Micro 1000: Names on the List v1.01 [game over!]

[The Bulge]

That's E-2 by my count, I might pop in later tonight to see what's happening and think about throwing down a vote. People keep saying its lylo but I haven't looked into that?

[Not_Mafia]

Bye bye mad hatter

[Datisi]

vote count 3.03

with 8 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 3 ends in (expired on 2021-04-09 17:05:00).

execution

Not_Mafia [3]:

Michael Scott, Mad Hatters Tea Party, Dunnstral

Mad Hatters Tea Party [3]:

Not_Mafia, Rathe, bugspray

not voting [2]:

Ythan, The Bulge

game state

parity:

~ mafia members alive: three (3)
~

doom counter

: one (1)
~ town will be endgamed once they are brought down to:

three (3)

members.

previously published lists:

~ ythan, dunnstral, not_mafia, the bulge, bugspray ~ 3 town, 2 mafia

mod notes

~ 24 hour posting period will be resetting at 6:00pm CET
~ not_mafia has used 6/20 reserve posts.

[Michael Scott]

@Bulge, I don’t think scum!Hatter comes out of the gate today and starts by pushing for an off-list mis-elimination, when they themselves are off the list (e.g. 353, 355, etc.). If Hatter is scum and there is an off-list mis-elimination today, then that just puts them in a difficult 1vs1 tomorrow. Your argument wrt to Hatter’s push on Rathe is that they are taking advantage of the fact that Rathe is new, and that scum!Hatter would be inclined to put themselves off-list with Rathe to setup a 1vs1.

I could see why scum!Hatter might target Rathe specifically for a 1vs1, but I don’t think they would push for that 1vs1 to take place today. The better move, given how much heat Hatter has taken, would be to instead push for an on-list mis-elimination today, and then try to push Rathe as the final mis-elimination. Yes, Hatter did join us on Not_Mafia, but they also have put themselves in a position where it would be difficult for them to back off of their Rathe scumread if Rathe did become wagoned given their stances. If Auro and I started a wagon against Rathe and that wagon gained traction, then scum!Hatter is forced to join that wagon and then deal with the fallout (i.e., a 1vs1 against us) after Rathe flips town. If Hatter is scum, then I think they would want to avoid that scenario.

What I would expect from scum!Hatter with an off-list group of {us, Rathe, Hatter} is to not fully commit to wanting to push either of Rathe or us. They might claim to strongly scumread Rathe, but they would feign some suspicion of our slot to justify wanting to eliminate from the on-list group. The fact that Hatter has taken such a hardline stance on Rathe being scum is part of the reason why I think town!Hatter and scum!Rathe is much more likely than the other way around. I also still don’t buy that town!Rathe thought the scumteam was Hatter/us/Bugspray on day one but hammered Moz anyways because he thought it was pointless to try and push someone that he scumread.

Also, happy (belated) birthday Not_Mafia.

- Date Mike (Volxen)

[Mad Hatters Tea Party]

That's E-2 by my count, I might pop in later tonight to see what's happening and think about throwing down a vote. People keep saying its lylo but I haven't looked into that?

Aye, 8 havin a wee battle, 5 o dem White Queens Pieces, 3 o the Red Queens Pieces. So think hard, an think long. Is no lie ah've struggled 'ere, ah confessed that long afore Bulge's post.

Thing about t'game mechanics 'ere, is they're crucial.

In't pool ye got 50% in rae numbers. Thing is, this no time for the rae numbers.

Michal has caught No Mafia wi a tell they're sold on, ah got 50% in mah pool o being accurate on rae number too. There's no wae Michal dunae go fer me 'ere as scum - so e's town by mah reckonin.

Yoo so keen on meta, goo look ait Animals uPick 2 again, nae you dare tell me, Rathe is playin t'same 'ere n'there

Not o'ny that, none o ye are even followin t'numbers good ol spray bottles given wi ye jumps on me.

Why go all that effort, just tae throw it oot and goo against ye numbers anywae?

[Rathe]

453 is mafia u r doing the same thing with me n mad hatter that u did for mozamis n mad hatter

I also still don’t buy that town!Rathe thought the scumteam was Hatter/us/Bugspray on day one but hammered Moz anyways because he thought it was pointless to try and push someone that he scumread.

this is wrong i already said what I said i am not the type of player to do that i did not say it was pointless
i vote for mafia and that is all
VOTE: Michael Scott

[Rathe]

maybe i am wrong about u mad hatter

[Rathe]

what if not mafia is town mad hatter but u r following michael scott

[Rathe]

u n michael scott cannot be partners but 453 is from mafia
so michael is the mafia on the outside

[Mad Hatters Tea Party]

My boy, from your perspective either myself or Michael is the remaining scum.

We absolutely cannot be partners.

453 follows quite the sensible logic in my opinion.

Now Rathe would you care to add reason behind your vote upon me? I recall it rather lacking in clothing.

[Not_Mafia]

Elim Hatters

[Ythan]

Okay so I've actually continued to have a very busy week but I'm finally off today and will have some time at some point to do something other than just unwind from work ie I need to read the off-list Hatter alternatives and I think I also got asked another question or two at some point.

[bugspray]

VOTE: n_m
Eliminating in the list is just better

[bugspray]

That is e1

[Michael Scott]

453 is mafia u r doing the same thing with me n mad hatter that u did for mozamis n mad hatter

You and Hatter can't both be town fmpov, so I don't know what else you would expect here.

this is wrong i already said what I said i am not the type of player to do that i did not say it was pointless
i vote for mafia and that is all
VOTE: Michael Scott

My point was that I don't think town!you hammers Moz when you thought the scumteam was Hatter/us/Bugspray. You and I have gone back-and-forth on this, but your own posts make it clear that you weren't scumreading Moz. The distinction of "not that type of player" vs "pointless" is not relevant as it doesn't change the underlying point that I'm making about you.


- Date Mike (Volxen)

[Michael Scott]

@Rathe, why didn’t you take issue with my scumread of you prior to 453? I’ve been clear about scumreading you since this day began, and in that post I mainly talked more about why I think Hatter is town. Up until now you seemed to be content with the Hatter wagon, and when you were pushing Hatter as a scumread you didn’t really seem to have any interest in trying to convince Auro and I that you are town and that we should join you in voting for Hatter. I’m not buying that only now you are suspicious of my push on you and that your view of us vs Hatter has completely flipped, because my reason for scumreading you hasn’t changed since this day started.

- Date Mike (Volxen)

[Not_Mafia]

Elim Hatters

VOTE: n_m
Eliminating in the list is just better

It’s not, eliminating off the list gives us conf towns

[bugspray]

VOTE: none wait a minute

[bugspray]

True the set of not in the list is 3 and if we flip a green from it that is a guaranteed red flip and conftown

[bugspray]

VOTE: hat

[bugspray]

My numbers were not as useful as I thought, hmm

[Mad Hatters Tea Party]

My numbers were not as useful as I thought, hmm

Pardon me while I sip my tea, and point out the complexity of the game was something I had pointed out. Thought not quite as bluntly.

[Mad Hatters Tea Party]

Hm, it appears my thoughts were also unsound, as there is no nightkill. I am quite mad though, what is your excuse?

[Rathe]

u backed urself to a corner with 453
u gave a good point about mad hatter not being mafia
i agree cuz it makes sense but
then u had to scumread me
but u r wrong cuz i am not mafia
but i think u know that

[Rathe]

i dont know if notmafia is town n u r trying to kill a innocent
or if notmafia is mafia n u want the townpoints
but i am rly ok with my vote
hatter is town i am town u r mafia