In post 1401, Dannflor wrote:so this is redtea's general progression on farren > goes from putting pressure on farren > "who is gonna eliminate Farren D1?" > to town reading
on the surface that looks kind of partnery? says they would heaven farren in an instance but wants to keep them around for town
last phase they briefly consider helling Farren but I don't think helling Farren was ever a serious possibility. This is possible? especially if they thought Ich Troje would just kill Farren next with nothing to shake things up? I still feel like a team of farren/redtea/esooa doesn't feel the *need* to do what they did yesterday, but maybe that's a faulty basis
I'd figured sending me to hell during Hell 2 was viable, at least to start with. Things ended up shifting during the day.
In post 1404, Dannflor wrote:it's also weird to push me on the basis of me "being in the center of everyone's PoE's"
like maybe I just don't play the same way as redtea but that's a very political reason to push someone over a personal scum read
which again points towards an agenda but eh
redtea's posting about T3 end of day made me feel like he never actually wanted my wagon to go through? I'm still pretty confused
I can see why you'd call it weird, but at least to me it makes sense - even if it's not for the same reason.
I've done things like that a few times in the past - not so much in the center of *everyone*'s PoE, but in the center of *my* PoE. Try to push a null-read instead and see what develops. It's one of those things I dislike doing because it just feels wrong - but it works more often than I'd like to think.
In post 1411, Dannflor wrote:hey so I'm kinda noticing there was basically no resistance to ich troje's heaven at all. I mean, there was a little in the form of the MT wagon, but if MT is town that's... a little weird right? I feel like there wasn't even an attempted push elsewhere
but, people clearly thought there were other heavenable targets? as evidenced by redtea and farren's posts? and yet
so I'm considering a world where scum are perfectly okay with sending ich troje to heaven because they think they have good reads for whoever the scum team is
I'd been thinking along similar lines, although I was thinking from a more self-centered perspective (i.e. scum was okay with Ich Troje's exaltation because it set me up for a fall later). But this is another possibility - not because of who they were scumreading, but more because of who they were townreading.
In post 1397, Dannflor wrote:okay so redtea doesn't make sense with MT for a few reasons
one is that I think scum teams are generally too self conscious / self aware to do that whole "I'll sheep you and see what happens" thing that MT did with with redtea yesterday. I mean that whole interaction followed by the subsequent questioning MT did of redtea was not only towny for MT but I think really anti-partnery. as a whole that whole move is just patently unnecessary for an MT/redtea team but that specific interaction is just generally not natural for scum teams.
In post 274, Dannflor wrote:like there's a ticking time bomb of people starting to suspect me for lurking or what have you
uh HELLO?? because that's exactly what happens??? As you can see now??
anyway, besides the obvious reason when maf, I try not to lurk when town either because of. Exactly this. I mean any flip helps, technically, but it's not town-serving to make yourself look suspicious.
also i got prodded lol
i mean i guess i see what you mean
, but i've yet to master the art of popping back in after 10 pages and a prod, and dropping a read just like that. I worry about being removed from the game before im done catching up.
i'm pondering 559, which is a bit of a strange post. call this angleshooting, but i think that "notes PTs" basically always come from town. alternatively, though (and very much against my better judgement and against advice i consistently give to other people), i am pondering the hypothesis of that post as a genuine scum PT slip. yes, yes, i know, unlikely, almost any other explanation is overwhelmingly more likely to be the case. even still, like i said—it's a bit of a strange post.
In post 576, northsidegal wrote:mm, i think i'm just psyching myself out maybe. it doesn't really fit the model i have for the types of posts that i see posted to notes PTs and something about the last line could read to me as responding to someone else (not you), but i think that viewed as redtea trying to prepare a bunch of posts in a notes PT in advance it makes more sense.
In post 579, northsidegal wrote:i mean, he said that it was meant for a notes PT, and after thinking about it i think that that's probably just the most likely explanation? for now i'm chalking another one up for the advice of "scumslips basically never happen, you should basically never ever consider that possibility unless given super hard evidence"
this whole sequence from NSG too just... never comes from a scum partner? I realize NSG came out of this exchange town reading redtea, but this feels like a really really weird way to go back interacting with your partner as a scum mate. you don't fake call our your scum mate for a fake scum slip. Or at least NSG doesn't. I just highly doubt this interaction happens if they're scum together for a lot of reasons. I don't think NSG decides she needs to town read redtea for his "notes PT" it's just very much not a partner interaction
In post 1381, Morning Tweet wrote:im not sure i even understand what i was doing that was suspicious in the first place
Morning, this gives me bad vibes, I'm too doubtful for this game
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Did you just ask me why I got vibes from something?
yes?
u also mentioned a post of mine earlier being towny and this one is scummy and i have exactly zero idea why
you must realize that in order for this to work you've got to give some me some kind of insight into your mind
It's gut ;-;
Divorced of context, I can see how 1381 is pingy.
Like, say someone said that exact line when there was a wagon on them. Then it sounds totally different.
But the ... punch? isn't there without a wagon.
something like that.. Farren is sort of considering everything it seems like
Yeah, and doing a lousy job of it.
This is my last busy day; I should be able to actually do some digging tomorrow. The last two days have been mostly along the lines of "Ooh, that looks kinda Town" - and there have been too many moments like that for all of them to be accurate.
In post 1489, Morning Tweet wrote:i legitimately searched "scumslip" in a bunch of my town games and I'm right at the top so much LMFAO
I was about to say that I played a game with you and don't recall people accusing you of scumslipping. But tea leaves and Isis were in that same game, which means that's probably the one.
I can at least confirm she was Town in that one, and that I don't recall her being as Townie in that one as in this one.
In post 1498, Morning Tweet wrote:Your methods of reading me are so mysterious i want to vote red over u
I don't think scum goes, "You're town reading me wrong"?
"I'm not coming to your house with a paper shredder" - Flow
"I honestly had no idea how to converse with (Flow). (Flow) brought up architecture to start with and I was like "oh do you like architecture" and then he was like "uhm no I know nothing about it." And then he threw something out a window??"
Partially that they've gone beyond their self-imposed deadline.
Partially that I'm sheeping you. Not my normal style, but my normal style isn't finding scum in this game. Adapt or lose.
Partially that I want to see what happens here.
I mean I doubt there's going to be a spontaneous hammer, but Farren doesn't seem like the type to pull this
I mean, if it is Farren Red, then they're gonna have to pull out the stops here
I think this looks better for Farren though?
Ig I have to stop procrastinating now
"I'm not coming to your house with a paper shredder" - Flow
"I honestly had no idea how to converse with (Flow). (Flow) brought up architecture to start with and I was like "oh do you like architecture" and then he was like "uhm no I know nothing about it." And then he threw something out a window??"
I really still prefer flowtrap here just because I think he's slightly more likely to be scum and fits into slightly more possibilities. it's not a major difference but i think eliminating flow trap here wins like 10/10 times vs. eliminating redtea wins like 9/10 times if that makes sense. the math isn't precise shut up
also a little bit wary about farren wanting redtea over flow here, but i guess there's no chance ich troje shoots MT here if redtea flips town
RIGHT ICH TROJE
RIGHT?
simplest answer is just flow/redtea so it doesn't really matter in the end
"I'm not coming to your house with a paper shredder" - Flow
"I honestly had no idea how to converse with (Flow). (Flow) brought up architecture to start with and I was like "oh do you like architecture" and then he was like "uhm no I know nothing about it." And then he threw something out a window??"
In post 1521, Farren wrote:If it is flow trap / redtea, then this statement refers to flow trap himself, not to me.
In post 1517, flow trap wrote:I mean, if it is Farren Red, then they're gonna have to pull out the stops here
Let's agree it applies to both of us being paired with redtea (っ◔◡◔)っ ♥
"I'm not coming to your house with a paper shredder" - Flow
"I honestly had no idea how to converse with (Flow). (Flow) brought up architecture to start with and I was like "oh do you like architecture" and then he was like "uhm no I know nothing about it." And then he threw something out a window??"
Ig I have to stop procrastinating now"I'm not coming to your house with a paper shredder" - Flow