Mini 2230: Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night: Game Over

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VOTE: spiffy

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~post reserved for notscience~

pedit- :^]

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i'm town but pretty sure my hydra partner rolled scum, he's acting weird in discord

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impressive you've managed to gather that in less than a page

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Spoiler: noddy and Pooky neighborhood

I’m actually a n1 vig and going to kill bulge he was role fishing me p hard

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something about his sister's "birth"day, and he mentioned The Gym. I think he might be crumbing

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ms keeps eating my posts notty i blame the tigers

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Everyone knows the entirety of my discord activity is talking about shiny Pokémon and cobra Kai

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nuts

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who will be the first in this plist to complain about X number of pages already guys come on

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Do you think that’s town or scum indicative MG?

Ninja
Stop stealing my thunder

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COBRA KAI

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VOTE: Annie Edison

OMGUS

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I’m at one so far. Ffery?

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I’m at 2.5 now.

Dunn, why Luke?

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I’m at 3.5 now.

Ffery I think you’re misinterpreting LLD I’m assuming she’s saying stop claiming that stuff, at least that’s how I read it.

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Are you guys normally so loose with info? Who is this, Bell?

Dunn I literally just called her ffery

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@ffery the half is LLD (although I particularly enjoy the Red Xing so that’s why it’s a half)

Townreading Dunn bc I don’t see scum Dunn pulling the “oh wait scum can send shards”

Townreading manatee for the curiosity over sleez’s read, I think scum would play it much less overt

Townreading sleez mostly for the interaction with manatee

Ninja-
If we crumb in Garfield references we can get it past him!!!

Isn’t that right Nurmel??

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Just because lld gets a townread for it doesn’t mean you do

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I didn't realize that scum had an alternative win condition.

I still think we should consider powering somebody up, but don't think we should hand it out randomly.

That’s what I took this as peanut gallery

Especially because it was pre announced there was an alternate scum wincon

@ffery- I’ll be entirey honest I’m going to read you guys off bell

Nothing you’ve posted has sent off alarm bells though!

Ninja-

Ffery get your buddy

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Bell's here now?

I thought the “I am here” was bell

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MY MIND IS TELLING ME NO

BUT MY BODY

MY BODY

IS TELLING ME YEEEAAAAH

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Yeah that was not a good post by manatee

Ninja-
Yeah he feels kinda off this game

Ninja
Meh

Ninja
Can y’all stop it’s not even bell this time

[Annie Edison]

I’ve liked Pooky so far he’s kinda reminded me of tarot Pooky

But I’m not really ever the best at reading him

I’ll see what bulge thinks when he’s around

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I’m townreading ffery now.

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You leave my Dunn alone.

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It’s more that I don’t think Dunn plays dumb like that as scum

Ninja
^

I shouldn’t have beaten Cabd here

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Consider our vote on Medea, but want to make sure Bulge is seeing it too first.

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Dunn never wants to focus on reading me

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Hi PA! Are you town?

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Luke is Medea town or scum and why

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COBRA KAI

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How do you feel about the members of his wagon? Pooky, LLD, CephTD, Sleez?

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I don’t think it’s like you interact like this with Cabd as scum

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Phrasing

Basically I feel like the way you are approaching Cabd is weird to think of from a scum ffery worldview?

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How do you feel about the members of his wagon? Pooky, LLD, CephTD, Sleez?

Leaning town on Pooky and the dragons.

No thoughts on LLD, have not hit play on a single video she has posted, and that probably won't change. Likely to outsource that read to other lol

Sleez is null atm. Other then their real early interaction with Manatee, my brain has not retained any posts from that slot

I liked Sleez’s abrasive ness and think it’s a weird look for scum in a setup with everyone so familiar with each other.

I’m still leaning town on LLD (don’t tell her I haven’t hit play on any of the videos either)

As I said before Pooky seems town and cephTD seems fine so far?

Is there a wagon you’d like to see as a counter to Medea?

Ninja-
Like I see what you’re saying ffery and I think the obvious answer is I haven’t played in a bit and am not doing a good job at holding my cards close

But regardless, we all know I’m not about to let myself be miselimmed here. I’m gonna do my own thing if/when you are ready to work together just drop me a line!

Ninja-
I was actually thinking about those games earlier when Cabd was trying to explain why he wasn’t townreading you. Have you guys played on different slots since then?

I feel like in that world you guys get way more mileage out of defending each other to death though?

Ninja-
Yeah I know. Regardless, if I’m wrong on her it’ll be obvious by day two latest so

[Annie Edison]

Scum ffery pocketed me and I doomed town in limlo.

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Last time I’ll say this and I’ll drop it

Your hydra buddy is the easiest player in this game to read so I CAN hip shoot and reevaluating later when I have more information (like, say, being scumread FOR hip shooting)

Like I get the train of thought but come on, do you really think I’m that oblivious lol

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I took a few weeks/a month off because of personal stuff

I normally am in at least one at all times

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Yes, that was why I said go get your hydra buddy

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Manatee talk to me about the people voting Medea. What are your reads on al of them?

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Is it a proximity thing with sleez or something else? Because I felt like the brusqueness was more likely to come from town. And just like that confidence right out of the gate felt fairly town.

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COBRA KAI

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I feel like I have too many townreads.

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I was tempted to be honest.

But I’m going to carry this game the right way.

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Mylo, Cabd.

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Yes.

I’m scumreading you but worried I’m just being cocky and it’s why I’m waiting for bulge, because in tenet when I was scumreading you and I’d show him posts when he was no longer really playing but he’d still agree with me. Like yes, ffery seeing it too helps some as well

Also because I cobra kai hammered both days of tarot without him and I want us to have an actual hydra game lol

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Hi dense I’m notsci

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Luke I’ve played in tons of games with both of them and I still only catch like 60/70% so don’t worry

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Xeno had 120 pages in 48 hours iirc

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Bell let’s assume for a second you’re wrong and I’m town. Who’s scum?

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I figured you had because fairylit brought it up somewhat recently, let me know when you are

I have way too many townreads atm

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I find myself with varying degrees of townreads on the Medea wagon. And ffery. And manatee. And Dunn. And you.

I don’t think scum is all in (Medea, AA9, Titus, Spiffy)

Mind you not all of them are like take it to the bank reads. I’m just probably cutting too much slack ans trying to figure out where.

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I don’t, I feel like my Medea read should have been obvious to anyone actually reading

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COBRA KAI

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Yes.

I’m scumreading you but worried I’m just being cocky and it’s why I’m waiting for bulge, because in tenet when I was scumreading you and I’d show him posts when he was no longer really playing but he’d still agree with me. Like yes, ffery seeing it too helps some as well

Also because I cobra kai hammered both days of tarot without him and I want us to have an actual hydra game lol

Me two pages before AA9's question of my read on Medea.

I liked Sleez’s abrasive ness and think it’s a weird look for scum in a setup with everyone so familiar with each other.

I’m still leaning town on LLD (don’t tell her I haven’t hit play on any of the videos either)

As I said before Pooky seems town and cephTD seems fine so far?

Is there a wagon you’d like to see as a counter to Medea?

Me on page 12.

I find myself with varying degrees of townreads on the Medea wagon. And ffery. And manatee. And Dunn. And you.

I don’t think scum is all in (Medea, AA9, Titus, Spiffy)

Mind you not all of them are like take it to the bank reads. I’m just probably cutting too much slack ans trying to figure out where.

Me right before I express my distaste for AA9 not knowing my read on medea and the members of the wagon. It's literally most of what I've talked about this game.

@Titus, go on...

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I want you to go on about your read on me and how it changed between those posts, for the record.

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(not cabd titus)

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I want a bit more about your read on me. I'm trying to read in that pool of four and see if that gamestate view makes any sense (basically had it down to Medea, you, AA9, spiffy) or if im cutting breaks somewhere i shouldnt

ninja-
ah

I feel like I was one of the earliest to actually explain some of their reads though? So thats kinda a weird take

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I'll try to type something up more finite after I finish dinner/while we watch LCS

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I'll try to type something up more finite after I finish dinner/while we watch LCS

I uh. Ban kennen.

That was really bad lmao

I just want to see impact on shen

[Annie Edison]

You could tunnel AA9 instead who has pretty evidently showed she's not actually trying to read me!

ninja
Ik i was already townreading ffery but thats town bell too

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Spoiler: ManateeGal

People are being scummy already but I only have one vote.

interesting

People are being scummy already but I only have one vote.

interesting

What's interesting about it?

your phrasing

People are being scummy already but I only have one vote.

interesting

What's interesting about it?

your phrasing

Not the fact people are being scummy?

no...? considering theres been like 3 pages and you havent outlined who youre talking about

i am hesitant abt shards bc from my understanding a certain amount turns a player demonic and mafia win w 7 demonic players

i'd assume the number of players that start demonic is 4-5 if 7 demonic players for a maf win

-53 is a bad response because I don't think the "phrasing" is the interesting part, or what that entails
-64 is scummy for asking about this and the response feels off.
-90 is worded like mafia write things and this is an easy angle for scum to take when discussing this mechanic
-93 seems like bad reasoning

Overall I think scum

VOTE: ManateeGal

53 is a bad explanation but Im chalking it up to newbie
64 I dont get why asking for another player's scumreads is scummy
90 I can kinda see
93 Just seems like newbie not good at setup spec

209 is a thing though.

[Annie Edison]

Ive read that post like five times and I can only now kinda see what youre saying

I just think its an issue in manatee's phrasing, like it literally reads to me as "youve had three pages who were you scumreading here"

Like I dont htink its asking for a case at all

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Hey bell I got you and ffery a present

[Annie Edison]

Spoiler: Big pretty readslist on page 20

Town

Dunn

- Dunn's been proactively solving and piecing things together, plus the earlier bits about scum Dunn not taking a "naivete over the setup" angle.

fferyBell

- both have hit tonal markers for me. In particular, ffery's push back on Cabd about pocketing (I believe ceph used the term feisty?) was a big one, and Bell's 458 is the snark we know and love.

Sleez

- I liked the early interaction with manatee that I've already weighed in on. I like the analysis on Lukewarm in 421 and 427. When I've been working on this, that actually helped make it make a bit more sense than I originally expected.

Leantown

Pooky

- He reminds me of Tarot pooky, particularly day 1. I can kinda see what Bell said about being a bit performative, but I'm not super concerned about it at this point. This is subject to move after I chat with bulge.

CephTD

- I liked his weigh in around ffery that I mentioned higher up on the readslist. I also liked 200 and the paranoia around LLD in 222. Also I'd wager the focus around the shard mechanic is >rand town as thats the kinda random shit town chases. I do want to see more solving out of them at some point though.

LLD

- I liked her response to ffery over the shards, I liked her callout of Titus's weird mindmeld post in 417, and I liked the vote on Medea.

Just north of null

manatee

- I just get this distinct newbtown out of their depth feeling whenever I read a manatee post. I do see Dunn's point about 90 and ffery's about 209, so that's why they are closer to null. Need more info there, I suppose its not totally out of the realm of suspicion about newbie scum not knowing how to get a foothold in this game? Particularly if they got a heads up that we townbloc.

Null

spiffy

- awful voting record. burn with fire

Lukewarm

- I had him as town originally. I originally liked 339 but don't like it again upon review. I have this really weird tinfoil that could be a bus vote and panicked a bit at the thought of my hammer? Sleez's comments kinda made some sense. I didn't like the awkwardness around Morph's reads. I don't know his full history, and maybe im just used to it by now but it just feels like artificial busywork looking back. And yeah I commented on it being tricky to understand them and like, I get it, but multiple people said to leave it.

Titus

- Titus's comments about me not sharing reads was weird given I was like the first to actually do it. Will probably be easier to read over time.

Scum

Medea

- I'm on the fence. Cabd's intro felt off as most of us have already said, particularly the "I have reads but PA said I cant." Like normally there's this race to see who can gather the most townreads early and it just wasnt really there from him? 245 felt weird to me before ffery confirmed they hadn't played together post-2181. LLD read feels a bit weird, and it's weird he hasn't really elaborated on any of the other townreads he supposedly had by this point. (And no, he cant claim ffery's one becasue of 245). PA's felt alright but doesnt outweigh my misgivings about Cabd, I liked 270 a bit but could also see it as a distance. 369 feels weird to see in a post, instead of like a private comment. This one is also subject to move after I talk with Bulge.

AA9

- I've talked about her in my ISO already. But the short version is her line of questioning of me feels weird given everything about her line of questioning was something I've discussed both before and after the line of questioning.

This post was brought to you by the letter "W", for WEIRD.

VOTE: AA9

For now. Might move over to Medea.

Earlier editions had Lukewarm in the Leantown tier.

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for the record thats entirely me bulge said hed probably be around tomorrow(tm)

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i mean like I know about you and know youve done stuff thats just the vibe ive gotten from your posts

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@titus- I'd like your thoughts on what's going on outside of the medea wagon- why theres no other counter push. Its weird its all vanity votes and I understand im a hypocrite but still

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If anything it’s a placeholder while I wait for bulge

It boils down to her faking scumhunting. It’s a lack of awareness of what’s going on in the game that’s strange for anyone trying to parse and digest what’s going on.

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My bad I usually do pretty well differentiating

Do you think she’s intentionally muting her reaction?

Re:Luke, meh. It felt weird looking back at it.

Re:Medea- yeah, I’m scumreading them. I’ve been pretty upfront about it all game. But I’m gunshy. I’m worried I put myself in a confbias loop between liking the wagon and finding both of them independently weird but at the same time like yeah if cabds scum if I give him any leeway at all the games an uphill battle but what if I’m just doing perpetual mylo 2 electric boogaloo and hamstringing us before we ever get started by making a total ass out of myself

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:/

I’m rusty on old meta, yes. Didn’t do my Medea homework.

I’m sorry it wasn’t intended in such a way. I’ll think on it some.

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I think it’s hypocritical of me considering I’m doing the same thing. I get it.

Who were your other townreads from earlier or are those still off the table? Other than LLD.

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Sleez which of my reads do you disagree with snd why?

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Essentially my readslists traditionally work in a “clear from bottom up” sense and I’m typically much more confident about my townreads. I have no combined associatives for them as of this point.

Medea is a hydra of two really strong players that will make or break the game on whichever side they are on. They are both really good scum players, and as I’ve mentioned earlier I’m trying to hard carry this game. That means sorting out the heavy hitters ASAP, so I can take them out before they can take me out. Essentially, Im trying to find the scum that can carry despite their team and bring them down. I think that the game as a whole is confused about them, but the fact you see my solving versus a lot of others is I’m also kinda gunshy in general about eliminating friends. It’s something I’ve been working on, but it still rears its head at times (such as me not voting yet and wanting to be fairly confident before I do. I have a tendency to tilt if I fuck up so yeah)

Tldr- Basically I’m putting a lot of pressure on myself. Everyone in the game is focusing on Medea because both players are strong individually let alone together.

Does this make sense? I kinda just mind spewed. Might make it a bit easier to understand fmpov and most of the game can vouch for that

What did you think of my thoughts on AA9 not actually trying to sort me?

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I don’t have a good response, PA.

I’ve retyped this post like five times and it just doesn’t seem right.

I know how you guys interact. I enjoy watching the ribbing and stuff. My take was the posting reminded me of the “use thread for hydra pt” strategy I’ve seen. I’m literally just trying to get my bearings with you guys so I can figure out if I’m right or confbiasing because I really don’t even know anymore.

I’m sorry. I’m going to leave you guys be for a bit and do other things because everything’s too murky for me right now.

Ninja-
@Sleez-Yeah, I think you’re probably right re:Medea. I’m going to drop it for a bit while I try and recalibrate.

I don’t find AA9s posts genuine, as I’ve mentioned in my ISO her question on me in particular was strange. As you have said yourself, Medea was a big focus for me. Her asking what my read was despite me saying it in a past post, sharinn my thoughts on the wagon, and even sharing full thoughts after (which were subsequently ignored. Weird for someone waiting for an answer, no?) just seems off.

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HURT: LLD

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Bell help me kill AA9

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I don’t find AA9s posts genuine, as I’ve mentioned in my ISO her question on me in particular was strange. As you have said yourself, Medea was a big focus for me. Her asking what my read was despite me saying it in a past post, sharinn my thoughts on the wagon, and even sharing full thoughts after (which were subsequently ignored. Weird for someone waiting for an answer, no?) just seems off.

@Luke- I think there’s been an awful lot of setup confusion thus far and it’s naive to assume it’s all coming from town

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It’s an alter I’m p sure

Ninja-
Re:LLD

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I disagree with all three of those

Sleez in particular. What don’t you like?

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Pooky where’s our scorecard?

[Annie Edison]

She’s been commenting via the pictures bell

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Bell her ISO from Xeno was my favorite ISO and she did the same thing

[Annie Edison]

HURT: Dunnstrall

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Wow, that was pretty town.

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Do you think AA9 is town, LLD?

What about Sleez?

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Bell, please chill. I actually liked 611.

@LLD- what about Pooky?

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Me

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Do you think we should just ignore the shard mechanic altogether LLD?

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It almost reminds me of the turnstile.

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Am I correct in thinking you agreed with Titus’s townread of Dunn?

Do you like Titus’ posting so far?

[Annie Edison]

Are there any posts you felt have gone unnoticed so far (open ended) that could use a second look?

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Bell, please chill. I actually liked 611.

@LLD- what about Pooky?

Q. Why did you like 611 when they cut my meaning away and replaced it with their own, while simultaneously trying to create a rift between FF and I something they accused me of doing as scum in Tenet, while simultaneously lamisting and concern trolling about roles?

It’s the first time all game he’s hit a tonal marker for me. I’m not sure if this is waters settling or what. I’m thinking on it.

I also think it’s harder to create a rift between hydra buddies than slots you don’t know for sure.

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Ceph scummy, okay.

Are you saying you think manatees post was a townslip? Or that we should all be more wary of it? Or that the use of “hesitant” indicates a certain alignment?

And I’m assuming that it’s due to the lack of answer from Cabd? He’s kinda done this about multiple reads though.

Pedit
Why does everyone always call my shticks shticks

Only I can call them that

LLD which of the reads expressed do you dislike?

[Annie Edison]

Spoiler: Weird discrepancy in manatee wall

[Medea read]

i guess bc i think some votes on them are scummy i'd default town

Here are her reads on everyone who has voted medea.

Pooky - I have no real opinion besides maintaining my lvl 1 townread on him. i'd like 2 interact more.

LadyLambadelta - will probably have more to say when we can get more out of their posting style

This is weird given I'm actually trying to get content out of LLD atm and demonstrating how we CAN get it.

Here There Be Dragons - lvl 1 townread for now. im not sure theyve posted since ive stated that opinion but it remains the same. ~vibe~ read more then anything else

Townread.

Sleez - i dont think ive disagreed with most anything shes said and her perspective and approach to the game is a pretty easy town for me.

Strongest townread in the whole list.

Lukewarm - ive outlined most of my thought process regarding him but im struggling to find stuff i like regarding him. as sleez mentioned his medea vote felt opportunistic. not a huge fan

The only scum read here.

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@LLD- I actually think the AA9 comment is more likely a town marker, that's the sort of lazy shit town cops to all the time.

I don't like the spiffy read either though, plus what I commented on in my spoiler tag.

I think I walk away from the list moving manatee down.

VOTE: Manatee

I also hate 648.

ninja-
ehhhhh I retract that ig

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Bell what do you think of my spoiler quotes

[Annie Edison]

Titus talk to me about Manatee's readslist.

[Annie Edison]

What did you think of her interactions with me over the past few pages? I feel like even with being mute she's been able to communicate the problem quotes, we just have to think a bit when trying to rope her in.

ninja-
I feel like there's been a lot of people mentioning outsourcing reads this game in general, Titus.

Never change, Bell.

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Thats why the hydra is named what it is, Sleez. It's just bell being snarky.

We aren't wagoning them. They're town.

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We the people. I don't want to waste a wagon on someone obviously town. I'd rather have a chance to hit scum.

ninja-
If only I had a pretty color coded and names bolded list for you to skim and be able to check

[Annie Edison]

I was assuming that was about Tenet?

[Annie Edison]

Turn the mirror upside down, now what do you see?

[Annie Edison]

Wouldnt you still be rightside up?

@snark- I took it as "words are hard"

But I really don't like the things I quote striped.

ninja-

ninja-
oh duh

[Annie Edison]

I was literally just thinking of "games LLD was scum in recently"

[Annie Edison]

fairylit where are you at wrt manatee?

[Annie Edison]

I think my reads now looks like

Town
Dunn, fferybell, sleez, LLD(^)
Pooky, CephTD
Spiffy, Titus, Lukewarm, Medea (^^)
Manatee (vv)
AA9
Scum

ninja-
Spiffy I day rolecopped you bc of your awful voting record and it told me you are a vanilla cop

What do you have to say in your defense

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The intro to the day and the excitement levels and cheerleading gave me distinct tarot feels when I was interacting with the thread, if that makes sense?

[Annie Edison]

Mr. Mouse, don't you ever get tired of rolling scum?

yes he does

exhibit a:

I'm so excited to not care what any of you think about me

book him your honor

[Annie Edison]

Bell's asked like half the game if theyre scum

I think he forgot how to scumhunt

[Annie Edison]

I will say, I do hope we see more out of pooky at some point in the form of solving a la the pooky/annie PT so I can shore it up.

But game's still early.

Do you disagree ffery?

ninja-
no ffery, why

[Annie Edison]

You know what I like?

[Annie Edison]

Pagetops.

[Annie Edison]

What do you think of the reactions to your readslist, manatee? Do any stick out as concerning?

[Annie Edison]

Trying to figure out how to weigh up your thoughts about him.

I wouldn't bet the game on it.

I feel like bulge told me how to read him at the start of Tarot but I forgot what he said. As is this is very much a vibe read.

[Annie Edison]

i have been somewhat. maybe i'm not giving her enough credit. i'll go iso her and see if i still feel this way.

I have a quote stripe spoiler that articulated a bit of the issue with manatee. I was townreading her prior to her reads list with a few pings here and there. Her readslist gave Medea a townread because of scummy wagon votes, and the reads on the five people that voted Medea were Town, Town, Null, needs more info, and scum. Really weird disconnect that makes the reads look artificial.

Ninja-
STD why is AA9 town

[Annie Edison]

I don’t think her questioning of me makes sense from the POV of someone actually trying to read me as she’d have her answers if she had just… like, read me. Was there a particular post that had the best vibes?

[Annie Edison]

There has to be scum hiding in the people refusing to read LLD. I (and now ceph) have shown how to interact and we’ve actually got decent answers out of her.

I’m going to take a look at that later I think.

[Annie Edison]

p sure LLD is town cuz theres no way the best thread control scum player randomly decides she wants to meme post in random images for lulz*






*throw this read out the fucking window if she's somehow alive anywhere close to the end game

I like this post. A lot.

Am I allowed an I told you so

But I did tell you not to bet the game on it so meh

[Annie Edison]

CHESSKID

[Annie Edison]

what's up, we still in d1?

[Annie Edison]

who's town?

[Annie Edison]

is this ffery?

[Annie Edison]

@dunn

asking about what in 64?

what angle r u talking abt in 90? wdym by "worded like mafia write things"

how is my reasoning in 93 scum indicative?

Vote: ManateeGal

*sad trombone*

i like this

[Annie Edison]

meh that's not so helpful to me

who's next in line for #2 and 3?

[Annie Edison]

thoughts on medea? I'm assuming you've played with them as a hydra before?

[Annie Edison]

were they married at the time?

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top of 10, so far liking manatee and sleez for town

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I’ve liked Pooky so far he’s kinda reminded me of tarot Pooky

But I’m not really ever the best at reading him

I’ll see what bulge thinks when he’s around

I still don't think I'm great at reading him, at least not confidently, but I've learned to look at his shitposting as content and so far I can see the tarot connection yea. hard to say in a slower paced game (only 30 pages in 20-some hours )

[Annie Edison]

that's a playerlist

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what are their reads rn? also is there a recent vc?

[Annie Edison]

did a shard vote go through?

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I feel you on Dunn, I think in general his townplay is pretty easy to replicate as scum but his energy usually feels genuine to me either way.

[Annie Edison]

or even his lack thereof

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the shard thing

?

summarize?

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mm fishy

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my most recent experiences with Cabd have been in unfamiliar-to-him playerlists where he plays very differently, so idr for sure but is that a typical amount of info for him at this stage of the game? my gut's telling me I should be expecting either 100% cryptic nothingness (although PA in the mix prob changes that) or a full colour readslist by this many pages, no?

are there any significant differences between Cabd's and PA's reads?

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maybe I'll look through some ISOs when notty's online and I'm done reading

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dunn do you normally play with your cards on the table?

imo it's a hallmark of his play

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yea I guess I'm less talking about the absence of a big ol comprehensive readslist and more the presence of a sort of trickle-style outing of reads as far as I'm gathering

[Annie Edison]

as far as I'm gathering

[from your wording in 849]

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Luuuuuuke

pedit - thanks I will let my headbrother know

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Bell can come off chilly when he's not a puppy

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It’s just something I do. Probably not the best most times, and I’ve tried limiting doing it to my slam dunk reads. I’ll try to reign it in a bit, but they are like 99% town here. I’m townreading both heads.

BEETLEJUICE WHILE I EAT LUNCH AFTER THE GYM

Ninja
The bottom line is a lot of meta but I can go into it more after my shower if you would like.

Ninja-
Yeah what my better half said

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Yeah what my better half said

hush you

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Because I’m egotistical and normally operate in the support role and want to mix it up

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i mean I'm leaning heavily towards trusting them and even moreso on trusting notty's read but I haven't caught up enough to say that yet

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"PLEASE

DO NOT TOUCH THE FISH"

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i'm not a zookeeper anymore

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dunn do you normally play with your cards on the table?

imo it's a hallmark of his play

guys come on this was fucking great

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gonna take a short break from reading, currently LUKE is the only player with the power to beetlejuice me back into the thread early, but like, this game is what I'm doing with my day today.

[Annie Edison]

hey how are ya

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not as hungover as before!

where's your head at in this game? clarity levels? headache aside

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I took a few weeks/a month off because of personal stuff

I normally am in at least one at all times

I feel like I want to have a conversation about this in ~36 hours. See you then

also if you give me a hint about this i promise i wont tell notty

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you did a spend a good while focusing on that one medea post, that's more my concern than the vote itself. something I've admired about your townplay before is your ability to focus on what's important while not losing sight of the big picture. here you're honing in on stuff i don't think matters enough to drag on as long as it has and I haven't seen as much of a holistic approach as I might expect from what I know of your town play.

talk to me about the nerves. is it about proving yourself? or intimidated like your voice might get drowned out?

pedit - i felt a rub on my lamp

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holistic approach as I might expect from what I know of your town play

ehh maybe holistic is too strong a word, but what i said about keeping focused is a good way of putting it.

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what alignment were you hoping to roll this game?

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(@ manatee)

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but really any aquatic mammal can answer

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snips

There's a third way.

which is?

I'll answer this in a few pages.

did this happen?

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what alignment were you hoping to roll this game?

scum

did you have an approach in mind?

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I did not have this worry when I signed up for the game, because I kind of just assumed that after Ceph's game that Ffery and Cabd would both snap town read me, and I would make it to the town block despite this being such a strong player list. And that just kind of didn't happen

are you saying you were assuming to be snap town read as either alignment or only if you ended up rolling town?

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what alignment were you hoping to roll this game?

scum

did you have an approach in mind?

work on engaging better with everyone and not letting myself react negatively to scumreads

last game iirc a big issue a lot of the town had was with your readslist. I haven't seen yours in this game yet but notty doesn't like it. did you put any thought or effort into curating more believable/palatable reads?

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ty

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woof the readings going real slow atm hahaaa

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is it ffery or bell who's hovering around rn

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lld am i missing any significant portion of your comms by only interpreting the video links by their titles and thumbnails?

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Not even hours into game its already 15 pages. would you guys slowdown for god sake!

hehehehe

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sorry if my question was disrespectful lld, it's not meant as a "I didn't watch any of it! gotcha!!", just looking for insight on how to be properly understanding your content

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Cabd's?

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something I've admired about your townplay before is your ability to focus on what's important while not losing sight of the big picture. here you're honing in on stuff i don't think matters enough to drag on as long as it has and I haven't seen as much of a holistic approach as I might expect from what I know of your town play.

Frist off, thanks for the compliment. "admire my townplay"

I get it, I should climb into your pocket.


But seriously, I am curious what game you felt like I was distinctly different from this one, and in what way.

Because honing in on very specific things is pretty standard for me. Like in Newbie 2065, I locked in on a single post coming from T3, and single mindedly pushed him out over it Day 1, and then Day 2 pushed Zyla out based on her response times in our real time chat compared to day 1

looking back now at both games we've played together, you were catching up in both (replacement in 2069 and missed d1 in tarot) so that could factor into what i'm seeing/not seeing. but in both cases (and extending past the catchup period) you were still able to maintain a healthy overall outlook on the game. I could see in your post progression where you were in your reading, I could see where your thoughts and observations were coming from every time. here it's like you wait and then react, like moving onto the next step. it feels to me like with the one PA post in particular had you painting yourself into a corner, initially unable to produce content as wide-spanning as your town play, and then locked into a certain trajectory after leaning too heavily on the one issue. and like, with what you were saying about nerves in this game, which I'm taking at face value no matter your alignment, that lines up to me.

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You were in the Newbie 2065 game I was talking about

so i was


meh yea no change, this ISO backs up what i'm seeing in the other but without the reading from behind

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I guess the real difference I'm trying to get at luke is that in the situations you referenced, you were pushing scum for misplays. that's what I mean by focused on the right things. i'm not saying "scum luke hones in and town luke doesn't". I just think you're focusing on pointless bull and coming off somewhat defensive in the process, and it's jarring to me.

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moine

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it's there for ya in the shadows with the other ninjas

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gonna sit on the manatee stuff for a while and give her an isodive later. anyway my brain's becoming mush trying to read the parts I've missed at my usual pace. hopefully this sunday stays slow.

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(ttfn)

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Do you think we should look at giving someone a shard with that change? I was mulling over the risks over the pause.

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Spiffy why are you sheeping me on a wagon I’m not on anymore

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Spiffy what do you think of manatee

@Medea does this mean readslist incoming?

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Alright. We’ll hash shit out after that then.

What do you think optimal way to handle shard is to prevent another loltenet?

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In your catch-up you’ll see a readslist wall from manatee that LLD and I hit on. That’s my biggest concern atm besides a few pings here and there.

Ninja
I called it a turnstile and Lexi told me I was wrong

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Rhea*

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@fferybell are you guys planning on doing a full sync list in the nearish future?

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I'm still working on my second town lock.

-Bell, the slow.

You still have half the game to ask if they’re scum. Maybe that will help.

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Bell I would like to circle back to the Titus discussion later.

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Let’s be real for a second bell. We al know the real reason I want medea’s readslist.

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hopefully this sunday stays slow.

a two hour time out

sorry sorry, my fault

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It was tonal stuff I was looking at. You did not sound like you AT ALL this game and I kept calling it weird because I couldn’t articulate it. I understand you are playing different, but your posts legitimately sounded ridiculously off. The first time you DID sound normal I explicitly called it out (611).

(note: I did actually talk about this with bulge today! He agreed, I believe the terms he used were “he’s playing like he’s in a playerlist where he doesn’t know anyone” and agreed that 611 was the first normal post you’ve made all game.)

It’s absolutely horseshit if you’re thinking of pushing me for not engaging or chewing on it more in thread after getting torn into. You know damn well after getting torn into I need time to think and disengage or I’m going to tilt and be useless.

I didn’t bring it up in thread because I was trying to give you space after last night so y’all can do whatever you needed to do. But fuck that noise.

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You understand I moved you guys up to null in my last reads list right.

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Yours has an entire section nearly identical to Luke's but less flattering.

I took this as scumreading but I suppose on reflection it could just be y’all are mad at me.

I’m going to disengage for now. If anyone has anything they need I’ll be lurking.

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I refuse to believe you two can’t tell I’m town.

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Spoiler: Weird discrepancy in manatee wall

[Medea read]

i guess bc i think some votes on them are scummy i'd default town

Here are her reads on everyone who has voted medea.

Pooky - I have no real opinion besides maintaining my lvl 1 townread on him. i'd like 2 interact more.

LadyLambadelta - will probably have more to say when we can get more out of their posting style

This is weird given I'm actually trying to get content out of LLD atm and demonstrating how we CAN get it.

Here There Be Dragons - lvl 1 townread for now. im not sure theyve posted since ive stated that opinion but it remains the same. ~vibe~ read more then anything else

Townread.

Sleez - i dont think ive disagreed with most anything shes said and her perspective and approach to the game is a pretty easy town for me.

Strongest townread in the whole list.

Lukewarm - ive outlined most of my thought process regarding him but im struggling to find stuff i like regarding him. as sleez mentioned his medea vote felt opportunistic. not a huge fan

The only scum read here.

You’ll see this on reread but here was my issue with it spiffy.

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I’m down to sheep spiffy for now

VOTE: AA9

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I liked Sleez’s abrasive ness and think it’s a weird look for scum in a setup with everyone so familiar with each other.

Sleez- I liked the early interaction with manatee that I've already weighed in on. I like the analysis on Lukewarm in 421 and 427. When I've been working on this, that actually helped make it make a bit more sense than I originally expected.

If you want like a meta-y explanation I’m viewing them like a more respectful Superbowl wrt the wine club. Like acknowledging it’s existence and trying to understand but also being assertive about it

There’s very few permutations I can think of that wouldn’t know how this game would head with the playerlist, and sleez’s questioning about it feels genuine. I liked their interactions with me about Medea and that’s part of what helped me snap out of the confbias, and I don’t think it makes sense for scum to try and break down a wall like that given past history.

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I was wondering, I originally thought it was deadline and then it wasn’t that

But I only noticed it late last night.

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Spiffeh falls into the “I’m paranoid of how much I’m liking his posts” tier

Something something good pocket target something

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I am prone to flattery

Meh

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We can make her more dead though.