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Post Post #375 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 10:21 pm

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In post 370, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 356, kennyk wrote:
In post 353, Salsabil Faria wrote:
Again the misinterpretation! I sused you because you're playing LAMIST card, and I stated the reasons clearly, go check again.
I can also say you're tunneling me because I was tunneling you, but I'll not say that, because I'm not YOU!
It is true that you sussed me because you thought (and still think, I guess) I was playing the LAMIST card. But as you explained in the following post you came to this conclusion because I was sussing others.
In post 68, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 60, floo wrote:I think she says kennyk is trying too hard, missing the obvious motive as I pointed out for a scum accusation. It's good that someone is trying to be serious because this is how we move out of RVS, but kennyk is doing this wrong. She may also be accusing kennyk of doing that just to look town. I recall that the term LAMIST is used here for this.
Perfectly explained but I want to add one thing: they said they had an account here before, so they played before here imo. That's why I'm not taking them that much of a newb player and when I read their posts ("
this sus, that sus
"), I found they were trying
too much
which I generally find suspicious.
I am definitely not tunneling you because of you tunneling me. I might have had different views on things but that's about to happen in a game of mafia. It took quite some time to get you on my personal scum list (as you might see in my readlist in post 235).
Either you're high or my English is bad (not sorry for this particular reason because English isn’t my native language)....

For the last time, I'm explaining & correcting your misinterpreted thoughts about my reason to scumread you. After that, if I see you're doing this again, that'll be a scum claim to me and I'll vote you without asking or correcting you!

I said, I think you're playing LAMIST card (which I generally find more scummy than townie, mentioned the reason also) by jumping out from the RVS stage by appearing
solvy
. And what did you exactly do which made me think it was
too
solvy (a.k.a scummy, mentioned the reason already why I think like that) atp? The answer is: you were doing
I find this sus, thus you're sus; I find that sus, so you're sus
.... That's what I meant when I wrote (
this sus, that sus
) phrase. Therefore, I wasn’t scumreading you because you were susing others, I was scumreading you because
you appeared to be solvy at the RVS stage of the game for getting towncred and it worked for scum!you perfectly because not only you're already in the townblock of some players read-list, my read on you is kept flip-floping because of that (mentioned this too), I'm
your counter wagon now and most probably get eliminated today (which will be fine for town but not for scum!you :giggle:).
So my points to scumread you aren't totally off or too good to be true as scum!you are getting the towncred you need and as multiple people defending you, it'll be not easy (may or may not) to find your partner based on that.
First: I am not high and maybe it is my bad English (same reason as yours; as you said there is absolutely nothing to be sorry about there).

I find nothing in your correction that contradicts what I was saying. But let's try to rephrase your thought process:
You see me sussing people and things in the RVS :right: this is too solvy :right: looks LAMIST :right: LAMIST card is mist likely scum :right: you sus me of being scum :right: let's see if he slips under pressure :right: you voting me

So me sussing others is the beginning of your logical chain of you sussing me. Without me sussing there won't be any sussing on your part. So you inderectly accuse me of sussing.
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Post Post #376 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 10:33 pm

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Hm, I guess I understand now what you're trying to say. But generally susing people is what the game is about, your
susing
seemed excessive that point thus scummy to me.
I'm waiting for someone to say something special in mafia game(s) about me, so that, I can change my pathetic signature.


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Post Post #377 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 10:35 pm

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Btw, who do you think is my partner here?
Also, same question to you... what change will occur in your reads when I'll flip green?
I'm waiting for someone to say something special in mafia game(s) about me, so that, I can change my pathetic signature.


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Post Post #378 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:52 am

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In post 377, Salsabil Faria wrote:
Btw, who do you think is my partner here?
Also, same question to you... what change will occur in your reads when I'll flip green?
Is the first question a scum confession? (pls don't answer this. It was just a joke)

I see no one standing out in particular to be your scum partner. As could be expected in these newbie games with day 1 starts there is no hard evidence on no one. So either your partner did nothing that apperently connects him to you as your partner. This could be because of good play on your and his part. Me being ignorant about this connection or your partner being one of the two players waiting for replacement.

And of course it could be that I can't associate you with a partner, because I misread you and you are one of the good guys.

If this was confirmed by a day one flip I guess my immediate assumption would be, that my other two main suspects would still be just that. As posted earlier I have rr and cls in my scumread list. This hasn't changed. In my eyes you just recently shot past them to my top suspect position.

But that is just my immediate reaction. I would definitely start reading over the whole thread again to compare all posts with the than known fact of you being town. But most likely this will happen after day 2 is started because I don't want to read through the whole thread twice in a short time to do the fact check (or worse: doing the check while it's still night and me being the nightkill).
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Post Post #379 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 5:03 am

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Vote Count 1-6
Save The Dragons
:
floo
: , kennyk
Entellian
:
kennyk
: floo, Radical Rat
Uranus
: ,
cowsloveSushirolls
:Entellian,
Salsabil Faria
: ,Save The Dragons, LicketyQuickety, Uranus
Radical Rat
:
LicketyQuickety
: Salsabil Faria

Not Voting
(9): cowsloveSushirolls, ,

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.



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Countdown: (expired on 2021-08-23 20:00:00)

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STD is on V/LA till Monday evening

>>Fixed the Radical vote <<
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Post Post #380 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 8:52 am

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In post 379, ArcAngel9 wrote:
Vote Count 1-6
Save The Dragons
:
floo
: , kennyk
Entellian
:
kennyk
: floo,
Uranus
: ,
cowsloveSushirolls
:Entellian,
Salsabil Faria
: ,Save The Dragons, LicketyQuickety, Uranus
Radical Rat
:
LicketyQuickety
: , Radical Rat, Salsabil Faria

Not Voting
(9): cowsloveSushirolls, ,

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Countdown: (expired on 2021-08-23 20:00:00)

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I should be on the not voting list:
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Post Post #381 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:06 am

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In post 379, ArcAngel9 wrote:
Vote Count 1-6
Save The Dragons
:
floo
: , kennyk
Entellian
:
kennyk
: floo,
Uranus
: ,
cowsloveSushirolls
:Entellian,
Salsabil Faria
: ,Save The Dragons, LicketyQuickety, Uranus
Radical Rat
:
LicketyQuickety
: , Radical Rat, Salsabil Faria

Not Voting
(9): cowsloveSushirolls, ,

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.



Deadline: August 25th, 2021

Countdown: (expired on 2021-08-23 20:00:00)

Mod Notes:

STD is on V/LA till Monday evening
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I'm pretty sure I'm voting kenny? I don't remember ever voting LQ
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Post Post #382 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:13 am

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In post 374, kennyk wrote:
In post 360, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 332, kennyk wrote:
In post 328, LicketyQuickety wrote:-
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I hope this is not what I think it is. What is your explanations for these posts LQ?
Has nothing to do with this game.
I feared it had (and it might still be it had) The implications would have been partly game destroying. But because of ongoing games I believe you.
I can talk about it after the game maybe.
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Post Post #383 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:15 am

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In post 370, Salsabil Faria wrote:I said, I think you're playing LAMIST card (which I generally find more scummy than townie, mentioned the reason also) by jumping out from the RVS stage by appearing solvy.
Unless you can explain a tone read with this, I generally give Townie points for a player getting us out of RVS. You seem to have the opposite logic than I do.
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Post Post #384 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:39 am

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In post 383, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 370, Salsabil Faria wrote:I said, I think you're playing LAMIST card (which I generally find more scummy than townie, mentioned the reason also) by jumping out from the RVS stage by appearing solvy.
Unless you can explain a tone read with this, I generally give Townie points for a player getting us out of RVS. You seem to have the opposite logic than I do.
Also, your read kinda goes against Occam's Razor. I don't see how/why LAMIST is more likely than it just being a Townie thing to do at face value. That's why you need something else to go with it if you think getting out of RVS is Scummy, because I think at bottom line, it isn't.
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Post Post #385 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 10:25 am

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In post 382, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 374, kennyk wrote:
In post 360, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 332, kennyk wrote:
In post 328, LicketyQuickety wrote:-
Last edited by lilith2013 on Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I hope this is not what I think it is. What is your explanations for these posts LQ?
Has nothing to do with this game.
I feared it had (and it might still be it had) The implications would have been partly game destroying. But because of ongoing games I believe you.
I can talk about it after the game maybe.
I guess I am 99 % sure of what happened. But as to not violate any forum rules I will say nothing more until later on.
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Post Post #386 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 10:30 am

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I sorta feel like Entellian ditched the game. I'd say that more often Rand>T because if he is Scum he's in a pretty good spot here.
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Post Post #387 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:15 am

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In post 386, LicketyQuickety wrote:I sorta feel like Entellian ditched the game. I'd say that more often Rand>T because if he is Scum he's in a pretty good spot here.
how so?
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Post Post #388 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:26 am

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i mean i'd like to think that i'm on the right track, enough so that there's a bit of pressure on scum to do better

quick profile look and it seems that entellian last looked at the game at august 18th, around when the prod was sent. unsure what the lurking is about
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Post Post #389 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:43 am

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In post 387, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:
In post 386, LicketyQuickety wrote:I sorta feel like Entellian ditched the game. I'd say that more often Rand>T because if he is Scum he's in a pretty good spot here.
how so?
Because there is zero pressure on that slot atm. If they get replaced, it's probably just Rand<T.
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Post Post #390 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:49 am

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I just think Salsa's case on Kenny is a fabricated Scum case on someone they know is Town. :shrug:
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Post Post #391 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:53 am

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mod didn't mention it but they're looking for replacements for entell right now
In post 377, Salsabil Faria wrote:
Btw, who do you think is my partner here?
Also, same question to you... what change will occur in your reads when I'll flip green?
you didn't ask me but i'm going to hella tinfoil this one

chances are your partner is StD
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Post Post #392 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:55 am

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In post 391, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:mod didn't mention it but they're looking for replacements for entell right now
How do you know this?
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Post Post #393 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 11:58 am

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In post 392, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 391, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:mod didn't mention it but they're looking for replacements for entell right now
How do you know this?
i get notifications cause im subscribed to the newbie queue
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Post Post #394 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:03 pm

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In post 393, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:
In post 392, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 391, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:mod didn't mention it but they're looking for replacements for entell right now
How do you know this?
i get notifications cause im subscribed to the newbie queue
I see. Okay, thought you might have slipped but this lines up.
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Post Post #395 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:19 pm

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In post 340, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 302, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:
In post 281, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 194, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:
In post 190, LicketyQuickety wrote:VOTE: CLS
i must deflect

VOTE: Radical Rat

reasons already outlined.
Lol! From your , I get the vibe that you'll vote
LQ
next
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maybe? it looked to me like they were just poking me for random things but i don't find it that scummy
I think their stance with
STD
is quiet scummy. At first, scum!them try to buddy
STD
and
kenny
by using TMI,
kenny
most probably get pocketed but
STD
not, so they turn the table 180 degree after get caught by
STD
but voted me while scumreading
STD
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I mean, my TRs are usually pretty good, so...
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Post Post #396 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:23 pm

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In post 70, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 63, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:
In post 60, floo wrote:I think she says kennyk is trying too hard, missing the obvious motive as I pointed out for a scum accusation. It's good that someone is trying to be serious because this is how we move out of RVS, but kennyk is doing this wrong. She may also be accusing kennyk of doing that just to look town. I recall that the term LAMIST is used here for this.
what's the best way to move us outside of RVS, if the way kenny is doing it is "wrong"? is it just because the pushing happened to be on you because he thought your thought process was unclear? what happened in this game seems like just as good of a method as any, which is why i'm asking
I find
LAMIST play
scummy in general basis.
Almost every town games of mine, there was at least one scum
who appeared to be solvy in the early stage of the game
to gain towncred and in my scum games, I also tried to get towncred at RVS stage.
I mean, in my experience, it's usually the
second
or
third
person trying to look solvey that is Scum and not the first person. This isn't a 100% accurate read but it's pretty dang accurate. The type of Scum who go try hard at the beginning are easy to sort later in the game and I personally haven't had the impression that Kenny is Scum in any part of the game. Kenny seems very pure to me. I mean, if Kenny is Scum, kudos to you, but on the face of it, Kenny is just Town.
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Post Post #397 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:25 pm

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In post 77, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 74, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:
In post 70, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 63, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:
In post 60, floo wrote:I think she says kennyk is trying too hard, missing the obvious motive as I pointed out for a scum accusation. It's good that someone is trying to be serious because this is how we move out of RVS, but kennyk is doing this wrong. She may also be accusing kennyk of doing that just to look town. I recall that the term LAMIST is used here for this.
what's the best way to move us outside of RVS, if the way kenny is doing it is "wrong"? is it just because the pushing happened to be on you because he thought your thought process was unclear? what happened in this game seems like just as good of a method as any, which is why i'm asking
I find
LAMIST play
scummy in general basis.
Almost every town games of mine, there was at least one scum
who appeared to be solvy in the early stage of the game
to gain towncred and in my scum games, I also tried to get towncred at RVS stage.
that's true, it's probably easiest to get credit in RVS since it's all just making good first impressions

i wanted to see if "there was at least one scum who appeared to be solvy in the early stage of the game" applied to my first game here and uh, we talked about sandwiches for around 100 posts :oops:
the person who DID try to solve around the end of those 100 posts was town, though. i am thinking that it's easier to look townier when you blend in with the townies instead of trying to lead and ask questions early, so i like kennyk for this also
Hmm... fair enough
The fact CLS changed their tune on Kenny is a really good look for them. Salsa OTOH seems to be in a tunnel on a pretty obvious Town player.
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Post Post #398 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:26 pm

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In post 249, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 83, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:i do kind of want to live longer though, maybe if i leave this post here the wind will carry it to Entellian and Radical Rat
You didn’t use self-meta in the last game with me though, didn’t talk about it earlier because it was ongoing.
If Salsa flips Scum, CLS is almost certainly Town here. Looking for other Town spew as well currently.
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Post Post #399 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:28 pm

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In post 254, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 122, kennyk wrote:@mod: Entellian didn't post for quite some time. Even with the one day timer stop a prodding might be due.

@all other players: No, I didn't ask for a prodding because I miss my fellow mafia player. And no, this was no confession of being mafia. I would never confess that. Or maybe i would in some crazy setup or as part of a really crazy plan in some situations.
What is this!!!! Now you're deliberately playing scummy af!
How can Kenny be open wolfing and doing LAMIST at the same time? This is Scum making a really bad push because they want to look like they are confbiasing but is actually just making a bad push on an ObvTown Kenny.
I was anything worse than you! Anything worse than you was I!

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