Open 816: C9++ || Game Over

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DAY TWO

VOTECOUNT 2.3

[4] SirCakez:

Datisi, Dwlee99, Umlaut, Infinity 324

[1] Gamma Emerald:

SirCakez

[1] Datisi:

Gamma Emerald

[4] Not Voting:

xHeavenx, PenguinPower, PookyTheMagicalBear, Tigerente

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to eliminate.

The deadline is in (expired on 2021-06-20 14:16:00).

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[SirCakez]

dwlee what's your cakez experience to the point you feel you can make this BoP argument

also just didn't expect that kind of thing from you considering how ardently anti-meta you were earlier in the game

-b

I played with him years and years ago and we generally were decent at figuring out when we were town. Okay, actually, cakez would just always think I was town when he was town from what I remember. I don't really consider BoP the same thing as meta, it's just kind of like cakez please be better at playing this game and figuring it out (which kind of exists for everyone), and I think that town!cakez would have a smaller PoE but he has to include me because otherwise there aren't enough miselims for him to win.

This changed because [redacted]

[Dwlee99]

Mmm that's fair
UNVOTE:
Okay maybe you're not evil but find the other scum to prove it.

[Dwlee99]

Actually hm you could be evil anyway and just do this otherwise but I also feel like you haven't provided any actual reasons to scumread me. Like okay paranoid sure maybe but why do you actually think I'm evil.

[Umlaut]

im fine with a cakez flip here but I want to see conditional choices from vig/blockers so we have an idea of what to do tomm plz

My intent right now is to unconditionally block you and I won't deviate from that plan without explicitly saying so in advance.

I could maybe be talked into choosing differently conditional on Cakez flipping Mafia specifically, but even then I don't think you're a

bad

choice by any means.

[Tigerente]

i'm going to try to eliminate some potential candidates. I think I've warmed up enough to penguin on this gameday that i'd like to leave him alone, for starters.

-b

[Tigerente]

Infinity I'm going to go through your meta stuff on gamma but like 83 -> 89 -> 287 -> 355 seems completely plausible as the third red here

-b

[Tigerente]

honestly don't see why heaven can't be red either. Distancing from a50 most of the day and I think the kerset hammer makes a ton of sense as S-S. That's not the only way it could've gone down, but I'm trying to rule out potential reds here and I'm not inclined to rule this one out

-b

[Tigerente]

dwlee just i really don't think is mafia. possible SK but lower equity here for a shot and i'd be inclined to shoot elsewhere.

-b

[Tigerente]

datisi i just think is town

-b

[Tigerente]

(kinda wondering why pooky doesn't at this point tho)

-b

[Tigerente]

Question for the monkey: Who's mafia in the case of a 2 mafia team?

Although I generally assume 3-members team until proven otherwise, but "gun-to-my-head" I'd say Kerset for the sneaking in, followed by Heaven for hopping on after you backed off. I mean, you'd still get the blame for it if I was to flip today, so -from a 2-members team of Kerset/Heaven- it's still a good push.

eh man that'd take some stones though to make this post in a heaven-mafia world

-b

[Tigerente]

Q: Am I allowed to live in my own world under my own dome for a few seconds?? Cuz if I was I'd bet the game on the Mafia being of 3 members, and my solve would be precisely Gamma/Kerset/Heaven

Gamma comes in pushing a very "strange" meta-driven case on me (forgive me for calling it a case), and Kerset hops on it. Gamma backs off, Kerset falls back into the shadows, and Heaven takes on the spearhead position with yet another inexplicable "case".

My point is SCUM!GAMMA would be afraid of me. He tries to push me in hopes I'd react in a way that could be taken advantage of. Kerset sneaks in to aid him (knowing the reason behind this behaviour from their PT), but since I didn't react in a way that would justify Gamma's push on me he walks it back, but still wants me out so Heaven now can lead the campaign under the guise they don't know me (or anyone else) so cannot be blamed for taking this stance.

Well, I've got news for you: I ain't going down today, so lay off and try another approach.

Now I can go out of my dome and realize the whole world doesn't actually revolve around me, but not before I posted this to refer to in post-game.

i don't think a50 lists more than one scum in this gamma/kerset/heaven group, and we know that kerset is scum
and given that a50 is electing to push gamma out of the three of them i think it's +town/not-group-scum for gamma

i kinda think cakez is the last groupscum tbh

~ skitteR

[Tigerente]

Q: Am I allowed to live in my own world under my own dome for a few seconds?? Cuz if I was I'd bet the game on the Mafia being of 3 members, and my solve would be precisely Gamma/Kerset/Heaven

yeah i mean this gets to the question: does a50 have that double-bus energy going on? i don't know him basically at all

-b

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

(kinda wondering why pooky doesn't at this point tho)

-b

enh you're probably just right but I'm dumb >.>

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

when the town is stomping so bad the mod has to intervene (no shade mena love u)

like when he types something like this, my psychic link thinks he's really crying inside because he's utterly screwed(hello SK Datisi)

[Tigerente]

pooky >:(

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

hey you know if you think i'm scum it means im town!

[Tigerente]

why do u think a50 got shot

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't want to discuss optimal SK shot selection as it would possibly be used to coordinate kills between the SK and the Mafia.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm just pretty sure I never make that shot cuz A50 is my boi

[Tigerente]

ok but it happened already and i think we're gonna flip the last groupscum today so i want to talk about this
not sure how or why last night's kills would inform what's gonna happen tonight

pedit ok let's say i accept that ... who *does* make that kill tho

[Tigerente]

hey you know if you think i'm scum it means im town!

(i lowkey think you're sk ...)

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I would never kill A50 or Lilith on Night 1.

also I made this cool chart that you can save and use to read me in the future.

[Tigerente]

that middle universe tho >.>

idk did you think a50 was town eod?