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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:02 am

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its not really a shitpush cuz im not trying to vote you off the island
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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:04 am

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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:09 am

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In post 118, skitter30 wrote:And i get why scum would undermune townreads in general but why would i start the game doing so *on you*?
like ok uhhh this actually bothers me more than i initially thought. like this feels like some sorta bad-faith question, because the answer is obvious - i was one of the only people that posted so far, and arguably had the weirdest entrance.

but like, this is bothering me because it's implying that scum!skitter would need to have a ~super special reason~ to push exactly me, and i feel like it's also trying to undermine any read on me by implying that i'm wrong for implying that scum!skitter would have to have a ~super special reason~ to push exactly me when like, i never did that, i just said it generally

idk if i'm getting across what i'm thinking, but i feel like it's implying that i said there's a much bigger level of "planned push" into skitter's og scumlean on me, and then debunking that "planned push", when that was not something i ever actually said. i found her og scumlean "weird" first, and then i thought of "they give a vibe of not wanting me to get townread", but i didn't imply that was her Original Plan when scumleaning me

jesus fuck this is a word salad that is not getting out correctly
does anyone understand what i'm trying to say
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:10 am

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In post 97, T3 wrote:Ich, why specifically is skitter town? This will help me determine who you should pair with.
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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:10 am

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In post 124, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:if im wrong u and ich can live happily ever after in solved land
but if you're half right, then scum just got halfway there to their wincon?
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:12 am

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In post 129, Datisi wrote:
In post 124, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:if im wrong u and ich can live happily ever after in solved land
but if you're half right, then scum just got halfway there to their wincon?

that's the worst case scenario.

from my experience playing scum in the last version of this game, scum basically want to wait for a townie to trust them.

By pushing for 2 people to trust each other, you can hit the "jackpot" so to speak and if you miss twice it's not really a big deal.

but waiting for people to decide who they trust individually is worse because you can't hit the "jackpot" s/s pairing and scumbags can usually get one townie to trust them
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:13 am

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I just reread the thread.

POOKY AND PENGUINPOWER ARE BOTH ALMOST 100% TOWN AND SHOULD TRUST EACH OTHER
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:15 am

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Please trust me on this one. Pooky is independently gutvibes towny and Penguin is null other than the specific thing I noticed.
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:16 am

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i mean thats just a given t3

the only reason we don't trust each other immediately is cuz we want to make an impact on the game and we enjoy each other's company.

It has nothing to do with our obsessive addiction to pagetops
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:16 am

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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:18 am

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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:19 am

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In post 130, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:By pushing for 2 people to trust each other, you can hit the "jackpot" so to speak and if you miss twice it's not really a big deal.
what do you mean by "if you miss twice"?

also like. hitting the s/s pairing at first is incredibly difficult (and uhh, this ain't it chief) and like, if you're forcing the scummy people to pair, odds are (assuming your reads are above rand) you're gonna pair a t/s pair and screw the game up.

like maybe i'm tired, i get the "waiting for someone to trust them" is a scum strategy but i don't get how this is supposed to like, combat that

also while you're here, can you explain why you find me scummy? you stuck to that read from the beginning and at first i thought it was a joke, but if it's not i wanna hear it
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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:20 am

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Also, SS and obvious DkKoba alt Ich Troje should never be a pair.
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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:21 am

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In post 137, T3 wrote:Pairs:
Pooky and PenguinPower
Also, SS and obvious DkKoba alt Ich Troje should never be a pair.
why are these a thing
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:22 am

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Me and Datisi sould never bea pair and to a lesser extent me and skitter.
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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:22 am

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In post 109, Datisi wrote:arguing mech / semantics / setup strategy is a thing scum often does because it's posting and presence but it's actively stopping game progress.
How often does this tell actually work?
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:23 am

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In post 140, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 109, Datisi wrote:arguing mech / semantics / setup strategy is a thing scum often does because it's posting and presence but it's actively stopping game progress.
How often does this tell actually work?
it caught me as scum once
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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:23 am

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In post 138, Datisi wrote:
In post 137, T3 wrote:Pairs:
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Also, SS and obvious DkKoba alt Ich Troje should never be a pair.
why are these a thing
The tell.
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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:24 am

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what tell
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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:26 am

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I'VE FIGURED THIS OUT.

TRUST: Something_Smart
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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:27 am

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inb4 scumflip
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:29 am

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What.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:29 am

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I don't know what I expected out of this game but it was not to become conftown on page 6.
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:30 am

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The tell. I'll say it in twilight but SS is very very very town to me.
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:30 am

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Haven't finished reading yet but agree with consensus that Skitter is town.
In post 41, T3 wrote:Datisi uses lowercase letters when he's scum.
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