Open 819 | The Mindmeld Theory | Postgame

[skitter30]

If ss is scum with town-t3 he takes the trust, no reason not to
If he's scum with t3 he cant, so there was a lingering question of if ss/t3 was possible

But in that universe he would take thr trust with you

But he didnt

So that effectively means he's either scum with both of u (impossible), scum who isnt taking the trust (and thus damaging his own wincon), or just town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

no if SS is scum and T3 is town, SS would want to take the trust of someone other than T3 and make T3 stuck here forever

[Datisi]

i keep trying to make a post how scum!s_s with partner!t3 probably doesn't take the trust of the first townie to offer it to him since of he did that and flipped scum, no way we ever let t3 pair with anyone

but the damn forum keeps logging me out

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oh I see ums trusted him too

hmm do you want SS to leave with Umlaut or someone else?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

man i kinda want ss/ums to flip now just to see if SS is red now haha

[Datisi]

i still think s_s is town regardless though

i'm prooobably fine with the s_s/umlaut dance pair

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

everyone wants to dance with SS

[Umlaut]

If ss is scum with town-t3 he takes the trust, no reason not to
If he's scum with t3 he cant, so there was a lingering question of if ss/t3 was possible

But in that universe he would take thr trust with you

But he didnt

So that effectively means he's either scum with both of u (impossible), scum who isnt taking the trust (and thus damaging his own wincon), or just town

As I said and Datisi also said, in the universe with the {S_S, T3} scumteam it would basically be throwing for him to instantly trust me back because it all but confirms T3 is scum; even if we weren't sure no one would ever pair with him.

[Datisi]

also while i was on a walk i kind of started talking myself into scum!skitt again

@skitt, you called me out in mbos for "(?)" but you didn't call me out in c9++ for drilling the ic slot about their reads on me. ik you were town both times, but could you tell me what's the difference between the two, and why this game makes you think of me from mbos?

[Umlaut]

Downgrading my townread on Skitter for this actually, she seems to be lacking in normal town paranoia

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oh shit this game is getting spicy

[skitter30]

As I said and Datisi also said, in the universe with the {S_S, T3} scumteam it would basically be throwing for him to instantly trust me back because it all but confirms T3 is scum; even if we weren't sure no one would ever pair with him.

Goos point i didnt think of that

[skitter30]

also while i was on a walk i kind of started talking myself into scum!skitt again

@skitt, you called me out in mbos for "(?)" but you didn't call me out in c9++ for drilling the ic slot about their reads on me. ik you were town both times, but could you tell me what's the difference between the two, and why this game makes you think of me from mbos?

Uh mostly because i dont remember offhand how you were treating the ic slot in that game
And i have a recent example lf scum-you doing it to me like last week

Would like to hear more abt why u think i'm scum again

[PenguinPower]

As I said and Datisi also said, in the universe with the {S_S, T3} scumteam it would basically be throwing for him to instantly trust me back because it all but confirms T3 is scum; even if we weren't sure no one would ever pair with him.

Eh - I don't think temporal proximity even matters at this point. If s_s flips scum, T3 is never being trusted. Simple as that.

[Datisi]

Would like to hear more abt why u think i'm scum again

i keep going back and forth between "skitter really should know better here" and "the explanation she gives for her read is Fine". i still have a lingering feeling that this is a setup, because i genuinely think that stuff like "datisi asked about the reads on him" or "datisi isn't calling t3 scum" shouldn't be like, things that actually make you think i'm scum (in a vacuum, they feel more like funney nai things than anything else), but when i go over it and reread, your explanations seem Plausible Enough and it's annoying

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why should skitter know better?

[PenguinPower]

I'm not sure there is anything to know better about.

[PenguinPower]

That reads funny but I'm sticking with it.

[skitter30]

I mean do u think i ought to be townreading u?
Otherwise not sure why u think i should know better

@dats

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

FROZEN SCUM

[Datisi]

? i was playing a game

skitter should know better because... she's skitter? and has played with me enough and the reasons why she calls me scum are making me hmm

like i don't necessarily think you should be townreading me here (i'm always obvtown to myself so cannot give an accurate assessment there) but i don't think you should have a scumread on me for what you have and i'm trying to parse if it makes enough sense for town!you to have it and i feel like my opinion about it changes every time i look at this game

why are you turning the question into "should i be townreading you?"

[skitter30]

b/c i don't totally understand what your concerns are or why you think my stances are implausible
and you seem to think 'i should know better here', which to me implies that you think i shouldn't be scumreading you for the reasons i am, but it also doesn't seem like you think i should be townreading you so what sort of stance am i supposed to have on you here

[skitter30]

like unless you think i ought to be townreading you here i'm not sure how me being suspicious of you is a problem

[Datisi]

which to me implies that you think i shouldn't be scumreading you for the reasons i am, but it also doesn't seem like you think i should be townreading you so what sort of stance am i supposed to have on you here

like unless you think i ought to be townreading you here i'm not sure how me being suspicious of you is a problem

this is what i mean

like i feel like my post clearly said "i don't know if you should be townreading me here as i don't objectively know if my own play is townie, but i don't think you should be scumreading me for the reasons you are"

like "null" is a category that exist and that i'm pretty sure you've heard of? so i don't get why you're saying that "if you don't think i should be townreading you here then what's the problem with me scumreading you" as if those are the only two ways you can read a post and as if laws of the universe say that you *have* to have one of those reads on someone

this is also partly what i mean with "skitt should know better", like i still feel like it's obvious that if i say "i'm not sure if there exist good reasons to townread me right now", that that is

not

logically followed by "i can't object to people scumreading me for reasons i percieve as off", and it feels like skitt's latest posts are trying to imply it is and are calling me out on it

and this is giving me the same pings as earlier, with the whole "why would i undermine townreads on exactly you" and "there were no townreads on you so what was i undermining" - it feels like there are unspoken rules of conversation there (that wasn't skitt's plan from pregame; the future townreads from forming; and now that null is a thing) that skitter is conveniently ignoring when replying to me in order for her replies to make me look worse

maybe i'm expressing myself so terribly that those rules shouldn't be assumed (and if i am, someone other than skitter let me know), but that's the feeling i keep getting

[skitter30]

i'm p sure that if my read on you was 'null' you'd be unsatisfied as well, no?

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and in response to all of that i feel like you're kinda misunderstanding/misattributing thoughts to me, possibly on purpose