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Post Post #3250 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 2:38 pm

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In post 3175, Thestatusquo wrote:VoteCount 1.52 FINAL
NorwegianboyEE [ 13 ] shiro, raya36, nero cain, save the dragons, anya, firebringer, ivyeo, MURDERCAT, flow trap, kazyan, chara, unwnd, titus
Murdercat [ 7 ] farkran, pooky, sircakez, brave heart lion, kdowns, norwegianboyEE, andante
Titus [ 2 ] toadette, flea the magician
anya [ 1 ] dwlee99

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im on the working assumption murdercaat was heavily scumdriven and has at least 2 scum on it that isn't norwee.
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Post Post #3251 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 2:38 pm

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That's some good work Raya, I like it. Dunno if I agree about Cakez, but I like the work as it gives a good place to start from.

murderkitty, I'm made of sleepy and while I read all the things that you quoted, I'm gonna need you to explain to me like I'm 5 *why* those quotes lead you to your conclusion list please?

p-edit: oh more quotes, will read after but i imagine sleepy brain will nope on processing it all.
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Post Post #3252 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 2:38 pm

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my guess would be bravae heart, kdowns, farkran for 2 scum in it.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #3253 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 2:39 pm

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I'm about 75% certain Cakez flips redscum here.
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Post Post #3254 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 2:39 pm

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In post 3246, MURDERCAT wrote:Based on those quotes I am very nervous about Kaz, think cake is at least not aligned with mafia, think Dragons is not aligned with mafia, think Andante is not aligned with mafia, think Titus could be mafia aligned, think Shiro is not aligned with mafia, and I'm worried about flow trap.
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Post Post #3255 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 2:39 pm

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If we're doing NKA Nero kill points to Andante
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Post Post #3256 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 2:39 pm

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In post 3246, MURDERCAT wrote:Based on those quotes I am very nervous about Kaz, think cake is at least not aligned with mafia, think Dragons is not aligned with mafia, think Andante is not aligned with mafia, think Titus could be mafia aligned, think Shiro is not aligned with mafia, and I'm worried about flow trap.
I found from the vote counts that kaz joined the norway wagon while other wagons had traction still (same for flow too)
Why don't you think cakez is with norway again?

We agree with the rest
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Post Post #3257 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 2:40 pm

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In post 3255, SirCakez wrote:If we're doing NKA Nero kill points to Andante
everything i read from andante screams town to me.
i think nero is a kill alot of players here would make he is a loud player.
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Post Post #3258 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 2:41 pm

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In post 3249, Chara wrote:
In post 3243, Raya36 wrote:I looked over interactions last night and came up with this. Someone let me know what they think
Gonna vote here VOTE: Cakez

Spoiler: stuff
Norway asked Shiro to start an early alliance so probably not partners
Wanted Andante killed in a non-distancy way so probably not partners
Was against beeboy wagon
Asked Farkran why he was town to them. Was trying to get farkran to help the view of his slot. Would've just told his partner in the pt to do it without prompt
Defended Anya (maybe partners?)
Defended Dwlee (maybe partners?)
Flow called his vote the worst on the wagon so probably not partners

From vote counts:
Beeboy probably a cat driven counter wagon (firebringer + flow trap + MC + Anya + BHL + cakez)
MC probably a cat driven counter wagon (STD + farkran + andante + pooky + toadette + firebringer + kazy + cakez + BHL + kdowns + ivy + andante)
Don't think firebringer got enough traction to be scum driven

Those who early voted norway: (Shiro)
Those who joined when other wagons had traction: (flow, kazy, STD, anya, firebringer, ivy, MC)

Unlikely to be partners: (Kazyan, Save the Dragons, Murdercat, Andante, shiro, flow trap, Farkran, anya, Ivyeo, firebringer, xofelf)
Partnernull: (pookythemagicalbear, Titus, Flea the magician, kdowns, Brave Heart Lion, Chara, toadette)
Good chance of being partners: (Dwlee99, sircakez)

Those left to sort not just based on VC:
pookythemagicalbear - only 2 mentions of norway and they both could have been from a partner, was also on both counter wagons
Dwlee99 - defended norway early on, said norway caught for the wrong reasons, called his defensiveness playstyle, was against norway elim, maybe defended too strong to be partners?
Titus - called norway scum by vca, was too jumpy with her norway vote to be partners I think but I'm not sure
Flea the magician - Barely any mention except 1 vote
sircakez - Defended Norway a bunch, was against norway elim, was on both counter wagons
kdowns - No mention of Norway
Brave Heart Lion - called Norway scum early on, switched to leantown. Didn't really feel like distancing
Chara - Seemed kind of indifferent about norway. Said Titus elim was preference but still ok with norway.
xofelf - Had unsure but negative things about Norway in their analysis, had norway as scummiest
toadette - Not much for mentions of Norway
thanks for doing this analysis. please step out of my suspect list for now. *opens up velvet rope and gestures*

i don't think either of Norwee's defenders (Cakes and Dwlee) are scum though.

i agree about Andante and Shiro not being partners with your reasons, and Shiro in particular looked like a real interaction that makes no sense to fake, but i wouldn't remove Fark on that basis as Fark is very aware of partner tells.
Yeah maybe I was a little too surface level with putting defenders = partners but cakez being on both counter wagons is a little suspicious on top of that.

I was unaware of that about Fark. Good to know
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Post Post #3259 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 2:41 pm

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hell i probably would have killed nero
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Post Post #3260 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 2:43 pm

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In post 3251, xofelf wrote:That's some good work Raya, I like it. Dunno if I agree about Cakez, but I like the work as it gives a good place to start from.
Thanks, felt like I at least owed something after playing the catchup game all of day 1 and then the night being over the weekend when I could actually have been here
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Post Post #3261 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 2:43 pm

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In post 3255, SirCakez wrote:If we're doing NKA Nero kill points to Andante
Why is that? Andante for other reasons feels very town to me right now
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Post Post #3262 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 2:44 pm

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Spoiler: Kaz votes with VCs
In post 2322, Thestatusquo wrote:
VoteCount 1.34

Titus [8]
pooky, firebringer, flow trap, MURDERCAT, anya, Brave Heart Lion, unwnd, sircakez
NorwegianboyEE [8]
shiro, flea the magician, toadette, save the dragons, raya36, Ivyeo, andante, titus
Andante [2]
Nero Cain, kdowns
shiro [1]
norwegianboyEE
anya [1]
dwlee99
raya36 [1]
chara
Murdercat [1]
farkran
pookythemagicalbear [1]
kazyan

Not Voting [ 1 ]

xofelf

With 24 alive it takes 13 votes to be executed.


Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2021-05-17 20:33:31)
In post 2399, Kazyan wrote:Closing the tab did not help and it looks like if I step away for an hour, I will come back to another 10 pages jfc

I think Andante might be genuine here; if she were scum fighting this hard to save Titus and then Titus flipped red, Andante would get yeeted on Day 2 or maybe vigged during the night. That would be too risky of a play, I think

Titus and Andante are either in two different scum teams, or are both town.

VOTE: NBEE
In post 2434, Thestatusquo wrote:
VoteCount 1.35

NorwegianboyEE [8]
shiro, flea the magician, toadette, save the dragons, raya36, Ivyeo, titus, kazyan
Titus [6]
pooky, firebringer, MURDERCAT, anya, Brave Heart Lion, unwnd
shiro [2]
sircakez, farkran
Andante [2]
Nero Cain, kdowns
anya [1]
dwlee99
raya36 [1]
chara
Kazyan [1]
andante
flow trap [1]
norwegianboyEE
Dwlee99 [1]
flow trap

Not Voting [ 1 ]

xofelf

With 24 alive it takes 13 votes to be executed.


Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2021-05-17 20:33:31)
In post 2492, Thestatusquo wrote:
VoteCount 1.36

NorwegianboyEE [8]
shiro, flea the magician, toadette, save the dragons, raya36, Ivyeo, kazyan, nero cain
Titus [6]
pooky, firebringer, MURDERCAT, anya, Brave Heart Lion, unwnd
shiro [2]
sircakez, farkran
anya [2]
dwlee99, titus
raya36 [1]
chara
Kazyan [1]
andante
flow trap [1]
norwegianboyEE
Dwlee99 [1]
flow trap
pookythemagicalbear [1]
kdowns

Not Voting [ 1 ]

xofelf

With 24 alive it takes 13 votes to be executed.


Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2021-05-17 20:33:31)
In post 2525, Thestatusquo wrote:
VoteCount 1.37

NorwegianboyEE [6]
shiro, flea the magician, raya36, Ivyeo, kazyan, nero cain
Murdercat [6]
Save the dragons, farkran, andante, pooky, toadette, unwnd
Titus [4]
firebringer, MURDERCAT, anya, Brave Heart Lion
anya [2]
dwlee99, titus
shiro [1]
sircakez
raya36 [1]
chara
flow trap [1]
norwegianboyEE
Dwlee99 [1]
flow trap
pookythemagicalbear [1]
kdowns

Not Voting [ 1 ]

xofelf

With 24 alive it takes 13 votes to be executed.


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In post 2531, Kazyan wrote:VOTE: Anya to make this sporting
In post 2532, unwnd wrote:
In post 2531, Kazyan wrote:VOTE: Anya to make this sporting
Kaz help end the day not divide it
In post 2533, Kazyan wrote:Fiiiiine

VOTE: Murdercat
In post 2550, Thestatusquo wrote:
VoteCount 1.38

Murdercat [9]
Save the dragons, farkran, andante, pooky, toadette, unwnd, firebringer, kazyan, sircakez
NorwegianboyEE [5]
shiro, flea the magician, raya36, Ivyeo, nero cain
Titus [3]
MURDERCAT, anya, Brave Heart Lion
anya [2]
dwlee99, titus
raya36 [1]
chara
flow trap [1]
norwegianboyEE
Dwlee99 [1]
flow trap
pookythemagicalbear [1]
kdowns

Not Voting [ 1 ]

xofelf

With 24 alive it takes 13 votes to be executed.


Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2021-05-17 20:33:31)
In post 2820, Thestatusquo wrote:
VoteCount 1.41

Murdercat [ 9 ]
farkran, pooky, firebringer, kazyan, sircakez, brave heart lion, kdowns, unwnd, ivyeo
Titus [ 4 ]
anya, toadette, flow trap, flea the magician
firebringer [ 4 ]
andante, titus, save the dragons, MURDERCAT
NorwegianboyEE [ 3 ]
shiro, raya36, nero cain
anya [ 1 ]
dwlee99
raya36 [ 1 ]
chara
flow trap [ 1 ]
norwegianboyEE

Not Voting [ 1 ]

xofelf

With 24 alive it takes 13 votes to be executed.


Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2021-05-17 20:33:31)
In post 2875, Thestatusquo wrote:
VoteCount 1.43

Murdercat [ 8 ]
farkran, pooky, firebringer, sircakez, brave heart lion, kdowns, unwnd, ivyeo
firebringer [ 4 ]
andante, titus, save the dragons, MURDERCAT
NorwegianboyEE [ 4 ]
shiro, raya36, nero cain, flow trap
Titus [ 3 ]
anya, toadette, flea the magician
anya [ 2 ]
dwlee99, kazyan,
raya36 [ 1 ]
chara
flow trap [ 1 ]
norwegianboyEE

Not Voting [ 1 ]

xofelf

With 24 alive it takes 13 votes to be executed.


Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2021-05-17 20:33:31)
In post 2892, Kazyan wrote:VOTE: NBEE
In post 2950, Thestatusquo wrote:
VoteCount 1.46

Murdercat [ 10 ]
farkran, pooky, firebringer, sircakez, brave heart lion, kdowns, ivyeo, norwegianboyEE, kazyan, flow trap
NorwegianboyEE [ 4 ]
shiro, raya36, nero cain, save the dragons
Titus [ 4 ]
anya, toadette, flea the magician, unwnd
firebringer [ 2 ]
andante, titus
anya [ 1 ]
dwlee99
raya36 [ 1 ]
chara

Not Voting [ 2 ]

xofelf, murdercat

With 24 alive it takes 13 votes to be executed.


Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2021-05-17 20:33:31)
In post 3112, Thestatusquo wrote:
VoteCount 1.50

Murdercat [ 10 ]
farkran, pooky, sircakez, brave heart lion, kdowns, norwegianboyEE, kazyan, flow trap, unwnd, andante
NorwegianboyEE [ 8 ]
shiro, raya36, nero cain, save the dragons, anya, firebringer, ivyeo, MURDERCAT
Titus [ 2 ]
toadette, flea the magician
firebringer [ 1 ]
titus
anya [ 1 ]
dwlee99
raya36 [ 1 ]
chara

Not Voting [ 1 ]

xofelf

With 24 alive it takes 13 votes to be executed.


Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2021-05-17 20:33:31)
In post 3145, Kazyan wrote:
In post 3120, Save The Dragons wrote:kazyan you've voted norway before, why is murdercat a better option?
Oh, it's definitely not. NBEE is tied for the leading wagon now, so now I won't get chewed out for lack of commitment! VOTE: NBEE
In post 3129, unwnd wrote:What's norwee at? I will absolutely Not_Mafia style hammer

Also if Norwee is scum Fark is scum with him, sentiment still applies!
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VoteCount 2.2

sircakez [ 2 ]
titus, raya36
Titus [ 1 ]
sircakez

Not Voting [ 18 ]

pookythemagicalbear, Dwlee99, Kazyan, Save the Dragons, Murdercat, Flea the magician, Andante, kdowns, shiro, flow trap, Farkran, anya, Brave Heart Lion, Chara, Ivyeo, xofelf, toadette, firebringer

With 21 alive it takes 11 votes to be executed.


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Post Post #3264 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 2:45 pm

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In post 3251, xofelf wrote:murderkitty, I'm made of sleepy and while I read all the things that you quoted, I'm gonna need you to explain to me like I'm 5 *why* those quotes lead you to your conclusion list please?
Ok I can write stuff up later about it
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Post Post #3265 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 2:45 pm

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Raya: my opinion on Cakes does have to do with finding him very town by play. same with Dwlee actually.
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"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
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Post Post #3266 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 2:46 pm

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lets keep this gamea spicy

VOTE: Farkran

duel me farkran lets see if ur charm can defeat my dog bite
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #3267 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 2:46 pm

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In post 3254, Chara wrote:do you think it's singleball, or did you mean "aligned with Norwee"?
Aligned with norwee, where dogs are werewolves

(so still believe it is multiball)
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Post Post #3268 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 2:47 pm

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I'll be here later after I finish and submit my last homework of the semester. Gonna try to look at vote counts with nero + unwnd colored green once I'm back.
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #3269 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 2:47 pm

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In post 3261, Raya36 wrote:
In post 3255, SirCakez wrote:If we're doing NKA Nero kill points to Andante
Why is that? Andante for other reasons feels very town to me right now
can you talk about this? i know why Fire TRs Andante but i'm having a hard time with the read.

in hindsight the Shiro read from her feels very "oh i need to do some actual hunting, let me give One Read that i can back up".
i'd dearly like to go over Andante's ISO and confirm this feeling but i do love myself. maybe later.
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Post Post #3270 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 2:48 pm

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chara u should just listen to me
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #3271 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 2:48 pm

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In post 3256, Raya36 wrote:Why don't you think cakez is with norway again?
I think is a pocket attempt, not a partner
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Post Post #3272 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 2:49 pm

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In post 3270, Firebringer wrote:chara u should just listen to me
i'm sorry Fire. maybe you can listen to
me
. :>

if it helps i find your Farkran vote spicy and fun.
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"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
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Post Post #3273 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 2:50 pm

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In post 3272, Chara wrote:
In post 3270, Firebringer wrote:chara u should just listen to me
i'm sorry Fire. maybe you can listen to
me
. :>

if it helps i find your Farkran vote spicy and fun.
i was installed as leader to lead not to listen.

ty. what should i listen to u about
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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #3274 (ISO) » Sun May 16, 2021 2:50 pm

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Kaz votes don't stick out to me as super aligned with norwee scum, so gunna look at flow trap
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