Mini 2204: Fakeclaim Mafia GAME OVER

[Klick]

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boop

[SirCakez]

We have mindmeld on a lot of reads here (other than me obv)
Are you town???

What are you hoping to achieve by asking this?

i was hoping for some sort of agreement lol

Menal why do you so strongly SR Chillin?

I think I already explained this but basically I think that unwnd/pooky being so disengaged is +scum for the slot and the fact that they feel so incredibly null is scum indicative for them in a way that it’s not for, let’s say N_M

Ok I can see this definitely

Vote Count 2.7

Totally Not Korina (6): skitter30, PenguinPower, Puppy, Farkran, Absolutely Chillin, Not_Mafia

With the exception of puppy I think I really like how this wagon developed? But TNK's claim feels towny to me. hmm
What would scum be doing avoiding getting on this wagon? Could be something like puppy/Cakez/Korg ig, with puppy joining the wagon, Cakez pushing elsewhere and Korg flaking so not really being part of the optics

but I joined the wagon pretty soon after this VC?

[Klick]

...no you didn't?

[SirCakez]

oh that's fucking weird I swore I voted TNK but I just re-ISOed myself and apparently I never did

[SirCakez]

i kinda feel like ss is more ~into~ this game upon repping in than he would be as scum if that makes sense

I disagree

this is fine I guess

intent to hammer TNK

right this was the most I ever dropped

[Klick]

Cakez I can't remember for sure but I think you've been town every time I've played with you
You've also been a lot less afraid to be... I guess the word is 'confrontational'? I think the thing that is bothering me rn is that it feels like you're actively avoiding getting into conflict

Is there credit to that? If so, is there a reason you can identify? Or am I seeing something that isn't there?

[Farkran]

Klick why do you think puppy is scum from your pov?

Also would you still maintain your old town core? Would you say menalque (former braveheart) and SS (former omgus) are town?

[Farkran]

One more question @klick

The two wagons (jake and tnk) are quite different and jake flipped town, do you think any of the two is scumdriven? And why?

[Kerset]

Fark i feel disappointed with you. This town has fallen in to apathy and instead of creating some momentum, pressure or wagons... you were just like...

ok i guess we just elim the lurker, such a shame but if you really want the lurker then here goes my vote

[Kerset]

BTW why the heck SS never voted in this game? Was it explained anywhere or you none of you realized it?

[SirCakez]

Cakez I can't remember for sure but I think you've been town every time I've played with you
You've also been a lot less afraid to be... I guess the word is 'confrontational'? I think the thing that is bothering me rn is that it feels like you're actively avoiding getting into conflict

Is there credit to that? If so, is there a reason you can identify? Or am I seeing something that isn't there?

Uh I didn't even notice this.
Nobody has picked a fight with me so idk
OMGUS vanished when I was on his ass
No one is really super duper sticking out to me as scum this game

[Jingle]

Vote Count 2.10

Totally Not Korina (5): skitter30, PenguinPower, Puppy, Farkran, Absolutely Chillin,
SirCakez (2): Something_Smart, Klick,
Something_Smart (1): SirCakez,
Absolutely Chillin (1): Menalque,
Not_Mafia (0):
Menalque (0):
Farkran (0):
Kerset (0):
Klick (0):
skitter30 (0):
PenguinPower (0):
Puppy (0):

Not Voting (3): Kerset, Totally Not Korina, Not_Mafia

The Deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2021-04-28 18:30:00).

[Farkran]

Fark i feel disappointed with you. This town has fallen in to apathy and instead of creating some momentum, pressure or wagons... you were just like...

ok i guess we just elim the lurker, such a shame but if you really want the lurker then here goes my vote

I'm no longer the fark you know, i'm sorry

But i can tell you're town at least

[Klick]

What's Kerset done to get a townread from you?

[Farkran]

I was already townreading the slot for starters

But i have played enough with kerset to tell when he's scum, i'm confident he isn't

[PenguinPower]

Sorry - I'm traveling currently and the internet is spotty. I'll try to be present tonight, but I'm in a car for 6 hours tomorrow and won't be around.

or we could just yeet tnk

[Kerset]

Fark i feel disappointed with you. This town has fallen in to apathy and instead of creating some momentum, pressure or wagons... you were just like...

ok i guess we just elim the lurker, such a shame but if you really want the lurker then here goes my vote

I'm no longer the fark you know, i'm sorry

or you deliberately want town to be in that way and laugh instead of crying in scum PT

[Farkran]

I am waiting for klick to answer my questions

[Klick]

But i have played enough with kerset to tell when he's scum, i'm confident he isn't

I'm more looking for the what, so I can see the read as well. If you have that confidence, surely something in particular is pinging it? I remember you accurately reading Kerset before so I trust it, but I can't remember if you gave reasons in the other game we all three played together either
I somehow missed your questions let me go look at them

[Klick]

Klick why do you think puppy is scum from your pov?

Also would you still maintain your old town core? Would you say menalque (former braveheart) and SS (former omgus) are town?

I'd happily vote puppy and I think they'd have a pretty solid shot at flipping scum, but I couldn't point at anything in particular and tell you 'this makes puppy scum'. It doesn't help that they're posting with a self-imposed PR which makes it difficult to have any idea what kind of player they are.

I've cooled on Firebringer-turned-NM, that slot could really easily be scum here and part of my initial favouring that slot was definitely thinking I'd be able to read Firebringer as the game went on. NM hasn't towntold yet and I'd kinda have expected him to by now.
You/skitter/Penguin all feel strongly town to me.

I don't have strong feelings on either Mena or SS. I find it very difficult to read Mena and they haven't posted anything that I'd say pushes my read of them one way or the other. I'd like to see SS post more before solidifying a read there as well. SS being in games is good for games.

One more question @klick

The two wagons (jake and tnk) are quite different and jake flipped town, do you think any of the two is scumdriven? And why?

This has just made me look back at the old D1 TNK wagon... And it's really really similar to the one from today? Not sure what that indicates. Puppy and Firebringer are standouts from the original wagon there.
But to answer your actual question, I think the back end of Jake's wagon is fairly sus, namely {Cakez, Chillin, Korg}. I wouldn't call the core of the Jake push scum-driven - I'd say the wagon and the TNK wagon on D1 suggests that scum were either lurking or otherwise comfortable with the gamestate and didn't touch it massively with their votes.
That'd be backed up by the fact that everyone seems apparently fine with picking 'the other option' from D1 without much of a viable counter vote. I heavily doubt TNK flips scum here, as it seems like scum would be putting in a token effort to save them. Unless you're trying to do that with the push on me, but that doesn't feel like the solve at all

[skitter30]

puppy is surprised this game has pages like this. puppy hates this immortal form.

when you make posts like this i don't understand what you're saying
like what does this even mean >.>

i really, really, really hate it when people post with some sort of gimmick that makes them harder to understand

[skitter30]

still understands stance on not want posting much in this game. puppy gets it, but also thinks that coldpuppies are town independently of emotion sensing.

or like also this one

[skitter30]

It’s mildly concerning that I almost feel like skitt is playing around me rather than vice versa

oh this is a take
i'd love to hear more abt this one

[skitter30]

Klick is also scummy for evaporating and for not being obvtown which I feel like he normally is

he's also said multiple times that he's been busy irl recently, so i think it's utterly nai and when he was here earlier i liked him

[Something_Smart]

i really, really, really hate it when people post with some sort of gimmick that makes them harder to understand

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