Open 815: Forest Fire Redux [Endgame]
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I thought it was too easy to find his frustrated tone towny, knowing he can certainly do that as scum. I think it might be in line for town!Ydrasse to think frustration=towny though-
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In post 831, Infinity 324 wrote:
Oh I just ISO'd ydrasse and I agreeIn post 830, Prism wrote:skirting around the inactive slot all day is ?_?In post 832, Ydrasse wrote:If you wanna vote me i'll be an afk stump probably for a few daysIn post 833, Ydrasse wrote:My gospel will be to kill infinityIn post 834, Infinity 324 wrote:Ydrasse where are you getting the idea that you can read me
The spitefulness here seemed kinda townyIn post 835, Ydrasse wrote:
OpenwolfIn post 834, Infinity 324 wrote:Ydrasse where are you getting the idea that you can read me-
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This is probably the scummiest post from her this game thoughIn post 811, Ydrasse wrote:When i was skimming earlier human felt town to me or maybe the frustration did because i don't have a better reason to really say the posts were towny, but that's a vibe i feel is too broad recently but idk, like them fighting off being elimmed or whatever and then luke replied and i was like "really feels like they're someone in a shitty situation"
I feel like I walked back the vote on child too early but after that list it wasn't feeling good but when they posted a bit more it became a tiny bit like "I could see it"
monkey would be in a shitty situation town or scum
the child read is also just weirdly worded and doesn't say much-
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I'm ready for the journey, whether it takes 200 posts or 1500 with me posting papyrus lines of inspiration and you watching another round of CatsIn post 905, Prism wrote:If you are town I hope you know that one of us is so wrong that it hurts and one of us is going to have to drag the other kicking and screaming to the finish line of voting scum and dear god I hope it's you-
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I'm don't know if it's AI for her to ignore themIn post 903, Prism wrote:Do you expect her to stick her head in the sand and pretend those posts of mine never existed?-
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So I finished reading the Fidget slot. She's not hardtown at all but I don't want to vote there.
I don't disagree with her leaving options open. Things like this statement are also very in line with her fears for her scumgame:In post 840, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Fidget's reads in #484 and #485 gives a lot of leeway on herself to flip her reads on some slots. Like she'd call a slot town, and then give a scenario that they're scum. It just doesn't seem like an actual stance to me.
Fidget is very concerned about painting herself into a corner and about keeping her reads consistent over time.In post 620, Fidget wrote:[On Ydrasse] That is going to be tricky to explain if I keep thinking that in the future. It makes sense in my head.
I think her reaction to me/Hectic is actually pretty in line with what she's seen of both of us, which is limited faith that we're not doing that song/dance for no reason. I definitely see her trusting Hectic's read a bit more assuming we were both town given her described experience in Chara's Folly, which was the time I tunneled Hectic for a day and a half while Hectic found scum using a similar read to the one here, as she explained.
Her tonal difference really throws me, along with the fact that she's less willing to really go to bat, but I find it being early plausible. I hope she doesn't get replaced but either way I don't want the slot flipped today.-
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On average that does make it a scumtell - 50% odds are much better than 23%In post 767, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Prism, the fact that you said you found a 2/2 split on me promising that I'm town and only quoted a scum seems to me that you're trying real hard to make that into a scumtell when it's NAI at worst
I don't like the shade thrown here regardless though, Prism made the stats clear anyway so it's not manipulating the facts-
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Like I simultaneously think they would be the most dangerous scum players to ignore atm, and I also think that they would do the best job of solving from the ic if they are town.In post 912, Lukewarm wrote:I have no idea who the scum team is, but I think I would like to flip either hectic or prism, because I am worried about both of those slots, and I think that it would do a lot of good (for me at least) to know that I can trust one of them.-
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I also think that looking at the instances in context it is likely to a major scumtell. Small sample size is the only thing leaving this in doubt for me; go through and look at them yourself.
Promises for content tend to be NAI, but the similar promises as town were about being masons (true) and specifically that he was trying to protect a PR (true). In both cases he was more concerned with mechanics than proving himself town, as opposed to the others as scum where he was trying to force towntells through.-
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It uhhhh looks like you have something more important to do which is fair, I wanted to ask this after I had time to completely reevaluate your argument and contextualize it but I'll skip ahead so you can answerIn post 914, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Hey I think I totally won't be able to join you guys tonight, but I'll just catch up later stumped or not. I have to prioritize something Just tell me where to vote.
It is very difficult for me to wrap my head around why I am so hardtown to you, or why you trust me to pick correctly so much given that I have openly tunneled you all day. The first is more important than the second. I understand you believed me/Infinity to be aligned, and eventually ruled out SvS, but I'm skeptical of the reasoning for why I couldn't be scum and her town. It was her evolution that was really pivotal and town-indicative imo, as scum it's easy for me to just sit there and harass her hoping she submits.
Everything about my yesterday with you was engineered to drive you to perform well and give better content even if only to spite me for saying you couldn't, so seeing youwantme to be town as opposed to wanting me to be scum was also very surprising to me.-
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I did not, as it didn't show up in my search results. Ctrl+F searching for "promise" yields 0 and "town" yields 105 results so do you mind linking the post where you said similar?In post 916, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Prism are you counting nightless vanilla where I also promised that I'm town-
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I shared this concern with Child, which is why I pushed so much for breadth. I think the explanation in 317 is very plausible from someone with their described experience. I think the reads wall they gave was quite strong looking back at it now, both in context with what was posted at the time (see previous agreement with Infinity's reads) and with their description of my blowup with Infinity that was affirmed later. I don't see any glaringly obvious issues with the responses to the questions posed by yourself and Fidget, even if longwinded. I found 676 pretty town, and while there is some scum incentive to unvote in 716 there also...isn't much to gain, either. It's null at worst IMO.In post 888, Hectic wrote:Fairy Child was very comprehensive and thorough in their responses to both Prism and I, but I find it scum-indicative to have that kind WIM to defend yourself but not put nearly as much effort into discussing other things that doesn't involve defending themselves (earlier in the game)
It's a more defensive mindset which can come from town but also comes from scum a whole lot of the time-
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can you directly quote/link the posts you townread from HEM, no further commentary required unless you want toIn post 919, Ydrasse wrote:i'm around in the most loose sense of the word.-
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