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Nero Cain · Post Post #7 (isolation #0) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:13 am

VOTE: titus

scum that's voting me b4 I call her out

Nero Cain · Post Post #11 (isolation #1) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:30 am

what she said.

Nero Cain · Post Post #17 (isolation #2) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:33 am

If we are doing srs votes now

VOTE: mathblade

Nero Cain · Post Post #19 (isolation #3) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:33 am

In post 16, Titus wrote:Math, post 10 was a joke.

don't coach your brother!

Nero Cain · Post Post #24 (isolation #4) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:36 am

In post 18, MathBlade wrote:But yeah Kyo prob town due to how many votes that fast.

dumb

In post 20, MathBlade wrote:I will never be miselimed unless town pulls a massive derp card.

I see you got your pr fakeclaim rdy to go.

Nero Cain · Post Post #30 (isolation #5) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:40 am

In post 23, House wrote:
In post 18, MathBlade wrote:Derp nm I can’t read.

But yeah Kyo prob town due to how many votes that fast.
Disagree, but not sure whether your conclusion is based on an agenda or just faulty logic.

math is clearly using wagon speed which is pretty iffy during RVS. I mean, maybe he's informed and knows that one of the scum voted kyo but otherwise, its seems like a way too early conclusion.

Nero Cain · Post Post #35 (isolation #6) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:47 am

is 32 @ me or Math?

Nero Cain · Post Post #41 (isolation #7) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:50 am

I'm not sure if I should even entertain you.

Nero Cain · Post Post #47 (isolation #8) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:53 am

I mean, silly-ass RVS wagons plop up all the time and there's not scum on them. I think your analysis that scum are voting Kyo is ridiculus.

Nero Cain · Post Post #57 (isolation #9) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:59 am

In post 54, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 47, Nero Cain wrote:I mean, silly-ass RVS wagons plop up all the time and there's not scum on them. I think your analysis that scum are voting Kyo is ridiculus.
It would be if Gamma wasnt scum

Math isn't calling Gamma scum though. Math isn't calling anyone scum on your wagon. Why is Gamma scum?

Nero Cain · Post Post #62 (isolation #10) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:01 am

In post 53, MathBlade wrote:He’s just pissing me off because he’s doing something else I can’t say

how come you can't say?

Nero Cain · Post Post #77 (isolation #11) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:16 am

House is just trying to find something that sticks

Nero Cain · Post Post #83 (isolation #12) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:21 am

In post 81, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 77, Nero Cain wrote:House is just trying to find something that sticks
Could be town doing it though

oh certainly. It just looks a lil' bad FMPOV.

Nero Cain · Post Post #92 (isolation #13) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:27 am

He's not voting you.

throwing your vote around makes it look like you don't have a strong opinion, as an example someone like Cheeky Teeky throws thier vote around as scum.

So I mean it's null but that's why I'm not voting House.

Nero Cain · Post Post #98 (isolation #14) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:32 am

In post 90, MathBlade wrote:Nero was suggesting you voting all over the place was bad. I am asking why when that’s the definition of RVS.

I mean, the game has mostly progressed beyond the "RVS" stage.

Nero Cain · Post Post #108 (isolation #15) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:46 am

In post 101, MathBlade wrote:
In post 100, House wrote:Up!
What if I said I thought DGB and Nero but Nero more likely than DGB?

VOTE: Nero

In post 60, MathBlade wrote:Someone. I will explain later trust me. Saying what I think now kinda tips my hand and if I am wrong it’s bad.

well that didn't take long

Nero Cain · Post Post #113 (isolation #16) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:51 am

what made you go from

In post 45, MathBlade wrote:Nero is in the pissing me off category.

to

In post 101, MathBlade wrote:
VOTE: Nero

???

Nero Cain · Post Post #121 (isolation #17) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:03 pm

dude, you are voting DGB. Maybe in your heart, you are voting Math.

Nero Cain · Post Post #129 (isolation #18) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:15 pm

this is the normal though. no themes allowed!

Nero Cain · Post Post #136 (isolation #19) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:24 pm

I have very little opinion of DGB. I don't think House's case is really great. I mean certainly, scum will hang back and echo posts to blend in but it's not really impossible that DGB is just that's just not as active/slightly behind b/c you know town do agree with other peoples posts.

My only worry is that

In post 128, MathBlade wrote:I disagree that DGB is scum unless Nero is.

^
is your classic bus buddy push town.

Nero Cain · Post Post #140 (isolation #20) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:32 pm

I'm not really sure if this is the bad town Math of legend or just scum. Obviously, I lean scum but why do you think town?

Nero Cain · Post Post #144 (isolation #21) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:38 pm

In post 141, Titus wrote:Because my eyes glaze over.

I don't think this is a good reason to town-read anyone.

Nero Cain · Post Post #152 (isolation #22) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:53 pm

In post 145, MathBlade wrote:I refuse to believe both are playing that badly

how am I playing poorly?

Nero Cain · Post Post #156 (isolation #23) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:59 pm

regardless of alignment, I think Math is lashing out a bit yeah

Nero Cain · Post Post #166 (isolation #24) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:12 pm

Math, if you were scumreading me @ 24. How come you didn't call me scum in 45?

In post 45, MathBlade wrote:Nero is in the pissing me off category.

seems kinda odd to scum read someone and then put them in the "pissing you off" cat, no?

Nero Cain · Post Post #168 (isolation #25) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:14 pm

wasn't scumreading Titus but her willfully avoiding being involved is kinda offputting

Nero Cain · Post Post #186 (isolation #26) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:38 pm

What did I do to "piss you off"?

Don't really understand why you didn't want to advertise that you were scumreading me.

Nero Cain · Post Post #190 (isolation #27) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:40 pm

In post 184, House wrote:Well, I suggest you focus on nero if I'm your only alternative to him.

if I'm your town read why would you want Math to focus on me?

Nero Cain · Post Post #194 (isolation #28) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:46 pm

I mean getting one vote on you and then hinting that you aren't going to be voted out b/c you are a pr just seems like bad`scummy play. Scum are deff more likely to claim pr to avoid getting lunched

Nero Cain · Post Post #197 (isolation #29) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:49 pm

I don't think it's impossible that you are scum. It's somewhat unlikely but not impossible that you and DBG are scum that are fake claiming mason and if you are just a neighbor then shoot one of you is pretty likely to be scum anyways.

Nero Cain · Post Post #205 (isolation #30) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:54 pm

???????

Nero Cain · Post Post #222 (isolation #31) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 2:04 pm

I mean I was asked my thoughts if Math could still be scum so I answered the question. I mean obviously if they are masons then aren't scum but nothing is stopping them from fakeclaiming masons. And while a hood could be all town its still very very likely that there's scum in it. Also lol @ the idea that scum would shoot a mason or neighbor.

Nero Cain · Post Post #238 (isolation #32) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 2:19 pm

I feel like im in a newbie game

Nero Cain · Post Post #242 (isolation #33) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 2:21 pm

airtight lol

Nero Cain · Post Post #248 (isolation #34) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 2:43 pm

If that were true there'd be much better things to claim as to take a shot. If Math/DGB were in a two-person hood then it's pretty likely that 1 of them is scum.

Nero Cain · Post Post #250 (isolation #35) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 2:54 pm

Yes, the golden age of the hood craze. I was there. But I've been here for like half of MS' history.

I'm just saying that in fairly recent history I've seen/been scum in a 2 person hood. Yeah, it's kinda outguessing the mod but yeah.

Nero Cain · Post Post #252 (isolation #36) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 2:59 pm

that's like really not what I'm saying...

Nero Cain · Post Post #258 (isolation #37) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:07 pm

Am I the only one that finds it utterly ridiculous that these 3 think scum would shoot at claimed hoodies/masons?

Nero Cain · Post Post #261 (isolation #38) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:17 pm

In post 253, House wrote:
In post 252, Nero Cain wrote:that's like really not what I'm saying...
That's the natural conclusion to

In post 248, Nero Cain wrote:If Math/DGB were in a two-person hood then it's pretty likely that 1 of them is scum.

I mean I guess. I was just offering my experience in that in recent memory 2 person hoods have contained scum. Outguessing the mod as to the hood composition isn't the greatest play in the world as it's not impossible that a mod could throw us for a loop and make a hood t/t instead of t/s. Would I lunch either DGB or Math today? Absolutely.

Nero Cain · Post Post #264 (isolation #39) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:31 pm

I mean you could still be scum that's trying to tie yourself to me so if you ever went down I'd hopefully go down with you.

Nero Cain · Post Post #266 (isolation #40) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:36 pm

What are your thoughts on Math and his ability to be scum now that he's a hard-claimed neighbor?

Nero Cain · Post Post #268 (isolation #41) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:02 pm

Did they really gambit though?

There's something that's a lil' wonky from FMPOV. If they were trying to get shot then why was Math so mad that I realized that he was hinting @ a pr in 20, wouldn't he want it known that he was a pr? And trying to get shot as a mason claim seems like a futile endeavor. At least claim doc or something scum would absolutely want dead.

Kinda wish someone would post beside us but then again I still have a long way to go.

Nero Cain · Post Post #273 (isolation #42) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:32 pm

that's a long way away and Math has 2 buddies so he doesn't even need to be there. Is your argument that it's a pr claim and it should die at some point? My counter-argument is "why would scum ever shoot a claimed mason/neighbor?" Ok yeah, a mason would have to get shot at some point but not early game as you, him, and DGB are asserting.

What happens if Math/DGB is still alive on like d4? "Well we aren't very powerful prs, of course, we aren't dead" And that's a pretty fair argument. It was a bad "gambit" and thus I'm questioning whether it was actually a botched gambit or just scum trying to look busy.

Nero Cain · Post Post #279 (isolation #43) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:36 pm

In post 272, House wrote:IME, games with Masons don't have investigative roles & vice versa.

p sure this is false

Nero Cain · Post Post #290 (isolation #44) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:53 pm

honestly, I don't like either all that much though DGB does like to pull gambits. It's not a great reason as DGB could certainly do a "gambit" to make it look like their town game but I sorta lean that way and think Math being paranoid might be on the scummy side. But I mean, both of their play isn't great.

Nero Cain · Post Post #294 (isolation #45) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:56 pm

You think MB is scum but you are voting the guy that's been pushing him the hardest? Not sure I buy that.

Nero Cain · Post Post #297 (isolation #46) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:58 pm

thats kinda dumb. I'm not sure if town Math should be worried about an invest.

Nero Cain · Post Post #299 (isolation #47) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:59 pm

Can we like purge the hood plox?

Nero Cain · Post Post #304 (isolation #48) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:04 pm

I think Math is the "scummist" but DGB is just being bad and I thought the OMGUS vote on me was scummy. I just want them both dead.

Nero Cain · Post Post #309 (isolation #49) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:08 pm

In post 0, Dwlee99 wrote:and any PTs are always open.

so either town town or fake town tell

Nero Cain · Post Post #311 (isolation #50) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:10 pm

ALWAYS

Nero Cain · Post Post #314 (isolation #51) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:26 pm

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86404

in this game, I was in a 2 person hood with Dunn. We were both scum but Dunn was a traitor.

obviously, this is a large so maybe you could argue that a mod wouldn't put a s/t hood in a mini, idk.

I coulda swore that I played in another game that had a 2 person s/t hood but I can't find it

Nero Cain · Post Post #316 (isolation #52) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:28 pm

At any rate, I think DGB voting Math's biggest attacker while calling Math scum kinda stinks.

Nero Cain · Post Post #319 (isolation #53) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:34 pm

In post 315, House wrote:I never said it doesn't happen.

I never said you didn't. I was just pointing out where that belief comes from. Yeah, it could be a t/t hood, not impossible but it could easily be S/T. I think DGB voting me for pointing out that there's evidence for S/t hoods is pretty awful.

Math/DGB is there anyone else in the hood?

Nero Cain · Post Post #323 (isolation #54) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:38 pm

In post 318, House wrote:
In post 316, Nero Cain wrote:At any rate, I think DGB voting Math's biggest attacker while calling Math scum kinda stinks.
Would you agree that one neighbor flipping red clears the other?

mostly, yeah. Like that hood I was in was S/S and that's not impossible but Dunn was a traitor so even if it was S/S so if one of Math/DGB were to flip mafia I'd be willing to think the other 2 scum are outside of the hood.

Nero Cain · Post Post #326 (isolation #55) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:46 pm

In post 325, House wrote:Okay. So we're in agreement that the hood has at least 1 town.

well at least 1 not main scum

In post 325, House wrote:instead of find the scum IN the hood?

I'm not really sure which one is the scum. Clearly, if we voted the town one I'd want the other dead but if we voted scum then we can leave the other alone.

Nero Cain · Post Post #328 (isolation #56) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:51 pm

Maybe the person that I'm voting.

Nero Cain · Post Post #329 (isolation #57) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:56 pm

but then I could see a scum DGB just venge vote me for pointing out the 2 ppl hoods likely contain scum. I'm not sure that I really like what you are doing.

Nero Cain · Post Post #331 (isolation #58) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:00 pm

In post 330, House wrote:I'm not a fan of Nero's approach of the neighborhood.

I saw this coming from a mile away.

Nero Cain · Post Post #335 (isolation #59) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:05 pm

I'm not against voting DGB. Why not just ask me instead of basically berating me for not knowing which one is scum.

Nero Cain · Post Post #338 (isolation #60) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:17 pm

if you wanna call it fence-sitting and claim I'm scummy for it fine but both Math and DGB seem scummy to me. Sorry for not being informed and know wich one is scum.

Nero Cain · Post Post #339 (isolation #61) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:20 pm

Who are the scum house? You can only have 3 reads. Not knowing who is scum isn't an excuse for getting anyone wrong.

See, I can do it too.

Nero Cain · Post Post #344 (isolation #62) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:41 pm

Why did you think me or math were scum?

Nero Cain · Post Post #349 (isolation #63) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:47 pm

Is it just you and DGB in the hood?

Nero Cain · Post Post #352 (isolation #64) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:50 pm

just wanted to make sure.

Nero Cain · Post Post #354 (isolation #65) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:51 pm

House is prob that doesn't want to bus hood scum

Nero Cain · Post Post #359 (isolation #66) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:58 pm

YOU FEEL FAKE

Nero Cain · Post Post #362 (isolation #67) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:04 pm

I'm not you.

I was already voting Math and conf bias is a nice drug. If you wanna make the argument that DGB is the hood scum b/c DGB is dual scum reading Math and I and if I were to flip today then DGB could segway to Math then sure I guess but like...I just think Math is scummy *shrugz*

Nero Cain · Post Post #365 (isolation #68) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:05 pm

In post 361, Almost50 wrote:
In post 324, House wrote:You do realize, of course, that I will now have to fabricate an excuse to tunnel you for at least 3 pages, right?
Feel free to do whatever makes you look busy. I am actually wearing a sign on my back that says "Target Me .. Night or Day".

See math, this is the way you claim to be a 3x rolecop. pls shoot him tonight, House.

Nero Cain · Post Post #376 (isolation #69) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:16 pm

We should be killing in the hood today. I don't really care which one we do.

Nero Cain · Post Post #380 (isolation #70) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:17 pm

and once we kill the hood scum lets kill House and Gamma

Nero Cain · Post Post #383 (isolation #71) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:18 pm

In post 379, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 376, Nero Cain wrote:We should be killing in the hood today. I don't really care which one we do.
Fuck no and you’re probably scum for this

good thing I'm town and it means everything I say is the Mith's honest truth

Nero Cain · Post Post #390 (isolation #72) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:22 pm

If Math or DGB flip scum do you think that you and House should not be considered for elimination?

Nero Cain · Post Post #391 (isolation #73) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:23 pm

VOTE: DGB

Nero Cain · Post Post #401 (isolation #74) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:30 pm

Nero Cain (3) - MathBlade, DrippingGoofball, House
ssbm_Kyouko (2) - Gamma Emerald, Almost50
DrippingGoofball (2)- Cat Scratch Fever, Nero Cain
Cat Scatching Fever (1) - Titus
Titus (1) - Dragon of the West
Kerset (1) - ssbm_Kyouko

Not voting (3): Wake88, Kerset, Andresvmb

Nero Cain · Post Post #410 (isolation #75) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:34 pm

In post 406, House wrote:
In post 401, Nero Cain wrote:Nero Cain (3) - MathBlade, DrippingGoofball, House
So, the entire scumteam is voting you?

My, you must be intimidating.

kinda mean. But this is the kind of mocking I could see from scum.

Nero Cain · Post Post #413 (isolation #76) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:34 pm

In post 402, Gamma Emerald wrote:Played a game with a T/T hood just last year

link?

Nero Cain · Post Post #417 (isolation #77) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:37 pm

but I was already voting someone from the hood, although my reason that I voted Math had nothing to do with the hood.

Nero Cain · Post Post #422 (isolation #78) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:39 pm

Gamma's vote is pure shit though. "sowing seeds of paranoia" what a crock

Nero Cain · Post Post #428 (isolation #79) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:42 pm

I wasn't pr fishing.

You blatantly claimed that you were a pr in response to me voting you.

misrepping hunting as shading is pretty bad.

Nero Cain · Post Post #433 (isolation #80) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:47 pm

99% of the time scum will claim pr to save themselves. Your hard hinting that you wouldn't get eliminated b/c you were a pr felt scummy to me. Should I have said anything? eh

but

IF THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE GAMBIT WAS THAT SCUM TO KNOW YOU WERE A PR WHY ARE YOU MAD THAT I "OUTTED" YOU AS A PR?

Nero Cain · Post Post #443 (isolation #81) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:52 pm

In post 434, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 431, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 421, MathBlade wrote:Why do you think Nero is town?
His entire ISO is PR fishing, shading, and downright scumminess unless I missed something while playing civ.
I think he believes in his pushes though. Tbh that's kind of how I've always read Nero- aggression and activity.

If he's scum I kind of think it'll be more evident later on, so I'm not too worried about it.
I feel like Nero just gives off the wrong vibes this game, like he did in Real Folk Blues Rematch when I day bugged him, and like House did in Radio Buzz

Why are you talking about games from years ago? What about that game where you tunneled me and we were both town. Idk I kinda feel like "these games from years ago prove me right" when you said be using more recent examples.

Nero Cain · Post Post #445 (isolation #82) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:53 pm

In post 441, MathBlade wrote:
In post 434, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 431, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 421, MathBlade wrote:Why do you think Nero is town?
His entire ISO is PR fishing, shading, and downright scumminess unless I missed something while playing civ.
I think he believes in his pushes though. Tbh that's kind of how I've always read Nero- aggression and activity.

If he's scum I kind of think it'll be more evident later on, so I'm not too worried about it.
I feel like Nero just gives off the wrong vibes this game, like he did in Real Folk Blues Rematch when I day bugged him, and like House did in Radio Buzz
I kinda don’t think Nero believes in what he’s pushing more stuck and memeing at this point.

I think your are just sore and lashing out. Still a chance you are scum though.

Nero Cain · Post Post #451 (isolation #83) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:56 pm

I mean maybe the wagon on me means that you are being the town beard that you are famous and scum are trying to take advantage but we'll see.

Nero Cain · Post Post #455 (isolation #84) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:58 pm

I'm voting DGB and then when/if DGB flips scum I'm going to target Gamma and House

Nero Cain · Post Post #462 (isolation #85) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:07 pm

Wouldn't put it past CSF and Kyo to town read me for the cred but I highly doubt my wagon is pure.

Nero Cain · Post Post #466 (isolation #86) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:09 pm

if you are town you are like so terrible

Nero Cain · Post Post #473 (isolation #87) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:34 pm

I'm just gonna assume that CSF and Kyo are town. Maybe if Gamma flips scum I might worry that she knew he was scum.

Andresvmb
Wake88
Kerset

haven't even posted yet. There could be scum there, I guess.

Gamma Emerald
DrippingGoofball
House
MathBlade
Titus

I think there absolutely has to be scum in this group. I guess you could say that its 5 people and therefore the odds are pretty good anyways.

Nero Cain · Post Post #475 (isolation #88) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:46 pm

good thing that anyone that has a townblock means that they are def town. In my last game, Cheeky Teeky had like the entire scum team in her town block and I was scumreading it. Just b/c Titus has you guys in yur town bloc does make you all town.

Nero Cain · Post Post #476 (isolation #89) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:48 pm

like im not saying that all my reads are right but arguing that its "problematic" that I don't think Titus' town bloc is all town is kinda scummy man

Nero Cain · Post Post #479 (isolation #90) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:16 pm

I mean that's ok, you could be scum. Like, it's kinda ass that instead of talking about how you misread me viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87368 or viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87032 or viewtopic.php?f=2&t=85512 (I'm sure there's plenty more but I don't care to keep looking) you had to go back

YEARS

ago to finally find a game where you "read" me right. I mean maybe your awesome ability to constantly misread me could make you town thats just keeping up with your M.O. but then again like I said going way way back to basically say "look I can read him!" isn't a great look.

Nero Cain · Post Post #480 (isolation #91) » Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:19 pm

In post 474, Gamma Emerald wrote:The more problematic part there is that’s literally Titus’ townblock, the attack on it wholesale makes me think she was right to make it.

I don't much like this post but I guess I could see a Gamma that thinks I'm scum that's attacking Titus' town bloc and thinks I'm scummy and bad for it but the long-term gain is like...zilch? b/c as soon as I flip town it means everything I wrote was genuine. So maybe this makes him uniformed? Although it is sorta buddying Titus and Titus was town reading me/has me in her town bloc and he could argue "look Nero flipped town Titus' reads are WONDERFUL!"

Nero Cain · Post Post #481 (isolation #92) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:06 am

I don't think my take that a two person hood is likely to contain scum is all that bad. Like sure it could just be t/t but my last two games with 2 person hoods were t/s and s/s so...Gamma played a game with a t/t hood in a mini so eh...but I still don't think that suspecting scum in a hood is this bizarre whacko idea. And its two scummy players one of whom I suspected b4 I even knew they were crumbing neighbors.

Nero Cain · Post Post #482 (isolation #93) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:09 am

I really don't think its "impossible" that I've caught scum Math. I mean maybe scum are using the sound of his whine to build my wagon but I don't feel like Math is that townie via play and he can clearly be scum as a nieghbor.

In post 9, MathBlade wrote:Always remember this people. If things look hard just remember you got this! Just take things one step at a time and keep things in perspective

I lowkey suspected Math b/c I think scum like to make these cheery friendly posts to make themselves likable.

In post 15, MathBlade wrote:I agree the votes are weird.

it's possible that I could have jumped the gun here b/c Math doesn't get things sometimes but I think there's some possible scum motivation in agreeing with Titus and falsely accusing me of chainsaw defending.

In post 18, MathBlade wrote:But yeah Kyo prob town due to how many votes that fast.

using 3 RVS votes as proof that scum jumped on is silly and makes no sense unless Math is informed.

In post 52, MathBlade wrote:
In post 46, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 40, MathBlade wrote:Not sure who yet. Just remembered seeing a bunch of Kyo votes.

Don’t have a chance to see who the scum is but latter votes more likely.
Has anyone actually done a statistical analysis of RVS wagons?
Done it to scientific rigor, no.
Based on memory yes.
The only game I know of that breaks it is the intentional bus by Umlaut v Flubber in a recent game I had with Titus.

my gut reaction was that this was scummy b/c it's taking a horrible and wrong point and acting like it's some big brain analysis.
like just based on common sense I think this is gonna be a big no.

tbf though viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87284 had an RVS wagon on town and scum was the third vote.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87368 had an RVS wagon on town DGB with all town voting and then an RVS wagon on town Nero with all town voting. There was a wagon on town t3 that was t/s/t though

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87222 had an RVS wagon on 2 different townies that were both t/s wagons.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87211 had an all town RVS wagon on town DW

those are the last completed normal games ( I only read the first few pages.) and yeah obv there were some RVS wagons with scum on them so maybe its a little more common than I thought but its still not EVERY RVS wagon. Its also going to be very dependent on who is online. So I don't really like Math talking in absolutes.

but here's the other problem. Math wasn't actually pushing anyone for this. I think is a big fat lie when he says "Don’t have a chance to see who the scum" It was 3 votes and Math has been pretty active. So Math's words and actions don't line up.

In post 20, MathBlade wrote:I will never be miselimed unless town pulls a massive derp card.

Did I jump the gun here too? If Math is scum I expect they'd claim a pr. I pretty much always expect scum to claim pr to get out of an early lunch. So Math hard hinting that they were a pr felt very scummy to me. And it was like one vote so why are you freaking the fuck out?

"get off me I'm a pr!" It just all felt very scummy to me. I did not get the crumb in 9.

In post 169, MathBlade wrote:
In post 166, Nero Cain wrote:Math, if you were scumreading me @ 24. How come you didn't call me scum in 45?

In post 45, MathBlade wrote:Nero is in the pissing me off category.
seems kinda odd to scum read someone and then put them in the "pissing you off" cat, no?
Because what you did did piss me off and I didn’t want to go “neon sign here”.

I feel like this is a very important chain of events. Firstly Math's vote on me is a delayed OMGUS and I think that's a bit on the scummy side. And the language in 45 is bad. I feel like if Math is town he just called me scum instead of using whishy-washy language like "pissing off" And the "I didn't want to advertise that I was scum reading you." in 169 also doesn't make any sense from a town POV.

In post 101, MathBlade wrote:What if I said I thought DGB and Nero but Nero more likely than DGB?

In post 128, MathBlade wrote:I disagree that DGB is scum unless Nero is.

Math is trying really hard to fit me and DGB together and seems very scummy to me. 128 looks like Math trying to use my town flip to get DGB town cred.

Nero Cain · Post Post #484 (isolation #94) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:21 am

this is kinda where I'm at at the moment. I'm calling Wake the scummiest of the non posters since he was around earlier and didn't post. If Gamma is scum I don't think Titus is scum. I highly doubt all 4 votes on me are from town and House/Math/DGB all seem very scummy to me. Consider my town flip a guilty on House.

Cat Scratch Fever
ssbm_Kyouko
Dragon of the West
Almost50
Andresvmb
Kerset
Titus
Gamma Emerald
Wake88
DrippingGoofball
MathBlade
House

Nero Cain · Post Post #485 (isolation #95) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:28 am

kinda tired and lazy but there's some posting where Gamma and House are defending each other so that's a possible connection.

Nero Cain · Post Post #533 (isolation #96) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:16 am

I mean, you and dre' are prob just right about gamma as 498 and 521 are very underwhelming reactions to getting wagoned.

In post 496, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:House's talk about Nero pushing for a hood lim because Nero is informed of T/T, if anything, could be seen as House's own TMI spewing into the thread in order to frame up Nero on any hood lims or NKs.

While possible, I still feel like it's very likely that one of DGB/Math is scum and I might be leaning DGB over Math. But sure, we can vote Gamma House and let our prs figure out which is the hood scum, if any.

Nero Cain · Post Post #538 (isolation #97) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:42 am

In post 327, House wrote:Well, you're throwing shade at both. Which one is most likely to be scum from your perspective?

In post 330, House wrote:That's unfortunate. I was trying to give you an opening to reconsider your stance.

In post 334, House wrote:I was hoping you were going to switch your vote to DGB, given your recent shading of it that I was on board with.

In post 415, Gamma Emerald wrote:The amount of time it took him to vote DGB is unreal

here's House and Gamma attacking me over voting the wrong hoodie and I think that's a thing scum do. "Like oh you aren't voting my buddy, you are so scummy." So I'm leaning DGB is the scum in the hood.

Nero Cain · Post Post #540 (isolation #98) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:46 am

Also, while I don't think the gambit was great or anything Math at least tried to keep it up and WIFOM. DGB hard claiming neighbors in 257 and ending any possibility that they get shot is pretty scummy I feel.

Nero Cain · Post Post #542 (isolation #99) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:48 am

VOTE: gamma

Nero Cain · Post Post #543 (isolation #100) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:50 am

In post 541, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 538, Nero Cain wrote:here's House and Gamma attacking me over voting the wrong hoodie and I think that's a thing scum do. "Like oh you aren't voting my buddy, you are so scummy." So I'm leaning DGB is the scum in the hood.
I feel like there’s another wording flub in here

Who gives a shit?

Nero Cain · Post Post #556 (isolation #101) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:21 am

In post 289, DrippingGoofball wrote:Then MB was concerned about, er, what's that role that checks if you have a PT? He worried that such a role would get a false positive if we were investigated.

This sorta bothers me though. Don't really get why Math didn't want to be investigated. You just claim you are in a hood with DGB. You might get the "there's prob scum in the hood" suspicion. So Math is being really self conscious here.

Nero Cain · Post Post #558 (isolation #102) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:35 am

I don't really think you are all that great as scum but hey w/e

Nero Cain · Post Post #561 (isolation #103) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:41 am

winrate means very little and I think winning as scum has more to do with bad town play. When you are scum I get you pretty ez though.

In post 557, MathBlade wrote:I still think you’re scum here Nero.

this is why you are still a level 3 player

Nero Cain · Post Post #562 (isolation #104) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:44 am

especially when you are arguing that you are a shit town player but you are still bullheaded enough to assume that you are right but I guess that's the difference between us.

Nero Cain · Post Post #565 (isolation #105) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:52 am

how am I creating "bad town play"?

the rest of your post is nonsense

Nero Cain · Post Post #566 (isolation #106) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:52 am

you will never fucking get better

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:00 am

In post 563, MathBlade wrote:The fact you see scum wins are because bad town is very telling especially if you’re scum as I think you are.

like this?

I mean Jesus, it's an opinion on gameplay and you somehow think it's AI.

You have like the worst case of conf biasness ever.

Who even are your town reads? House, DGB, Gamma? If they aren't why not sheep your town reads?

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:01 am

In post 567, Gamma Emerald wrote:M says this conversation ends now.

how are you talking to him?

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:23 am

In post 571, MathBlade wrote:How is intentionally digging up old arguments helping you sort DGB or anyone?

its not and im not doing that

In post 571, MathBlade wrote:You want me to believe you are town yet you are doing zero hunting.

this is like super not true

In post 571, MathBlade wrote:You created bad town play by fishing and are riling me up to argue with you.

dude, I voted you, and you puffed up your chest and said that you weren't going to be the d1 elim b/c you were a pr. That's not me fishing thats you freaking the fuck out over 1 vote.

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:25 am

In post 573, MathBlade wrote:Dude has zero interest in hunting.

yeah, keep lying about this. It really makes me glad that I was willing to reconsider.

Who are you town reads? (2nd time I', asking)

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:27 am

that's very selective

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:28 am

well i missed it, pls requote or type it again

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:40 am

Ima take a break from this game for a bit but if you are town Math and I get flipped today then you don't get to use the "Nero played poorly" excuse for flipping town Nero b/c I didn't.

Nero Cain · Post Post #672 (isolation #114) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:07 pm

In post 589, House wrote:
In post 540, Nero Cain wrote:Also, while I don't think the gambit was great or anything Math at least tried to keep it up and WIFOM. DGB hard claiming neighbors in 257 and ending any possibility that they get shot is pretty scummy I feel.
TBF, I am the one that said they're not Masons, which was based on the amount of waffling and DGB shading that Math was doing

I know but you were just some rando outsider, it wasn't until DBG shut down the idea that they could be masons that their gambit was nullified.

In post 596, House wrote:TIL Nero doesn't honestly scumread Math
In post 568, Nero Cain wrote: You have like the worst case of conf biasness ever.
Scum doesn't confbias in singleball because they KNOW who's town and who's not.

good post!

except

In post 533, Nero Cain wrote:While possible, I still feel like it's very likely that one of DGB/Math is scum and
I might be leaning DGB over Math

In post 538, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 327, House wrote:Well, you're throwing shade at both. Which one is most likely to be scum from your perspective?

In post 330, House wrote:That's unfortunate. I was trying to give you an opening to reconsider your stance.

In post 334, House wrote:I was hoping you were going to switch your vote to DGB, given your recent shading of it that I was on board with.

In post 415, Gamma Emerald wrote:The amount of time it took him to vote DGB is unreal
here's House and Gamma attacking me over voting the wrong hoodie and I think that's a thing scum do. "Like oh you aren't voting my buddy, you are so scummy." So I'm leaning DGB is the scum in the hood.

You could say that you missed these posts but to me it just looks like cherry picking and egging Math on.

In post 613, Gamma Emerald wrote:Only person I see as
possible
scum on it rn is Nero

look at this chump gearing up for my town flip

In post 614, House wrote:
In post 613, Gamma Emerald wrote:Only person I see as possible scum on it rn is Nero
Watch out, hell accuse you of OMGUS and we'll get wrapped up in a chicken or egg debate.

you mock but it only hides your pain.

I'm "OMGUSing" Gamma. I didn't really suspect him until he voted me and this is Andre's and kyo's read that I'm sheeping b/c I agree.

Nero Cain · Post Post #673 (isolation #115) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:08 pm

p sure House is just scum

Nero Cain · Post Post #677 (isolation #116) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 6:26 pm

In post 630, Gamma Emerald wrote:My case isn’t built around OMGUS, it’s built around the fact that Nero immediately struck the wrong tonal chord for me and I have enough meta with him to know he’s scum for it.

In post 632, Gamma Emerald wrote:I have a hell of a lot more experience with Nero than I do with you. I feel secure in calling Burden of Proficiency.

A few things. This is like the third game in a row where you have used "tone" to scumread me with and I've been scum in none of them. 2nd, the person who has played with me the most has been Titus.

In post 655, Dragon of the West wrote:Nero - honestly, Nero is a mystery to me. Every game he seems to have a tinfoil paranoia hat on that makes no sense to me and sounds like he's just slinging conspiracy theories around and I get paranoid he's scum and then he ends up being town and his theories end up being right.

heh, this is a pretty funny and accurate pov.

In post 655, Dragon of the West wrote:MathBlade - scumlean; I think if one of DGB or MathBlade is scum, it's this slot. Paranoia about getting investigated, "botching" the crumb/claim and then using that to cast suspicion on DGB seemed off and kinda scummy. I think they backtracked their DGB read when they realized it might get them killed either before DGB or right after

I'd pl math but I'm not so sure that they are team scum. Other than the Paranoia thing I'm not sure that this happened.

Nero Cain · Post Post #688 (isolation #117) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:26 pm

Nero Cain · Post Post #690 (isolation #118) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:51 pm

for me? quanity

I get scum read for "tone" all the time and its never right. alot of tone deaf ppl on this site

Nero Cain · Post Post #691 (isolation #119) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:05 pm

Einstein said it best: Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Gamma scumreading me on tone over and over again but never being right is either horrible town play or scum that's trying to mimic his town game. And in the fact that he distancing himself from my flip by calling me "possible scum" makes him look like scum.

Nero Cain · Post Post #693 (isolation #120) » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:20 pm

stay salty, Gamma

Nero Cain · Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:51 pm

I'm just spitballing here but how 'bout we wagon a guy who is "tone" reading a guy for the umpteenth time and hasn't learned his lesson yet?

So his scumread is prob faked.

Also, he promised a catchup and all he could muster was a continuation of a push on me. Guy is so stuck and won't flail out.

Nero Cain · Post Post #748 (isolation #122) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:16 am

too little too late, Gamma

Nero Cain · Post Post #753 (isolation #123) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:24 am

In post 749, Gamma Emerald wrote:I’m basically doing a full 180 on you, what the fuck more do you want?

you to die

Nero Cain · Post Post #754 (isolation #124) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:25 am

In post 716, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 687, MathBlade wrote:Ooh hey it’s an actual reason! Something quantifiable!

VOTE: Unvote
This seems like a weird reason to drop the tunnel

agree. Also, Math was scumreading A50 earlier (he's even voting him now) so its a bit wonky that he's

LISTENING

to his scum read.

Nero Cain · Post Post #756 (isolation #125) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:25 am

NO HUGGING GAMMA!

Nero Cain · Post Post #761 (isolation #126) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:28 am

In post 478, Dwlee99 wrote:Nero Cain (4) - MathBlade, DrippingGoofball, House, Gamma Emerald

we are killing one of these 4. stop being shit with your votes and vote one of them.

Nero Cain · Post Post #762 (isolation #127) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:28 am

In post 759, Gamma Emerald wrote:go fuck yourself nero. I'm DONE with you.

feels kinda fake.

Nero Cain · Post Post #772 (isolation #128) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:37 am

see, even though I think DGB is a little scummy I do agree that it feels like a bit of a trap that you claimed you wouldn't be eliminated today b/c you were a pr and when I pointed out that prematurely claiming pr as a defense was scummy you then started with "Nero is fishing" as nasuem

Nero Cain · Post Post #774 (isolation #129) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:39 am

I mean, in fairness I just think Gamma is scum and guy is throwing a hissy fit and is rage quitting :/

Nero Cain · Post Post #779 (isolation #130) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:44 am

In post 776, Titus wrote:Oh never voting Gamma

b/c super emo gamma is town?

Nero Cain · Post Post #781 (isolation #131) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:47 am

my reads are bad or his reads are bad?

Nero Cain · Post Post #784 (isolation #132) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:56 am

the fuck I was. I'm just playing the game and thought Gamma was scum and didn't necessarily believe him that he was rethinking this game.

Nero Cain · Post Post #791 (isolation #133) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:14 am

In post 786, MathBlade wrote:You’re accusing Gamma of strategically replacing out here.

no im really not. gamma got mad and replaced out. It's a quantitative fact. I am

NOT

making the argument that Gamma replaced out for strat.

Nero Cain · Post Post #795 (isolation #134) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:45 am

I just think Gamma is scum

^
is what I think

guy is throwing a hissy fit and is rage quitting

^
is what he did

just b/c I feel/felt like the slot is scum doesn't mean I'm accusing him of replacing out so he doesn't get eliminated today.

I feel like you and Kerset claiming that I'm being toxic and trying to paint me as a bad guy is pretty slimy and scummy

Nero Cain · Post Post #796 (isolation #135) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:50 am

also, Gamma has been tunneling me in countless games using the same "tone read" and was proven wrong over and over again. Him thoughtlessly doing it again either means that he's not learning from his mistakes or he's just scum that plopped down a vote on what he felt was a safe wagon. He doesn't get to tunnel me and then get mad when I tunnel him back.

Nero Cain · Post Post #803 (isolation #136) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:16 am

I don't really know about any real-life stuff but in 749 he's claiming that he's re-evaluating and then when I state that I'm still scum reading him and don't necessarily believe that he's town re-thinking the game vs. scum that has to get off my wagon b/c it's dying, he gets mad at me.

It seems very silly to me that he's "mad" at me for continuing to think his slot is scum. If you want to make the argument that b/c of real-life he's in a dark emotional state and he was frustrated that I was still scum reading him and that's why he lashed out then sure I guess but its not toxic.

Nero Cain · Post Post #805 (isolation #137) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:31 am

In post 753, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 749, Gamma Emerald wrote:I’m basically doing a full 180 on you, what the fuck more do you want?
you to die

I mean obviously, I'm not wishing IRL death on him and I'm just still scum reading his slot.

In post 759, Gamma Emerald wrote:go fuck yourself nero. I'm DONE with you.

just seems over the top so I said it seemed fake to me. Also, the guy tunneled me for 30 fucking pages so he doesn't get to take the moral high ground.

Nero Cain · Post Post #811 (isolation #138) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:04 am

y Titus? b/c she's kinda active lurking?

Nero Cain · Post Post #816 (isolation #139) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:25 am

In post 812, DrippingGoofball wrote:Bulk OMGUS

ok sure but that doesn't mean all 4 of you are town and I actually pushed that there's hood scum b4 you even voted me :/

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:51 am

In post 817, Titus wrote:Nero pushing people beyond their limits is town Nero. Nero just has terrible reads this game. Resuming catch up soon.

Gamma getting upset that I was still scum reading him is his own fault. I can buy that he's maybe in a not good space right now and that's why he reacted the way he did but thats not my fault.

In post 819, MathBlade wrote:Are me? Kerset? DGB? Ythan? Mod all scum?
I agree, if you’re town, scum maybe joining in.
But 4 scum mini normals are not normal.

This post is ridiculous. Why in the world would I think that the mod is scum? I think you and DGB are scummy yeah. And Ythan.

no one has joined the gamma/ythan wagon after me except House so do you know think he's scum? Is Andre scum? kyo?

I'm fairly certain that 4 scum in a mini has been done b4 but I never was pushing that.

In post 827, Titus wrote:
In post 825, MathBlade wrote:
In post 824, Titus wrote:I don't like how you're objecting to my procedure rather than the substance of what I said.
The substance is you townread Nero because he pushed someone.

It doesn’t address the how.
There’s nothing there it’s empty.
It does. Pushing someone to the point where they break is town Nero. It says how hard he does it.

titus is prob speaking from experience here b/c I scum read her in a game and she got mad that she was being scum read. And then scum came in and said I was being toxic and ya know whiteknighted her. Wich is pretty much what you and DGB are doing.

Also in Star Wars: RI I was scumreading Titus and Mastina and they both got mad but the mod of the game told me that he didn't think I did anything wrong.

If getting scumread frustrates you then maybe mafia isn't the game for you. Mafia, in and of itself, is low key toxic.

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:03 am

Gamma pushed me and refused to fucking budge even when I told him that his reasoning was wrong and pointed out that his reasoning had been proven wrong several times b4. He doesn't get to whine and cry that I didn't believe him.

IDK what's going on with him and if he's going through something then I feel for him and sure maybe his emotions just filtered into the game but just scumreading a guy and not believing that a reaction was genuine isn't toxic.

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:08 am

In post 817, Titus wrote:Nero just has terrible reads this game.

The only way to know this is if you are scum.

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:33 am

like Math tunneling me and saying stupid as fuck shit like "Nero needs the miselim from Gamma" is just as toxic but you don't see me flying off the handle.

Nero Cain · Post Post #910 (isolation #144) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:41 pm

I really don't care if 100% of the people (you, DGB, and House) that were on my wagon earlier and that I want to vote in want to PL me. In fact its actully pretty bad. You could always just ignore me and find scum but naw that would be a protown move.

In post 866, MathBlade wrote:Let’s assume for case and point that I am scum and you’re right. (You’re not but let’s roll with it)
What you’ve done is torpedo any shot of elimming me here. You’ve taken the power out of your sails.

????

I think House, DGB and Gamma/ythan are scummy and thats the ones I want dead. I'd just pl you.

In post 876, MathBlade wrote:Toxicity is more an attack on the person than the play.

how was I personally attacking Gamma?

Dude said he was doing a 180 on me and implied that I should stop scumreading him. I tell him that I am still scumreading him then he tells me to fuck off. I didn't think it was a good reaction and I said so. Its in no way shape or form an attack on Gamma.

In post 876, MathBlade wrote:like “No hugging Gamma” are toxic because it’s about HIM not his play.

IF

this is what it was about then I still wasn't being "toxic" b/c I was joking and thought it was a funny reply to 755 but it makes more sense that you guys misinterpreted that or it's possible that 759 was a reaction to 755 instead of 753.

Nero Cain · Post Post #916 (isolation #145) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:46 pm

Math, I didn't out you. I voted you then you said you weren't going to be eliminated b/c u were a pr.

Nero Cain · Post Post #921 (isolation #146) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:48 pm

In post 917, MathBlade wrote:Nero has no interest in learning

shut up

Nero Cain · Post Post #927 (isolation #147) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:51 pm

In post 922, House wrote:
In post 921, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 917, MathBlade wrote:Nero has no interest in learning
shut up
He's not wrong.

i mean not really but hey pocket the scum helper more

Nero Cain · Post Post #929 (isolation #148) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:53 pm

In post 920, MathBlade wrote:I said town would be stupid which I do as a VT and a PR

It really seems like a hard pr hint though.

Nero Cain · Post Post #932 (isolation #149) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:54 pm

RE: Gamma being my counterwagon.

Who is the scum pushing this if its a CW to scum Nero?

Nero Cain · Post Post #935 (isolation #150) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:56 pm

In post 930, House wrote:
In post 928, Titus wrote:Nero, look at DotW ISO please.
I refuse to be on any wagon with him.

I won't stop you from trying to save Ythan.

Nero Cain · Post Post #938 (isolation #151) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:01 pm

In post 934, MathBlade wrote:
In post 932, Nero Cain wrote:RE: Gamma being my counterwagon.

Who is the scum pushing this if its a CW to scum Nero?
You

So why just me? Why wouldn't my buddies join and force Gamma to claim?

I don't think you are thinking about this game rationally.

Nero Cain · Post Post #939 (isolation #152) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:02 pm

I didn't do shit to Gamma. At best I misunderstood something.

Nero Cain · Post Post #951 (isolation #153) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:14 pm

In post 940, MathBlade wrote:You asked pushing not on.

schematics yuck

Nero Cain · Post Post #958 (isolation #154) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:23 pm

In post 917, MathBlade wrote:as I want is an antitown move. I really think he’s scum

if you think im scum why is it anti-town to try to pl me?

Nero Cain · Post Post #961 (isolation #155) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:25 pm

In post 960, House wrote:It's easy for scum to hide behind pl to
push a miselim

ty for TMIing me

Nero Cain · Post Post #965 (isolation #156) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:29 pm

I don't see what you knowing that I'm a miselim has to do with you voting Gamma. Are you suggesting that I should town read an active lurk Ythan b/c you were voting him?

Nero Cain · Post Post #970 (isolation #157) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:34 pm

In post 967, House wrote:I have never voted Ythan.

gamma is ythan

In post 968, MathBlade wrote:Ythan isn’t an active lurk.

it's just that all his posts that are "bookmark" feel like trying to inflate his post count and show us how active he is and that he's deff reading

Nero Cain · Post Post #974 (isolation #158) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:36 pm

In post 967, House wrote:Players who consider someone town automatically assume they're a miselim.

Why would you agree to pl me if you thought that? I think you and DBG are just scum hiding behind the "Nero is toxic" bullshit

Nero Cain · Post Post #983 (isolation #159) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:38 pm

I'm only toxic if you are scum

Nero Cain · Post Post #998 (isolation #160) » Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:46 pm

In post 986, House wrote:
In post 983, Nero Cain wrote:I'm only toxic if you are scum
You're toxic because you treat people like crap.

End of story.

I mean no. I guess I could see ppl misinterpret "no hugging gamma" as not a joke and you thought that I was saying gamma isn't deserving of love or affection and yeah if that was true then sure.

THIS IS MY LAST POST ON THE SUBJECT.

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:28 pm

he's catching up, chill the fuck out

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:31 pm

In post 1062, MathBlade wrote:Annoyed frustrated yes but chill

y r u annoyed?

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:39 pm

In post 1070, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1067, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1062, MathBlade wrote:Annoyed frustrated yes but chill
y r u annoyed?
Because you keep asking silly questions instead of scumhunting.

I am very obviously town. The entire game has told you that.

I really really want to policy you but it’s antitown to do so.

Are you like unable to read or something? This is like the 3rd or 4th post where you keep saying that im scumreading you but I've said long long ago that if there's hood scum its DGB.

I've been doing plenty of scumhunting. Asking questions is part of that.

YOU however are calling me scum but are the one thats saying its "antitown" to lim scum.

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:48 pm

she's just making a joke...maybe a lil' cringe but it's not malicious. lighten the fuck up.

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:50 pm

In post 1078, MathBlade wrote:It is antitown to shove through your elim when no one wants it.

not if you think I'm scum. Its just that you can't get my elimination today. Though there is something to be said for listening to others and maybe goinh "hrmmmm players that have played with Nero more aren't scumreading him so maybe im wrong."

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:54 pm

In post 1096, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I think wake's response to House asking for a read on the last 50 posts of House's is faked.

idk, I think I kinda like it? It's a bit of a silly request from House I thought

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:00 pm

gimmie a reads list, ythan.

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:05 pm

In post 1109, Ythan wrote:
In post 1104, Nero Cain wrote:gimmie a reads list, ythan.
What genres do you like?

a reads list of the players in the game

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:13 pm

naw, Wake catching up. House wanting him t drop what he was doing and read 1/4 of his ISO was dumb. Houses "I don't like Wake's attitude." sounds kinda fabricated.

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:15 pm

have we learned nothing tonight? tone reads are fucking junk.

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:15 pm

In post 1148, Wake1 wrote:
In post 376, Nero Cain wrote:We should be killing in the hood today. I don't really care which one we do.
Do you still think this or no?

yes, rather DBG than Math but I'm ok pling Math

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:17 pm

I don't think DGB has done any hunting. It's just been defend and push Nero.

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:27 pm

In post 1154, Wake1 wrote:What do you think on Almost50, currently?

I think he's an old man.

When he's been scum with me recently he'd like barely post so I was sorta agreeing with Math earlier that he could maybe be scum.

I could just be getting pocketed here but I lowkey town read 684 He has this thing where he thinks my initial reads lists are more accurate than my later reads lists.

I think a scum50 might be more careful with 977 and 1023

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:39 pm

In post 1160, Wake1 wrote:Townblocs are toxic for Town.

is this sarcasm?

Do you have any thoughts on the hood?

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:47 pm

the hood is real according to Math/DBG

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:55 pm

I was sorta waiting till you were done so I could just do it all in one go but....

In post 797, Ythan wrote:
In post 30, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 23, House wrote:
In post 18, MathBlade wrote:Derp nm I can’t read.

But yeah Kyo prob town due to how many votes that fast.
Disagree, but not sure whether your conclusion is based on an agenda or just faulty logic.
math is clearly using wagon speed which is pretty iffy during RVS. I mean, maybe he's informed and knows that one of the scum voted kyo but otherwise, its seems like a way too early conclusion.
Informed of a scum's identity? This is not a legitimate thought.

I realize that this is your first mafia game ever but you see when one is scum they tend to know the other scum. So when I was writing this I was worried that Math was scum that knew scum was voting kyo. In hindsight, I think he thought DGB was the scum voting kyo. He's town reading both Gamma and DGB now so I guess he thinks CSF is scum.

In post 1128, Ythan wrote:
In post 596, House wrote:TIL Nero doesn't honestly scumread Math
In post 568, Nero Cain wrote: You have like the worst case of conf biasness ever.
Scum doesn't confbias in singleball because they KNOW who's town and who's not.
Hey it's my town read dragging my scum read

Did you see my explanation where House ignored/cherry picked posts?

In post 1146, Ythan wrote:I already have more posts than five players that's not good.

In post 1147, Ythan wrote:More than the bottom three combined even!

in fairness guy you could have combined a bunch of those one liners into a bigger post and you did a decemt ammount of inflation posts like

In post 834, Ythan wrote:That's not just a random post this time though.

In post 833, Ythan wrote:Bookmarked

In post 821, Ythan wrote:Just marking my place with a random post I don't have anything funny to say.

and other fluff.

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:00 pm

fluff it up ker

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:03 pm

In post 1175, Kerset wrote:Nero how does regular wake-house relation look like?

Why are you asking me?

I've played with each like once and it was YEARS ago.

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:12 pm

Well, I think House is scummy and his telling Wake to drop his catchup and read 1/4 of his ISO was dumb. I haven't played with them enough to tell you what their "normal" interaction is but I like Wake so far.

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:23 pm

what makes you feel like its a S/S interaction rather than T/T or S/T?

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:20 pm

Who'd want to be in your town bloc anyways

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:46 pm

How sad is it that I have to use smilies to convey a joke b/c some ppl are too dumb to get them?

Nero Cain · Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:49 pm

actually I shouldn't have said that but I'm still fucking livid

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:21 am

I'd vastly prefer DGB/ythan/math over Titus. I mean maybe Titus is just scum that knows my reads are bad instead of being town that is talking out of her ass but she's sorta null town for me.

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:25 am

says the person thats voted nothing but town today.

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:33 am

In post 1248, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Titus is diverting attention from the Gamma/Ythan wagon because they are buddies and Titus is not above defending a buddy as scum

true but I had sort of felt like Gamma getting all pissy that I wasn't trusting Titus' town bloc like the gospel kinda made me feel like he was just whiteknighting.

Also, DGB has only voted kyo and I. So feels a bit like scum not wanting to flail out.

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:46 am

In post 1262, Ythan wrote:
In post 1257, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:You were E-3 when you replaced in. So if you would continue reading and catch up completely you wouldn't need to ask this.
Oh look you're acknowledging that I'm not caught up. Yeah fuck off.

y not just catch up?

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:53 am

sure man, im just saying that you are around and posting while not catching up and lashing out at ppl. If you are busy/at work you could have just said that instead of being low key toxic and telling ppl to "fuck off"

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:01 am

math keeps calling DGB scum but its

always

vote not DBG

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:21 am

Wouldn't Math be more like you in this scenerio? I mean Math is the one that went along with the gambit. Although DGB is the one that ended the gambit.

In post 289, DrippingGoofball wrote:I'm not very good at reading Nero, so I said I wasn't going to do this on Day 1.

In post 591, DrippingGoofball wrote:I felt I was being manipulated into scumrrading Nero a bit

but yeah this is pretty poor from DBG,

I actually didn't really like 656 from House. It's a bit self-conscious and kinda hypocritical. He's getting mad @ Dragon for sharing most of the same reads but he's doing the same thing that Dragon is supposedly doing. Also, I think House is full of shit b/c he was supposedly was "mind-melding" with me to scum reading me. (He's back to town reading me now though) I think a loose conviction and super mailable reads are prob from scum.

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:09 am

VOTE: house

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:54 am

being a self-described "bad player" doesn't excuse your lack of engagement with the thread.

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:09 am

I rather vote you than DOTW

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:35 am

In post 1276, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1247, Nero Cain wrote:says the person thats voted nothing but town today.

In post 1271, Nero Cain wrote:math keeps calling DGB scum but its
always
vote not DBG
I've been on a town-rolling streak like 90%, and Nero has been hounding me with rubbish day 1 scum reads in every game. His failure rate on me is literally 90%. And he's failing again.

roll statistics have no bearing on your ability to roll scum in this game.

A mod's use of a hood is WIFOM. There have been all town hoods, scum/scum hoods, town/scum hoods. Given that in my recent games I've played with a S/S hood and a T/S hood I felt like it was fairly likely that it was following the trend and putting scum in a 2 person hood and therefore we'd have a 50% chance of eliminating scum in you and math today. Suspecting that scum is in the hood has been a thing since I joined the site and it seemed odd to me that no one else was even suspicious.

I didn't much like your OMGUS vote on me and I think you've been useless but maybe it's intentional. Also felt like you calling Math scum while voting me was pretty bad.

Math constantly calling you scum but it always being with the qualifier of "if X is scum" also was pinging me but maybe there's something going on that I didn't really consider. And there's at most 1 scum between the 2 of you anways so if I haven't game solved by like d4 and neither of you are dead then I prob want your flip.

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:53 am

I mean maybe it was just a bunch of bad town that wagoned me and I'm just way off base here and scum is some combination of Kerset, House, Titus, and Andre idk.

If I were to just assume that math/DGB freaked the fuck out for reasons and Gamma was

In post 308, Gamma Emerald wrote: VOTE: Nero Cain
I’m not super sold on this but this doesn’t feel like his town game per se, and I feel like in recent games it’s become more of a stark contrast between his town and scum games

In post 375, Gamma Emerald wrote:
It
doesn’t carry much of the energy I remember from LN 230 or 231

In post 0, TemporalLich wrote:Nero Cain, Town Strongman-Finder, survives and wins

this reiteration of Gamma then maybe House was the only scum on my wagon.

(also dude misgendered me and called me an it

)

SSBM was also saying there's there's at most 1 scum on my wagon and I think that might point to an SSBM-House team.

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:54 am

In post 486, Andresvmb wrote:Anyway, this is probably one of those games where I’ll voice my opinion, but I’m not going to lead anyone anywhere

didn't really like this line.

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:00 pm

VOTE: Titus

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:18 pm

get fucked scum.

Nero Cain · Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:09 pm

I mean, the S/S hood was 1 mafia and 1 traitor so in the event that Math/DGB was S/S the traitor should be left alone b/c it dies once main scum are killed.