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Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:16 am

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if y'all wanna flip DV or Klyne or whoever for the wolf equity then fine let's do that.

consider my vote on VOTE: The Bulge but i am spiritually on any top wagon other than me at eod
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Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:33 am

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: DeasVail

I've changed my mind on IV and want him to have another day. The Bulge isn't a terrible elim either. Could compromise there.
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Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:35 am

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In post 1229, DeasVail wrote:actually that might be controversial right now

I think this is best

UNVOTE: VP Baltar
VOTE: MURDERCAT
This is a good post to yeet someone over, on top of all the reachy stuff DV was doing toward me recently.
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Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:36 am

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VOTE: deasvail

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Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:47 am

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woops passed out on the couch last night

VOTE: deasvail choo choo?

could be convinced to murder cat. don't wanna do iv today. vpb still town. datisi townier. username scummier.
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Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:51 am

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i don't like iv's vote tho
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Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:01 am

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In post 1255, The Bulge wrote:i don't like iv's vote tho
It seems reasonable given you've disappeared from the game.

But anyhow, everyone should either vote DV or Murdercat at this point. Let's see a hammer folks!
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Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:17 am

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I liked your comments, IV.

Just to contextualize the fragment of the covid and the tell of minimega: I believe that the reason for the low energy on the part of Plus was true, but the way he dealt with this scenario seemed to me exaggerated, in the sense that it reflected me more as scum-apathetic than town-apathetic. In relation to mini's tell, this is a personal interpretation that I had about the fact that BM seems to avoid scums games when he is already in other simultaneous games, having the same impression about the Mini (I can't go into details about that).

Now, talking about your motivation to win, I understood what you said about the non-pleasure of being eliminated incorrectly, but I still haven't been able to connect the "I want to eliminate scum" to the urgency you suggest when you say that you need to be open, townspew and etc. I agree that the deadline is very close, but I can't see as genuine the weight that you indirectly suggest that the game has for you, which sounds like an image maintenance in my opinion.
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Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:20 am

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But if there is no interest on IV, I can support a wagon on DV.
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Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:28 am

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IV, regardless of your alignment, I respect your positive attitude of focusing on not being eliminated and trying to help in general. If you are not eliminated today, I will try to open my mind about your slot.
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Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 6:39 am

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This question essentially boils down to taking the scum I feel more confident about (MURDERCAT) or the one who might kill us (DV).
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Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:09 am

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In post 1260, Titus wrote:This question essentially boils down to taking the scum I feel more confident about (MURDERCAT) or the one who might kill us (DV).
Fwiw, I think either yeet is probably acceptable. I'd like to hit a wolf today because the game is basically a lock for town if we do I think, but getting another mafia isn't a disaster. I say vote what feels right.
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Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:14 am

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In post 1261, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1260, Titus wrote:This question essentially boils down to taking the scum I feel more confident about (MURDERCAT) or the one who might kill us (DV).
Fwiw, I think either yeet is probably acceptable. I'd like to hit a wolf today because the game is basically a lock for town if we do I think, but getting another mafia isn't a disaster. I say vote what feels right.
I pmed the mod asking for a VC. That will likely be my tiebreaker.
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Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:55 am

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In post 1142, DeasVail wrote:Seems like a weird discred to me
It's not a discred, I was genuinely asking
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Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:57 am

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In post 1207, innocentvillager wrote:don't think MC has to be scum but i might put him back to null ish? didnt read through the MC case carefully tho. i see why scum is likely in Klyne, DV, Plus, MC though.
Where does this come from after your town lean on me?
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Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:00 am

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In post 1254, The Bulge wrote:woops passed out on the couch last night

VOTE: deasvail choo choo?

could be convinced to murder cat. don't wanna do iv today. vpb still town. datisi townier. username scummier.
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Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:03 am

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I think the push on me is coming from scum (obviously) but honestly I have done nothing this game
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Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:17 am

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In post 1262, Titus wrote:
In post 1261, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1260, Titus wrote:This question essentially boils down to taking the scum I feel more confident about (MURDERCAT) or the one who might kill us (DV).
Fwiw, I think either yeet is probably acceptable. I'd like to hit a wolf today because the game is basically a lock for town if we do I think, but getting another mafia isn't a disaster. I say vote what feels right.
I pmed the mod asking for a VC. That will likely be my tiebreaker.
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Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:23 am

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In post 1266, MURDERCAT wrote:I think the push on me is coming from scum (obviously) but honestly I have done nothing this game
Who is scum in your opinion?
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Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:56 am

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Titus and DV.
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Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:20 am

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In post 1252, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1229, DeasVail wrote:actually that might be controversial right now

I think this is best

UNVOTE: VP Baltar
VOTE: MURDERCAT
This is a good post to yeet someone over, on top of all the reachy stuff DV was doing toward me recently.
why does this post you quoted come from scum rather than town?
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Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:22 am

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In post 1266, MURDERCAT wrote:I think the push on me is coming from scum (obviously) but honestly I have done nothing this game
why does it obviously come from scum if you yourself say you have done nothing? Why wouldn't town suspect you if you're not playing your usual game?
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Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:31 am

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Some key things from this game day that I'm concerned by from MURDERCAT:

In line with the "looking helpful" post approach, MC posts and about BM's posts that he thought were useful but doesn't really seem to go anywhere with it. Post 855 is a lot of well the posting says this but....

suggests strongly thinking username and titus are scum but there is little content about Titus particularly despite it being a pretty consistent scumread for MC in addition to MC not actually thinking that the IV slot was scum.

I remember strongly thinking that MC was mafia (probably in response to a case someone made) but I think that MC is generally scummy and makes a good elimination for today.

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I still think that VP is scum. I think that the switch onto my wagon from thinking I was misyeet bait is not actually coming from a mindset of working out whether my play comes from scum. I honestly think he's just butthurt over being suspected for what he sees as not-good-enough reasoning and while this is a story that works from town as well I think that the more lazy approach to reads here comes from scum.

I am less strongly scumreading Klyne than I was.
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Post Post #1273 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:50 am

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In post 1272, DeasVail wrote:I am less strongly scumreading Klyne than I was.
talk to me about this. i am not feeling the same way at all.
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Post Post #1274 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:59 am

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In post 1273, iamausername wrote:
In post 1272, DeasVail wrote:I am less strongly scumreading Klyne than I was.
talk to me about this. i am not feeling the same way at all.
It’s the sharp decline in activity that’s getting me. I don’t think that’s alignment-relevant, plus I think that the vote on me and suggesting me as a wagon was quite proactive and made a lot of sense from Klyne’s perspective as a vote that could be achieved this day.
I don’t have a townread on the slot but I’m having doubts

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