Open 806: JK9++ (Game Over!)

[Shirou]

If you've not noticed yet I think infinity is more likely than not town and he seems under the illusion that my reads are >rand

I wish to keep him under that illusion

I can't let him notice I'm using random.org in my town games

p-edit: got it

[Shirou]

I believe both Implosion/SS are at E-3 at the moment.

[Shirou]

I can be wrong but I believe on this more

VOTE: Something_Smart

[Shirou]

I can be wrong but I believe on this more

VOTE: Something_Smart

I can be wrong on implosion*

[petapan]

i vote s_s 10 times out of 10 there because i don't really feel implo-scum, reasons against him aren't very strong and i felt like his reaction to me accusing him out of nowhere was ~fine

[Shirou]

I think you should just vote in that case peta

I wasn't voting before because I was considering other options

It's E-2 with me. Gonna get to E-1 with you.

For what it's worth Implo is the most likely wagon to go through I think, there isn't a final vote for S_S based on the current reads of the table unless I'm mistaken somewhere.

[Bridgeburners]

UNVOTE:

E-2 is E-1 given that NM is in this game

-QB

[Bridgeburners]

and idk if skitt will be able to be around before eod1 but if she does end up being able to I'd like to give her a chance to have input before we finish

-QB

[Shirou]

Votecount 1.9

Something_Smart (6) - implosion, Datisi, Not_Mafia, Bridgeburners, Shirou, Petapan
Implosion (7) - PenguinPower, Infinity 324, seCret hYdra, Schiavetto, Isis, Aaronfrost, Something_Smart

This is what the final VC looks like in the most balanced scenario here

Bridge may vote Implosion though from the Skitter's head, therefore it's 8 vs 5 unless either Infinity or Sec-Hyd changes their mind.

Which also makes me think S_S is the superior wagon overall, to be fair.

[Shirou]

UNVOTE:

E-2 is E-1 given that NM is in this game

-QB

N_M is already on the S_S wagon, for what it's worth.

[Shirou]

[Isis, Aaron, S_S] will eventually compromise on Implosion if they uphold their current opinions on the game. That's already 7 votes with what we currently have.

[Bridgeburners]

oh

VOTE: S_S

-QB

[petapan]

tbh i want to provide actual input too and maybe, like, engage with the implo votes because that being a wagon is kind of surprising

although tbh if there was support i'd move to aaronfrost and that is not just because i have personal bias for implosion

[PenguinPower]

[Shirou]

Ok now I can rest here as well and have fun until people come to cast the final votes

Sorry if wrong @SS

[SirCakez]

Votecount 1.10

Something_Smart (5) - implosion, Datisi, Not_Mafia, Shirou, Bridgeburners
Implosion (4) - PenguinPower, Infinity 324, seCret hYdra, Schiavetto
Bridgeburners (1) - Isis
PenguinPower (1) - Something_Smart

Not voting (2) - AaronFrost, Petapan

(expired on 2021-02-16 10:41:00) remain until day end

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to reach a majority.

[petapan]

i can't tell if you realize me calling it

a sheep vote

was a joke or not

it's

a vote on a player that i believe to be scummy

xk no los dos?

xk

Pls no

-QB

<3

a vote can be both; this was not.

I mean, I just think it's weird that in the posts directly following your vote on ben, you outright acknowledge that other players have had a strong impact on your reads this game--so why the backpedaling?

I don't like how implosion is trying to push the ben elim even though he's claimed. Bridge's reaction feels like genuine paranoia while implosion's does not.

Yeah, that tracks

1032 feels nitpicky to me, though idk if I'd say nitpicky & scummy. 1051 feels bargainy in a gross way though. Might be nothing, might come back to it.

1032 feels nitpicky to me, though idk if I'd say nitpicky & scummy. 1051 feels bargainy in a gross way though. Might be nothing, might come back to it.

Wanna go back to implo?

Right so, part of it may just be me coming off the tail of that whole back-and-forth from earlier over the sheep-but-not-actually-sheep vote on ben from earlier. Like, I do think 831 is a decent take on Ben's initial reaction to his wagon, but it's hard for me to put too much stock in that when it'd already seen a fair amt of attention in the thread at that point. Imp addressed some of my concerns abt it but it's still like... Even jokingly, you called it a sheep vote, in a context where it's not outrageous to interpret it as such, and then spent a solid chunk of time talking around the optics of the vote.

The other thing I'm struggling with here is like--I don't think "I'd be willing to vote sechyd" is

entirely

too far out of left field for imp, but the "I will if you will" + the throwaway line at the end of post kind of puts it in this space for me where it lends itself pretty easily to a "haha, just kidding... unless " situation. And it's like... the build-up there seems to run parallel to some of the other heat Shydra's been getting in thread (to be clear: I don't think it's outrageous to read them here, the willful ignorance angle Isis was poking at earlier has some bite to it), but the progression just kind of goes Zero Engagement -> Admittedly Zero Engagement -> Doing the Bare Minimum -> Suddenly Very Prickly in these later interactions--almost like it's just capitalizing off the attn that's already been put on the spot? The 0 to 60 really stands out to me, but to put it on skitters like that feels like it's just making it easier to detach himself from the vote if things go sotuh/recontextualize the push as needed depending on how things pan out. I'm tinfoiling a bit and kind of rambling, but hopefully you get where I'm coming from with it. Also kind of Huh? for me that he gives us 1023 in response to SecHy's handling of Ben's claim while also doing nothing to try and reconcile that w/ 831's take on Ben's reaction to being wagoned

I'm tinfoiling a bit, but it stuck out to me and I kinda wanna keep chewing on it.
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none of this is especially convincing to me

[Isis]

I'm not caught up yet but I want S_S not answering about hypoclaiming his own actions to be a vanilla-slip


it probably isn't but i want this game to be easier

[Isis]

the way i phrased it makes it even weaker

[Something_Smart]

Wait why would I hypoclaim my own actions? My slot already claimed...?

[Isis]

omg everyone unvote

[Isis]

i think S_S accidentally townslipped

[Isis]

VOTE: implo

[Something_Smart]

If I townslipped on mechanics I'm gonna be mad.

[Something_Smart]

Can you explain it?