Open 806: JK9++ (Game Over!)

[seCret hYdra]

i didn't post 192 (i also feel like that should be somewhat self-evident from the very next few posts)
and like i (i.e. my slot) stopped voting you because mena wanted to do something different. if it were just me i probably would have been on you this whole time. it's a little strange to me that that's your critique of my vote on you given that this is a hydra ...

~ skitter

i did not track this

now I just want to policy both the hydras and start a micro

death to all hydras!

-seCret

[seCret hYdra]

boom

[implosion]

this reads like you don't wanna commit to 'too many townreads', but also don't really wanna have scumreads that can bite you, ya feel?

The first part is probably true!

How are you easy to read? I don't think I've played with either head.

[Isis]

not wanting to solve seCret hyDra right now is very resonant from my town perspective

[Bridgeburners]

VOTE: ISIS

E-2/NM E-1

-QB

[Bridgeburners]

-Probably going to keep most of this shallow for the sake of actually getting back into the thread. Contents of this post apply up through #173, which is where I last left off reading before checking out.

fwiw the bit in particular that mena didn't like was the fact that you came around to aaron-scum just when the wagon was heating up. i don't think he particularly minds that you didn't actualy lay a vote down just then, but rather that you made a point of scumreading him just as that wagon was becoming a thing

it seems like schiavetto had that read before they even know my wagon was a thing so that reasoning doesn't check out

Depends on whether the readslist was authentically done in catchup or was done knowing what the gamestate was

-QB

[Bridgeburners]

For instance, I’m caught up, but if I was scum there’s a reasonable chance I’d pretend I wasn’t so I could react to things ~organically~ as I posted on things of interest to me

And I think that’s a pretty normal thought process for scum to have, to try and make catchups look natural

-QB

[Bridgeburners]

you can tell mena that i do like schiavetti and if he wants to fight over it he can come out and play himself

Okay why?

I don’t disagree that schiavetto has been sort of charming so far but not in an AI way and to a degree I think that charming is glibness, which I see more as a scum trait

Happy to listen on why he’s town tho

-QB

[Bridgeburners]

bridge

Explain

-QB

[Bridgeburners]

i'd still like to know what this was/is about.

I thought it was fairly well known that I am against explicit discussion of townblocs/forming townblocs in almost a direct inverse proportion to how much I like actually having them

I guess apparently not so let me be clear: I am against explicit discussion of townblocs/forming townblocs in direct inverse proportion to how much I like having townblocs

-QB

[Bridgeburners]

Datisi you feel kind of flat this game but I can’t put my finger on exactly what it is

To be clear, this is not a scumread from me it’s just that you seem hard for me to get a read on here and that’s continuing at this point whereas I was saying to skitt that I thought I would have a firmer take by later in D1 (she asked like the first irl day I think?) and that’s just not happening so far

-QB

[Isis]

how am i supposed to play mafia with hydras that unvote and revote from login to login and tell me I can't try to sort their voting pattern
I'm exasperated

[Isis]

can you ban one of your heads from using vote tags if you're going to play like this?

[Isis]

seriously

[Bridgeburners]

not understanding a single thing bridge is saying rn lmao

I (the first person pronoun -- referring in this case to the player slot known as "bridge burners", specifically the Quick Ben head of the hydra) am (first person conjugation of the verb "to be") prepared (to be willing to) to write (verb -- to inscribe words using keyboard or pen that have meaning and allow communication with others) one (1) (number, used to signify quantity) haiku (a short poetic form generally consisting of a 5 syllable line, followed by a 7 syllable line, followed by a 5 syllable line, although these conventions can be broken when writing in English and not in the original Japanese) or (used to link two alternative options) one (1) (number again) limerick (a humorous poetic form with a rhyme pattern of AABBA, typically rather irreverent) for anyone (one of the two poetic options will be designed the person accepting my offer) who votes (who uses the code

Code: Select all

[vote][/vote]

to place a vote within this game of mafia, signifying who they would like to be eliminated today) scipio (another player in the game) rn (contraction; signifies "right now") so we (referring to the rest of the players in the game) can (to be able to) end (to finish, terminate) D1 (the first day of play in most mafia games and variants) in under (to be below a certain number) 10 (another number, signifying ten individual units of a thing) pages (25 posts on mafiascum(dot)net).

I hope this clears things up!

1 This is a style of humor people enjoy somewhat more often as scum

didn't tell the mod right away about her V/LA in Mini 2113 as town

If you like I can find you any one of a million towngames where skitt’s first post has been to greet people and to announce her VLA to the mod

C-

Hmm, did you actually roll scum this game isis?

2 This response has really bad "I'm scum but that's not why" vibes. The segmenting between "you're wrong" and "you're scum", from these being separate posts, is really troubling. As town the notions would be unified, as scum they'd be separated into steps. I don't actually have an elegant explanation why, I'm just remembering my own town and scum thought processes when I deal with getting pushed. Deciding to push back is a something to be chosen instead of felt.

[snip]

(1) this is just a very meh reason to give for scumreading us/me when I feel my sense of humour doesn’t change much regardless of alignment and I’m pretty sure Isis has played with me enough that I wouldn’t expect her to push an angle along these lines if town

(2) it’s literally just my thought process? Like maybe I post more than I should as soon as one thought is complete

But that was the first thing that struck me as bizarr-o regarding 175 — I then looked at it overall again and was like “oh, this is a pretty bad post in general huh? Maybe isis is scum” and made the follow up

So this feels like a very dubious take where you’re at best extrapolating from how you!scum would approach the game and not thinking about how mena!scum approaches a game

-QB

[Bridgeburners]

I’m happy for you to try to case us on the back of voting pattern if you think you can make it stick I just think you won’t be able to!

And the reason we’re voting you is because skitter said to vote who I wanted and you’re still the person who I most want to see eliminated today

-QB

[Bridgeburners]

Ideally soon, so can we get an intent and a claim?

-QB

[seCret hYdra]

you can tell mena that i do like schiavetti and if he wants to fight over it he can come out and play himself

Okay why?

I don’t disagree that schiavetto has been sort of charming so far but not in an AI way and to a degree I think that charming is glibness, which I see more as a scum trait

Happy to listen on why he’s town tho

-QB

i disagree that the 'charm' is NAI, to me it was pretty clearly done in a very natural and agenda-free manner, where he just spouted his thoughts
also i'm a sucker for stuff like those YT links
nothing feels forced or off

there's plenty for an early day 1 townpile

-seCret

[Not_Mafia]

maybe we should all just sheep n_m.

I agree

[Datisi]

- i don't particularly like dats' take in 483 and 486

what do you not like about them?

@implo, can you tell me what you found ~transparently town~?

Is Datisi like, a notably good scum player?

Not particularly

VOTE: AaronFrost
but with an eyeroll

why's aaron scum, isis?

oh my god love the youtube readslist
back to game stuff, i think i like the readslist from schiavetto. especially ben & aaron thoughts, i feel like they mimic my own. should i be worried about getting pocketed here?

what do you dislike about the isis wagon?

i said it earlier, as a whole i didn't really vibe with her reaction to getting wagoned as an experienced-scum reaction. like calling ben townie when she could've started pushing there (and yeah i'm kinda ignoring them being s/s for now but if either of them flips scum this might be an interesting part to come back to) and just weakly confirming a townie feeling on implo is just *not* how i'd expect scum to react in that situation, like i'd rather expect them to start going after *someone*

of course now she's voting *you* for reasons i don't quite get so assdkjfhk

i think? skitt unvoting isis in 559 is +town
i'd imagine scum!skitt keeps pushing there
but also do i know how to read skitt
the answer is no

do people even read these wallposts? should i start separating these into multiple posts?

I thought it was fairly well known that I am against explicit discussion of townblocs/forming townblocs in almost a direct inverse proportion to how much I like actually having them

i actually did not know/remember that
i thought it had something to do with your read on me, since like, before that was a post where you (hilariously and originally) tried to dayvig me and that post was halting a townblocc that i was in

i thought you were townreading me?

and /shrug. usually at this point i'd have a scumread(s) i believed in enough to start pushing them but this whole game feels like mud right now because i've seen at least some townie things from like, everyone here (except maybe ben but i feel like that requires reevaluation, and N_M but that's N_M.)

so now it's either idle around and wait until my gut really goes !!! at something or reread parts of the game and start pushing bullshit until i figure something out
i haven't yet decided what i want to do with my life

(oh yeah, i lied yesterday. i also played with ben for like 5 minutes in jungle oligarchy, he repped in close to eod1 and immediately got nightkilled, and i was townreading him but i was also townreading his predecessor so yeah.)

[seCret hYdra]

do people even read these wallposts? should i start separating these into multiple posts?

i personally am unable to comprend the words written in a post past 1O lines tbh

[seCret hYdra]

how am i supposed to play mafia with hydras that unvote and revote from login to login and tell me I can't try to sort their voting pattern
I'm exasperated

hmmm tell me more, you get double voting patterns and you can't read that? or am me misundersteanding

also on a side note, did anyone do the math on the odds of having 2 scum?

- hYdra

[Infinity 324]

UNVOTE: I changed my mind (again)

Also we were already on E-2 and I announced it shame on you Quick Ben

[ben dover123]

sEcret hYdra has only 1 notable thing, that's the progression from 327 (saying Datisi's scumrange has exploded) to 328 (TR'ing Datisi early) which is weird but I think it's the towny weird? Other than that nothing really is telling from them imo.

we have early townreads, an attempt at a townblock, a push on isis and those thoughts on datisi

saying we 'only have this 1 thing we did' is a misrep and i don't take those lightly…

-seCret

Sorry, I meant for me. I think you did do other things but really the only part of your ISO that I thought was telling was that 1 progression there.

bridge

Explain

-QB

Before I thought your memes were giving me townvibes but recently your actions, like jumping from scipio, to isis, to me, seem off. I can't put my finger on what's going on yet but I'm starting to dislike the vibe around you. I'll probably have to do an ISO to completely cap my thoughts soon.

[ben dover123]

Well, town apathy is kicking in as you guys said.

VOTE: AFF we need wagons and Isis isn't one I'm joining.