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[Enchant]

It's also looks bad because of potential combo.

?

salsa's behaviour is definitely weird, and i'm puzzled by the "pls don't kill me yet, i need to say something... ok i'm self voting gl town" and i'm hoping she comes back and actually contributes because at some point the only thing we can conclude is antispew, but we've been going down the poe and we have two green flips and i'm anxious.

It's actually makes sense to "Selfvote" after townie just hammered self to trick us. Town!Salsa should knew better, especially after she saw how it was bad move.

[Datisi]

what tide r u even talking about

ONE PERSON CASED YOU

one person who is a conftown and who people are much more likely to listen to

then you add to it and you're generally townread and that's already 2/4 needed

why do you think it's apparently impossible for town!me to see your comments there as helping kyouko in her push on me in a malicious way?

[Aristeia]

I literally said I didn't want to vote for you

[Aristeia]

I don't think you understand

What I said was the doubt in my heart

I don't have doubts when I am scum

easier to push with confidence than doubt.

[Datisi]

im honestly very scared that kyouko is right

i would like to sheep what enchant/kyouko think because I know I can't trust myself to be objective about Datisi

yeah, this really did give a vibe of "I don't want to vote for datisi".

[Aristeia]

I am not going to vote for you because I can't do that to you and some part of me still thinks you are town.

I am town

If you are mafia there are 4 other townies who can vote for you.

[Aristeia]

I guess I have hope you would only be this way to me if you were mafia because if you were town you would realize I am worried.

[Datisi]

I guess I have hope you would only be this way to me if you were mafia because if you were town you would realize I am worried.

there's a difference between "i am worried about datisi" and "i am worried about datisi, so i'm going to claim being unable to read him and say that i will just sheep the ic's on him right after one of the ic's said she thinks he's scum and voted him"

[Aristeia]

why do you assume the worst of me

[Datisi]

i would like to sheep what enchant/kyouko think because I know I can't trust myself to be objective about Datisi

because you quite literally said so? if there is another interpretation of this post, please enlighten me, because that is what i got from it

[ChaosOmega]

Still happy with my Salsa vote. Going back to Datisi's question on who makes sense for her partner, both Ari and Datisi fit, Ari because of Salsa's reasoning in 1654 where she's scrapping all her previous logic because of lack of confidence to pivot away from Ari, but still using the logic to make me her next target, and Datisi from his amount of defending Salsa's slot over datsi's slot given similar circumstances (I know this has been explained in 1643, but it doesn't mean this is the actual reason). Need to read back through previous days looking at Salsa's interactions with everyone.

[Salsabil Faria]

I'm contributing

Datisi

, I even proposed to vote myself out because clearly scum will take the benefit of the situation and it seems like they already started. I'm calling it: it's you and

CO

, the other two seems unlikely to be partnered with you.

Conftown

ssbm

's case shook you from inside, you're now desperately trying to scum prov

Ari

and not voting me (the easy target) so that everyone has dilemma inside and mean time, you can wifom your way out later.

Don't remember which player (they were in my early newbie game and an experienced player) but they said (not exactly like this) if you can't think of anything scummy about anyone, then they're likely to be scum.

@

Enchant

, if I think my presence in the game will harm town more, I self-hammered, you can ask

ssbm

now or

Dwlee

,

Roden

,

T3

post game. I don’t need to self-vote as scum yet, so don't have any answer for it.

UNVOTE: Salsabil Faria

VOTE: Datisi

[Datisi]

I'm contributing Datisi, I even proposed to vote myself out because clearly scum will take the benefit of the situation and it seems like they already started. I'm calling it: it's you and CO, the other two seems unlikely to be partnered with you.

what are you even saying? how is scum!me taking the benefit of the situation here? do you have any clue how easy it would've been for me to go "ye salsa is scummy that selfvote is bad lol let's vote her"? like genuinely this doesn't make any sense?

[Datisi]

Don't remember which player (they were in my early newbie game and an experienced player) but they said (not exactly like this) if you can't think of anything scummy about anyone, then they're likely to be scum.

???
you spent the past few posts explaining how something i told you earlier in the gane was attacking you and how my reaction to the case was scummy, and now you're saying this?

[Salsabil Faria]

Yes, I'm saying this. You, yourself said the

overreaction

doesn’t necessarily town indicative for you. Again, YOU ARE questioning why people find the

overreaction

scummy and without giving any satisfying answer you boomerang the question towards the people who find the reaction suspicious: classic creating dilemma scum move (if that's what it called which was used by most probably Mena or Skitter in one of my previous games).

Most probably you fOrGoT, but when

Ari

also reacted in a

bad

way in pressure, I called that out too.

[Salsabil Faria]

I'm contributing Datisi, I even proposed to vote myself out because clearly scum will take the benefit of the situation and it seems like they already started. I'm calling it: it's you and CO, the other two seems unlikely to be partnered with you.

what are you even saying? how is scum!me taking the benefit of the situation here? do you have any clue how easy it would've been for me to go "ye salsa is scummy that selfvote is bad lol let's vote her"? like genuinely this doesn't make any sense?

Did you take an oath anywhere that scum!you can't use wifom ever or make any mistake or something??

[Salsabil Faria]

Still happy with my Salsa vote. Going back to Datisi's question on who makes sense for her partner, both Ari and Datisi fit, Ari because of Salsa's reasoning in 1654 where she's scrapping all her previous logic because of lack of confidence to pivot away from Ari, but still using the logic to make me her next target, and Datisi from his amount of defending Salsa's slot over datsi's slot given similar circumstances (I know this has been explained in 1643, but it doesn't mean this is the actual reason). Need to read back through previous days looking at Salsa's interactions with everyone.

I'm not going to repeat same thing again again, so I'm giving you a universe to consider where I'm town. What is your solve now?

[Datisi]

???
yes, i'm questioning people who are claiming my reaction is scummy. i said it was *not townie*. it's not town!indicative. that doesn't mean it's scum!indicative. if you're claiming i'm scum for it, you obviously think it's scum!indicative, and i want actual reasoning for why something comes from scum but not for town rather than "hurr durr reaction bad"

i don't care about you calling out ari earlier, you're calling me out now, and i'm making you take a solid stance behind the things you're pushing

[Datisi]

I'm contributing Datisi, I even proposed to vote myself out because clearly scum will take the benefit of the situation and it seems like they already started. I'm calling it: it's you and CO, the other two seems unlikely to be partnered with you.

what are you even saying? how is scum!me taking the benefit of the situation here? do you have any clue how easy it would've been for me to go "ye salsa is scummy that selfvote is bad lol let's vote her"? like genuinely this doesn't make any sense?

Did you take an oath anywhere that scum!you can't use wifom ever or make any mistake or something??

you're claiming i'm taking advantage of the situation of you voting yourself and whatever. i'm asking how am i apparently taking advantage of that. you're dodging the question. like, genuinely asking, what do you think scum!me was trying to achieve there?

[Salsabil Faria]

Hypocrisy level 2.0

I'm calling you out because you made a huge fuss about it (like your bad reaction CAN'T BE CONSIDERED as scum indicative by others where YOU LITERALLY SAID IT DOESN’T NECESSARILY TOWN INDICATIVE) by not giving any answer but throw the question back to us which I find scum indicative because in my eyes I see you're using this tactic to dismiss the argument or cover the mistake (overreaction) or trying to create dilemma so that we (or only me) start to 2nd guess ourselves (myself).

[Salsabil Faria]

^that's for 1767

[Salsabil Faria]

I'm contributing Datisi, I even proposed to vote myself out because clearly scum will take the benefit of the situation and it seems like they already started. I'm calling it: it's you and CO, the other two seems unlikely to be partnered with you.

what are you even saying? how is scum!me taking the benefit of the situation here? do you have any clue how easy it would've been for me to go "ye salsa is scummy that selfvote is bad lol let's vote her"? like genuinely this doesn't make any sense?

Did you take an oath anywhere that scum!you can't use wifom ever or make any mistake or something??

you're claiming i'm taking advantage of the situation of you voting yourself and whatever. i'm asking how am i apparently taking advantage of that. you're dodging the question. like, genuinely asking, what do you think scum!me was trying to achieve there?

No, I'm not dodging anything. You're not voting but shading/pushing me which could be for 2 things:
1. Scum!you don't want to make your hand dirty.
2. To use wifom later by saying this: I didn’t vote her despite being an easy push, why scum!me would do that blah blah blah.

About what you achieve: if town has started to 2nd guess themselves then you can find your way out even if one of the conftowns caught you.

[Datisi]

(like your bad reaction CAN'T BE CONSIDERED as scum indicative by others where YOU LITERALLY SAID IT DOESN’T NECESSARILY TOWN INDICATIVE)

holy hell

i said it's not town indicative

but if you're claiming it's scum indicative, you need to give actual fucking arguments WHY it doesn't come from town and why it's scummy

not town indicative =/= scum indicative

what have i refused to answer. i said i wasn't ready to give out a solve as there are things i want to reread before i do that and answers i want to hear before i decide.

[Datisi]

or, OR, i'm not voting you because i'm town and i am unsure if just plowing through the poe is the right thing to do here since that's gotten us 2 green flips so far, but you're attacking me with some awful arguments that i have to defend against!

that explanation for what "scum me is doing" is incredibly weak and non specific? can you go into detail about what you thought there?

[Salsabil Faria]

O MY GOD!!

If something isn’t town indicative then it's

by default

scum indicative or vice versa??? I never heard about

null indicative

term before unless that's the case here?

If.I.remember.right, I actually gave ACTUAL FUCKING ARGUMENTS TWICE which for whatever reason you can't see?? Do you want me to consider you as conftown?

I'm literally not sure which one of this reaction is worse atm:

Ari

's calling out for vig while getting pressure or you being TOTAL CRAZY after seeing one conftown's case!!!