Mini 2240: SCP Upick (SCP 682 Ending)

[SCP 999]

meh i'm not going to claim until e-1

-infinity

Whats the point?? Ur never dying this game always unless a scum whos spewed you town flips - there's 0 drawback here. And if you and i get spewed town you die anyways bc im unkillable

[SCP 999]

Losing is fairly unfun, i agree.
I'm just going to ignore your emotional manipulation because the constsnt complaints dont tell me your alignment only that my claim that you're scum frustrates you.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like, I'm not weaponizing shit against you Koba, and when I am revealed to be town at the end of this game, you'll realize that oops, LLD is really just frustrated and not enjoying playing with me!

Or maybe you won't and you'll convince yourself that there's nothing wrong with you and it's just me doing something instead. I guess that can happen to. I'm making a request while still interacting with you because I want to be allowed to enjoy this game too.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Losing is fairly unfun, i agree.
I'm just going to ignore your emotional manipulation because the constsnt complaints dont tell me your alignment only that my claim that you're scum frustrates you.

Okay, how about this.

If I'm scum after this game, I'll apologize to you for using this as a form of weaponized emotional manipulation against you.

And if I'm town at the end of this game, I want you to apologize for not taking my frankly out of game concerns with your play seriously, and take a serious look at how you interact with people and reflect.

Deal?

[SCP 999]

My play hadn't been scummy.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

This isn't an alignment bet, this is just "if you can split this from my alignment this game, let's discuss this after the game when my alignment is proven and you can't use that as a reason to ignore my concerns."

Okay?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

sorry, that should say "can't split this from my alignment this game"

[SCP 999]

You have demonstrated a good awareness of whats gone on thus far this game - which suggests up until i started to shine a light youve tried going under the radar.
That's definitely not towny.

[Infinity Zero]

meh i'm not going to claim until e-1

-infinity

Whats the point?? Ur never dying this game always unless a scum whos spewed you town flips - there's 0 drawback here. And if you and i get spewed town you die anyways bc im unkillable

i guess, weirder things have happened though

i think you should listen when someone is telling you you're unpleasant to interact with tbh

-infinity

[Lady Lambdadelta]

My play hadn't been scummy.

You don't get to be the arbiter of this. I think you do have decent scum equity this game. Even if you turn out to be town, it's fine that I'm wrong, but the things I saw don't just go away either.

Like I don't think my play has been scummy either, but you seem to think it is. I'm not the arbiter of whether I'm giving scummy vibes, you know.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You have demonstrated a good awareness of whats gone on thus far this game - which suggests up until i started to shine a light youve tried going under the radar.
That's definitely not towny.

Why is me going under the radar after shooting a policy elimination bait not towny? I'm pushing the person I think is scum, they're the leading wagon, and I'm giving less info to the scum.

If people start to switch and tides start to turn, I can ramp my game play up, but I don't need to hyperpost to be effective or town.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like

Cases are scummy and not needed.

I don't need to effortpost to show I'm town because I spent my fucking one shot doing the only town move, and I'm pushing the person I want dead and that is progressing.

If you have questions, I can answer them, but I don't see how I NEED to like... prove myself or give more? I can just read along, collect opinions and see if anything changes my mind?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm also of the opinion that anything I said about Zyla as scum you would have come back and told me it was scummy, because the things you are saying about my reasons for scumreading them there aren't even reasonable.

There's one tone reason, one reads reason and one motivation/actions reason. And you're comparing them all together.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Anyway I've seriously overstayed here for the sake of explaining to you that my concerns about your behaviour and my concerns about your aligment are split from each other, because I don't feel comfortable leaving you with the sensation that I'm weaponizing somethign like that against you.

But I really don't wanna do this right now, so I'm gonna go rest.

[SirCakez]

thats always true about koba - koba is always scum when they're mad and say a lot of words and put pressure on people - literally 100% read rate guys

you do this regardless of alignment
stop with the boo hoo act
why me fry me

ok and?

you're acting like it's a weird stretch to think that you're accusing me of being scum pushing dwlee. and i was one of two slots pushing dwlee. i don't get how this can be considered a slip at all. same thing @dunn

i also feel like gamma's vote on dwlee was pretty clearly not trying to elim them right away but whatever

-infinity

honestly even if it's not a slip I don't like the reaction anyways

VOTE: roden
don't like 125

oh 999 is Koba? this feels like scum Koba

VOTE: scp 999

Both of these pushes suck imo

-Gamma

why?

[SirCakez]

VOTE: roden
don't like 125

oh 999 is Koba? this feels like scum Koba

VOTE: scp 999

Both of these pushes suck imo

-Gamma

I agree - and i will ellaborate that SC has shown no higher thought process in pursuing these pushes when as town they do - when i faced them as scum when they were on fire as town(and i got them mislimmed by saying they bussed xD) -> it was a cakez that could parse stuff. paragraph level stuff.

this is 1 sentence cakez.

2 words and a vote cakez.

this is not town cakez thought process being shown.

what game was that even?

God fucking dammit
I never would have thought the day would come where infinity felt like a burden but it’s here and I feel like shit for thinking that way but I’ve had a very minimal role in how things have played out so far so I feel like this doesn’t fall on me
We’re I playing alone in this situation I’d probably do something rash and spiteful but I’m trying to not let my friend down here. Instead, I’m going to fight this elim with every fiber of my being so that even if I don’t succeed maybe after the flip you idiots will WAKE THE FUCK UP and push ACTUAL SCUM!!!!!!!!

Dunn, I know what you’re playing at here, and you’re having a very uncharitable view of my meta. I don’t know what “small thing” you think I overreacted to but I assure you you’re taking a bad sample, which is fucking ironic given how delusional I made myself that game! As for why I thought SM reacting like marcistar was voteworthy, maybe because I wanted to probe further and try to get more out of SM + people familiar with Tarot UPick? And instead it got speedlimmed, which while I’m not happy about it I also am with Ceph that SM wasn’t exactly doing herself any favors by being so abrasive (which is why I find his SR on us remarkably stupid).
As for me saying you hadn’t justified your vote on us, I’d only skimmed the posts in the thread since I last posted when I said that. I actually saw your case when I saw Cakez’s quoting it when I responded to that post.

-Gamma

y'all chill out this is ridiculous

[SirCakez]

how can people complain that I am not approaching them in good faith
I entered in here with some dumbass drunk posting last night and people started FLIPPING their lids and just made no attempt to hold an actual conversation with me - instead it went straight to "cakez is scum"
I will talk to y'all but you can't just call me scum and write me off if you want that to happen

[SirCakez]

if I'm wrong about IZ/999 then I'd probably look at Zyla and Roden

[SirCakez]

I don't know if I've ever seen scum fake claim vigilante

I have, once. It was just to get a CC though.

Koba has yet to provide a reasonable explaination for their tinfoil on me and continues to push this narrative despite being told why it is unreasonable.

also @Koba I agree with this

if there's a Zyla wagon I'll join

[Cephrir]

Theres only 1 unaccounted for dclass and i am already a town protective - and for me to DISABLE my ability is 2 dclass so I'm having trouble believing this vig claim - especially since its 1 shot and so gated supposedly.

can you think of any reason why you have this ability? i can't

[Infinity Zero]

probably in case someone wants to investigate them?

-infinity

[Cephrir]

oh right. nvm.

[SCP 999]

Yeah idk why i have it, like i misread it and thought it was for scp 492 to keep them away bc 999 is considered the only viable counter to it - but i guess i was dumb lol.

[Zyla]

why is galron as high as dunn?

Towniness isn't based on actions for me, galron and dunn both didn't have bad vibes

I won't be around for the rest of the night, so here's a readslist

Cephrir - Scum

why aren't you voting for me then

Wasn't ready for a full push on you, and Cakez hadn't posted much yet

No longer suspicious of Cakez though
UNVOTE: SirCakez

like i think cakez and zyla are tied in terms of partner equity from how they are treating eachother - zyla basically ignoring cakez while cakez subtly defending zyla on top of their very jarring leaps between thoughts and for cakez, refusal to allow us to examine their thought process.

I don't follow, I'm not aware of anyone else directly acknowledging cakez, and cakez hadn't even reached 5 posts at the time you brought up how little they were posting and I concurred.

You [SirCakez] have demonstrated a good awareness of whats gone on thus far this game - which suggests up until i started to shine a light youve tried going under the radar.
That's definitely not towny.

Again not following this logic. Aren't there plenty of reasons a town player might not want to be in the spotlight, particularly early game?

[SCP 999]

LLD. - if you are town here i implore you to consolidate onto zyla because i hard tr infinity here - like the fact that out of all your reads and my reads differences and im hard pushing the one read we do share scumread wise, you should be able to at *least* consider good faith for getting zyla out - you have many reasons for scumreading her - and i have a similarly strong read there for other reasons - mainly that she is the least towny( my method of sorting now primarily focuses on how much i townread someone as thats my strong point - finding townies)

You should understand that my pov that you likely can be a scum doing a gambit to avoid being limmed and control the gamestate at the same time.

I also ask others leave infinityalone at least 1 day phase here - and reconsider on zyla's flip.
If zyla does flip town - I'll start reevalling - but until then i dont think i need to because i believe its a hit.