 1 scum, so dunn is likely town.

Also yeah, there was almost no resistance to dunn.

like im not sure you can make such a bad post if you are scum with dunn because its just so ugh.

[Infinity 324]

I see what you’re saying, but dunn wasn’t ever in danger after the TGP elim.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yes,

you were his biggest defender and a reason why he was never in danger.

[Infinity 324]

But who besides you and gloria were pushing dunn? I think hopkirk but that’s it. There just weren’t the votes.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

But you don't know that at the beginning of a day.

TGP's dying words were to power-elim dunn.

The game state opens up between days when all the votes that were on a previously eliminated player are suddenly free to go anywhere - dunn was the #2 wagon and the strongest SR of the dying townie. Momentum would be on him if people follow through - something the scum can't afford to happen.

[Infinity 324]

Idk what to tell you, I do think that scum!me could’ve waited to see whether a hard defense was really needed but maybe I would’ve played the same way as scum. I don’t know.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Gloria's posts from 1475 on feel so good :/ we really should've killed dunn there.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

flea/tweetie deflecting gloria's push on dunn, feels like she was so close to voting him :/

[Infinity 324]

It did, I don’t think there was anything stopping her from changing her mind to TGP at deadline if necessary though?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

it wouldn't matter because you unvoted and switched to TGP.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I do kinda see how these could be real thoughts in your head about not wanting the dunn wagon that you started in the first place.

I'm going to re-read your explanations from D2-start about why you scuttled your own wagon.

[Infinity 324]

I think I was biased since I voted dunn specifically to see how much traction it would get and it got more than I expected. So I weighted that info more heavily than I should’ve if that makes sense.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yes it does make sense

for what it's worth I do see your posts on transition as someone who is genuinely confused - I don't think scum have an incentive to defend dunnstral as much over the top as you have.

Skitter's celebration of you changing your vote actually doesn't seem faked - she seems happy you switched your vote to TGP.

Scum had enough votes off-wagon between gyp/tweet to force TGP-death even if you stayed on the dunn-wagon so it doesn't make sense in terms of planning for you to win as deepwolf.

I am processing D1-end again.

[Hectic]

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Votecount 3.0.5

[1] Flea The Magician:

Flea The Magician

[6] Not Voting:

Isis, Ydrasse, Infinity 324, Gloria Cleary, PookyTheMagicalBear, team rocket queen

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to launch. If there is no majority by the deadline, plurality will decide.

The deadline is in (expired on 2020-12-17 19:22:19).

Ydrasse asks Gloria Cleary to dance.

Gloria Cleary asks PookyTheMagicalBear to dance.

Joint Mod ISO

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I get the TMI thing a lot, it’s an unfortunate result of being a gut-based player. But that’s an acceptable answer.

It’s a silly reason, but I still feel like dunn is >rand scum gut from taylor not engaging me on game-relevant content.

what happened to this?

[Infinity 324]

Dunn started posting and looked town to me. I TRed his flippant “idgaf what you say I’ll solve when I solve” attitude. Though I probably should’ve been more skeptical since I have a history of misreading dunn. Dunn is often limbait though ime.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

D1 timeline:



This is from Kanna's VC here 1370

the VC is favorable for scum with TGP-5 vs Skitter-3 with only 2 known conspirators out of the 5.

then something curious happens - Infinity who unvoted skitter, votes for Dunn, and then Isis follows. Dunn says to Isis to "go away sweaty" and 2 more votes follow and we are now tied at 4-4 btw TGP/Dunn, which really is Dunn ahead since TGP has yet to vote for Dunn.

11AM Gloria votes for TGP, 3PM TGP votes for Dunn making it 5-5.

at 5pm Gloria unvotes Dunn and says she is re-evaluating. - making it 5-4 TGP v Dunn

This is a important stage in the game because with the wagons at 5-4 scum are in real danger of losing this game. - I am pushing for Dunn to die here and I think Dunn made some TMI posts here that Gloria is re-evaluating, Tweetie comes in out of nowhere to defend Dunn so the threat should feel real to scum-side that Gloria is going to put her vote to Dunn and momentum could just lead to scum-loss there.

Flea is also iso-rereading Dunn.

The skitter/infinity convo doesn't feel like S/S theater, I think she really is trying to convince him to vote for TGP and leave his vote there:

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=84991&start=1525

She starts by saying infinity is the "towniest person here" and "yay" when he flips his vote and I think she is pocketing him to get him to vote for TGP over dunn?

@jessie's vote on TGP feels like it has the least "substance" behind it, I'd like to know why she voted for TGP over dunn here:

1547

Flea's re-evaluation post of Dunn: 1517 feels genuine.

an interesting thing to note here is the scum-strategy and how they played at the end of D1.

Even though their buddy Dunn was under pressure at 5-5 with a serious chance things will swing badly for them if Gloria puts her vote on Dunnstral, they are patient and do not move tweet or gypyx onto TGP, instead the strategy feels more passive if Infinity is green here.

[Gloria Cleary]

He isn’t solvey and sorting players like he usually does as town

sorry is this about dunn or hopkirk? cuz i thought dunn at first and i would in no way agree with this assessment of dunn at all ^

I don’t know why, every towngame I ‘ve read of his, he has done more than he is here. He’s only given one townread so far: Flea and two maybe three scumreads: TGP, and now Pooky. And even that post he made about launching players due to their post count. he can’t bother to make actual reads or what?

At any rate Isis is a terrible vote. I strongly tr her pre-flip and it’s actually even stronger post-flip.

People think Dunn is townier than Pooky.

I actually think I’ve seen dunn do more in scumganes than town games generally. I don’t think lurking is scummy at all for him.

Who said I sr him for lurking, because I’m dam sure I never said anything of the kind.

You SR him for not doing enough. Close enough.

No but hey thanks for telling me what I’m NOT thinking. It’s WHAT he’s doing when he’s posting that I’m scumreading him for.

I thought you implied it in 1633 but fair enough.

Maybe I’m just not doing a terrific job of articulating it well. It’s the content of his posts I dislike. He really isn’t saying much of anything of substance plus his tone seems kind of off. Town!Dunn may lurk and not post a lot that is true but when he does it’s useful content and solvey, no matter how much or how little. It’s not the number of posts, it’s what he’s saying in them.

It’s more that scum would almost never vote dunn in that situation, and statistically there’s very likely at least one scum on that wagon (of 5 at its height, I believe)

Statistically, scum is far more likely to be on TOWN!TGP wagon, since there was heavy resistance to Dunn. Why would scum try to derail a wagon on TGP? That makes absolutely no sense.

Yes Infinity, your scumread on me makes a great deal of sense,

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yea i dont think gloria does that play when dunn is at 5 votes and she's thinking of putting him at E-1

Tweetie coming in and telling Gloria noo noo noo feels more like scum panic than scum theater.