Micro 1023 - The Coalition: TBotITGBSMoD [game over]

[The Cheek of Gamma]

Oh i'm not pleaing to you, I'm pleaing to gamma to overwrite your vote when he's online :p

How rude ;.;
~ C

[Art]

VOTE: implosion

[implosion]

My feelings on the whole right now are something like this...

Vulture: town, with a possibility of the read decaying over time, but for now decently solidly town.
CoG: town unless someone has some good reason to meta-read Cheeky as scum.
GL: town and showing it repeatedly.

Black Ranger: mildly town pending further bureaucratic review.
Koba: probably town. Could sub into my coalition for Black Ranger pretty easily.

Pooky: I do not know how to read them; Iverson was not outside their scumrange afaik though there are a couple of things they did that I mildly liked, but there are, right now, people I'd rather put in a coalition.

Art: I will never have any clue how to read them.

Uncle Shelby: gut says scum. To try to substantiate it... some stuff feels tonally a bit scummy. 308 for instance feels like "I'd like to say this player is scummy but I don't really want to get on their bad side yet". The kind of analysis he's done in his catchup strings is sort of non-complex in the way Koba was describing, i.e. I don't think it really would take much effort to fake as scum. e.g., the string of posts starting at 308 feels extremely surface level, pointing things out but not really with any sort of opinion on them. He described my post as extremely fence-sitty (and lol it was extremely so) but without any real implication beyond that. He said his catchup style wouldn't include listing townreads but like, the catchup style includes a lot of saying things that are very easy to fake as scum whilst catching up. I'm not really sure if I buy the feeling the need to remind himself that two players are unaligned later thing on page 1, I'm just skeptical that's really a thought process town is thinking about on day one of a coalition game. I could rant some more but I'm either right or wrong and I don't really see much reason to rant more because if I'm wrong I'll just be confbiasing myself.

[Vulture]

HEAL: Vulture
HEAL: PookyTheMagicalBear
HEAL: GuiltyLion
HEAL: Art
HEAL: Uncle Shelby

A bit tired to explain this in detail but wanted to give people an idea of where my head's at.

GuiltyLion I keep going back and forth on, but I thought his recent posting was rather good and more of what I expected from his posting, having looked through some old stuff of his. I'm forgiving the lapse I had the other day and hoping it doesn't bite me.

Art might be a controversial pick but looking at the pictures the interpretations I come to from his art I agree with.

Pooky is towny. I don't have a lot to back this up except 'energy' and am aware that this, too, might bite me. But compared to everyone else I feel better about it.

Uncle Shelby's towny as well.

The only scumreads (and even that is eh) that I have are implosion and CheekGamma. Imp admitting to fence sitting openly but it just feels like he's saying that we caught him doing it, trying to damage control. It doesn't feel as natural as I'd want, but having never played with him and only read a few things I find him a hard read regardless. CheekGamma have also felt a little stilted and I've disliked the amount of questioning; it feels like the amount that they are probing, to me, overwrites the amount of things they're really saying. And what they say I shrug at.

Black Ranger and Kobalition are fine. If I had to include one I'd include Kobalition just because they have more stuff to read.

There are my thoughts. Good night.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

my town energy is overwhelming

[The Cheek of Gamma]

VOTE: Uncle Shelby
I think I’d like my vote to be here over wherever it currently is, we both kinda agreed Shelby felt scummy, so I’ll vote the person I can actually agree with Cheeky on rn
-G

[The Cheek of Gamma]

something i noticed this morning is that I got the vibe the black ranger entered the game playing in a way that feels "safe". Not coalitioning that slot likely.

Talk about this?
Tbh I actually think Ranger’s entrance was kinda towny
-G

[The Cheek of Gamma]

PookyTheMagicalBear [5]: GuiltyLion, PookyTheMagicalBear, Art, The Cheek of Gamma, Vulture

does any1 have a problem with my coalition

lets hear some criticism.

"im not on it" is not a valid complaint.

Why is Vulture in it over implosion?
-G

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

cuz my boy Prism told me Implosion's a scumbag and I can always blame him if the read is wrong.


Also I'm just sticking to townteaming the people I think I have a decent read on and I'm not gonna bother trying to read people I might not be able to read well.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

dude if you have a problem with my coalition you need to tell me who on my coalition is a baddie and why they're a baddie

There's nothing mandating I do this.

this feels dodgy/hedgy/scumbaglogic

[The Cheek of Gamma]

Implosion/vulture?
~ C

[The Cheek of Gamma]

Yep pretty happy with that team on a quick skim. Gg.
~ C

[The Cheek of Gamma]

imp, what's a good GL take? I'll read up in the morning and see if I get there.

It would be funny if this was a PT slip.
~ C

[The Cheek of Gamma]

i read the first 4 pages and only managed to get a townread on imp

Oh darn it's not.
~C

[Datisi]

vote count 1.09

with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-08-13 20:45:00).

coalition

Art [5]:

Vulture, GuiltyLion, PookyTheMagicalBear, Uncle Shelby, Art

Vulture [5]:

Vulture, PookyTheMagicalBear, GuiltyLion, Art, Uncle Shelby
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PookyTheMagicalBear [5]:

GuiltyLion, PookyTheMagicalBear, Art, The Cheek of Gamma, Vulture
---

GuiltyLion [5]:

GuiltyLion, Vulture, PookyTheMagicalBear, The Cheek of Gamma, implosion
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Uncle Shelby [5]:

The Coalition, PookyTheMagicalBear, Black Ranger, Uncle Shelby, Vulture
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implosion [5]:

implosion, Vulture, Black Ranger, GuiltyLion, The Cheek of Gamma
---

The Cheek of Gamma [4]:

The Cheek of Gamma, PookyTheMagicalBear, implosion, GuiltyLion
---

The Coalition [3]:

The Coalition, PookyTheMagicalBear, implosion
---

Black Ranger [3]:

implosion, Uncle Shelby, Black Ranger

yeet

The Cheek of Gamma [2]:

Black Ranger, Uncle Shelby

PookyTheMagicalBear [1]:

PookyTheMagicalBear

The Coalition [1]:

GuiltyLion

implosion [1]:

Art

Uncle Shelby [1]:

The Cheek of Gamma

not voting [3]:

implosion, Vulture, The Coalition

mod notes

~ The Coalition is v/la until potentially august 5th
~ my vote counter does not work for heal votes, which means i'm counting everything by hand. please yell at me if i miss any votes.

flavour

[Black Ranger]

GL reasoning works backwards, starting at "this person is X" and then tries to manufacture reasons for it. I'm not sure where people get townreads on that but its like blatantly scum and I'm vetoing all coalitions with them on it.

a) where do you see me doing that?
b) Do you disagree with any of my townreads (Iverson, Cheek, Vulture) in my coalition? If not, this is a bizarrely harsh reaction to the fact that I'm scumreading you

I really liked 94. The "fuck you and the horse you rode in on" vibe I'm getting does read completely like bravado and may even be performative. How has The Coaltion being outed as Koba as of post 128 effected how you feel about the theatrics of their behavior?

Also, what experience do you have with Koba? I'm looking over MN 2199 (starting at day 2) and MN 2205 to spot a difference.

[Black Ranger]

@Cheeky head

What's your take on this post?

Implosion is oldschool and sees scum focus on mech like clockwork and he should be shot on sight.

This is, not true? I generally don't consider almost anything like "focusing on mech" to be alignment-indicative outside of context, and I think the context of the tone in which Vulture did it is townish.

Scum might focus on mechanics sometimes but it was page three and and Vulture had already said they were going to drop it at that point.

And is your read on Vulture dependent on your read on implosion?

[Uncle Shelby]

Cheeky, you've ignored a pretty simple and direct question from me twice now.

Yeah I'm not wasting my breath spoon feeding you pretty simple logic. I said what I meant in a non cryptic way. GL elaborated your approach pretty nicely this page.
~ C

their catchup posts/questions up to this point are more centered around finding 'gotcha!' contradictions than they demonstrate genuine solving, or interpreting people's posts with charitable intent

Where is this emotional response coming from My question is a pretty straightforward self-meta request.

Interesting that the only people who have a problem with my playstyle being "uncharitable" are my scumreads

[Uncle Shelby]

PookyTheMagicalBear [5]: GuiltyLion, PookyTheMagicalBear, Art, The Cheek of Gamma, Vulture

does any1 have a problem with my coalition

lets hear some criticism.

"im not on it" is not a valid complaint.

Is this a serious list?

[Uncle Shelby]

Spoiler: An exercise in futility

HEAL: Uncle Shelby
HEAL: Art

Why is GL town to you?

[Uncle Shelby]

Cheeky you should listen to your hydra partner who's played with me before, rather than you who has not.

"Caught for the wrong reasons" feels like a buzzword atp, but that's sort of how I'm feeling about this. Actually it's a little more specific than that, because implosion could be intentionally masking his scum meta in this game, which is a pointless way of hiding as scum if you're playing at an unfamiliar table. Having a hard time deciding between this and the Lion for my second spot.

[Uncle Shelby]

The second spot on my "Do Not Coalesce" list, that is.

[Uncle Shelby]

But hey, there's room for all 3 there!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im always serious except when im trolling

[Uncle Shelby]

CoG: town unless someone has some good reason to meta-read Cheeky as scum.

What are your in-game reasons for reading them as town?

Not much I can respond to in your me-blurb, but I've noted your issues with my playstyle right here next to the others'.