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Post Post #1025 (ISO) » Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:31 pm

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In post 1020, skitter30 wrote:well, if they're scum together dwlee is lampshading the fact that his partner had to think up a fakeclaim and forgot that he had one readily available, seems weird to me
Why assume that IV forgot about the fakeclaim instead of deliberately stalled?
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Post Post #1026 (ISO) » Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:32 pm

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If your fakeclaim is doctor... it's not a gimme, necessarily. He may have wanted to verify it with Dwlee, or even just see if his wagon would go away without needing to claim.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #1027 (ISO) » Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:36 pm

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In post 1026, Something_Smart wrote:If your fakeclaim is doctor... it's not a gimme, necessarily. He may have wanted to verify it with Dwlee, or even just see if his wagon would go away without needing to claim.
If it's possible can y'all use fewer pronouns? I can't fully follow this argument.
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Post Post #1028 (ISO) » Sat Dec 11, 2021 7:15 pm

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In post 1024, DArby wrote:
In post 1023, skitter30 wrote:i mean that could be true, sure, but you could also be scum making up a claim that isn't verifiable, how am i to tell the difference?
wants to flip me when I'm saying I'm a null read at best. I'm a bad choice to flip today.
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- why are you a bad choice to flip today?
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Post Post #1029 (ISO) » Sat Dec 11, 2021 7:31 pm

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In post 1026, Something_Smart wrote:If your fakeclaim is doctor... it's not a gimme, necessarily. IV may have wanted to verify the doctor claim with Dwlee, or even just see if IV's wagon would go away without needing to claim.
That make more sense?
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Post Post #1030 (ISO) » Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:11 pm

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vote count 3.02

with 5 votes in play, it takes 3 to make a decision. day 3 ends in (expired on 2021-12-18 16:45:00).


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Dwlee99 [1]:
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Post Post #1031 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:21 am

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In post 1012, skitter30 wrote:
In post 992, innocentvillager wrote:skitter if town at the time is the best player and who I would’ve killed if I were scum
why do u think i'm so good again?
well you were basically completely right on your main reads in DEFCON and 2200 that i modded and everyone else talks about your towngame. ive mentioned this a few times in my iso and looking back baseline it's a bit unlikely but plausible that scum could've gambled and guessed who i was protecting n1
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Post Post #1032 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:25 am

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In post 1025, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1020, skitter30 wrote:well, if they're scum together dwlee is lampshading the fact that his partner had to think up a fakeclaim and forgot that he had one readily available, seems weird to me
Why assume that IV forgot about the fakeclaim instead of deliberately stalled?
if im scum in that spot i doubt i would've deliberately stalled with a post like that - it would be much easier to just not post
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Post Post #1033 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:28 am

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In post 1026, Something_Smart wrote:or even just see if his wagon would go away without needing to claim.
well yes this was my plan as i mentioned, i was hoping to effort a bit and provide some towny analysis for people to reevaluate before forcing out my doctor claim, that's why i promised content soon or i would claim
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Post Post #1034 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:33 am

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In post 1028, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1024, DArby wrote:
In post 1023, skitter30 wrote:i mean that could be true, sure, but you could also be scum making up a claim that isn't verifiable, how am i to tell the difference?
wants to flip me when I'm saying I'm a null read at best. I'm a bad choice to flip today.
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- why are you a bad choice to flip today?
Oops . I’d love to say I was a bit out of it last night but I think that’s my current state of being now. :S

I’m a bad flip today because of the nature that Im a null read that only looks sus based off 2/3 poe. We’re at ELo. I don’t think you should be basing a potential lim off of that with no scum flips.
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Post Post #1035 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:38 am

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Darby what's the solve from your pov?
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Post Post #1036 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:42 am

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In post 1029, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1026, Something_Smart wrote:If your fakeclaim is doctor... it's not a gimme, necessarily. IV may have wanted to verify the doctor claim with Dwlee, or even just see if IV's wagon would go away without needing to claim.
That make more sense?
I don’t think I’m following the logic but I understand who you’re talking about now.

I had to look up the rule set again, but from what I understand, it should be given that scum doesn’t need to verify the role they know doesn’t exist and can safely use it. I don’t think I get the need to verify.
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Post Post #1037 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:42 am

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In post 1035, skitter30 wrote:Darby what's the solve from your pov?
Dwlee/SS
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Post Post #1038 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:53 am

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Why not iv/dwlee?
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Post Post #1039 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:15 am

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Will answer question soon but I need to write this down first so I can reference it later.

(In no particular order)
IV claims doc (action same post)
SS claims tracker (action same post)
Skitter claims vig (action same post)
DArby claims Neapolitan (action same post)
Dwlee claims tracker (action , )

I think I might change my answer. Gimme a sec.
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Post Post #1040 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:05 am

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Verify as in, hey buddy is it a good idea to claim this
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Post Post #1041 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:07 am

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Apparently everyone just thinking Dwlee is psychic up in here.

I guess that makes me feel better because if everyone agrees on something in lylo it's sure to be wrong.
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Post Post #1042 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:25 am

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I mean i dont think they're psychic so much as just telling the truth

I think its u/darby

There's a couple of things that i want to check but otherwise i just think i'm just gonna vote
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Post Post #1043 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:11 am

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Well both IV and DArby are apparently heavily considering the scenario where Dwlee is scum and IV is town despite that requiring a risky guess with little upside.
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Post Post #1044 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:13 am

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But I mean if you don't feel like actually listening to my arguments nor those of the three dead townies (including the one killed by scum) who townread me, then go ahead and vote I guess.
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Post Post #1045 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:15 am

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You know Dwlee was my only townread coming into the day, right? Why do I 1v1 them rather than DArby, or IV, or just nobody? (Or even you tbh)

You know how much faith I have in my scumgame, why would I expect to win ANY 1v1, let alone after choosing to leave you alive?
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Post Post #1046 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:21 am

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Darby apparently hasnt tried to sort out the solve from his pov until i asked and has spent more time trying to defend himself than anything else

And iv i dont know if he actually thought through the setup either

What arguments do u think i'm overlooking

Pedit ok this is fair and i dont know why you do that, but scum obviously planned to get in a 4way mess and idk why any of you do that

(Aside not surehy anybody cc'd me. Altho probably easier for scum-you to cc dwlee vs cc me)
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Post Post #1047 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:24 am

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In post 1031, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 1012, skitter30 wrote:
In post 992, innocentvillager wrote:skitter if town at the time is the best player and who I would’ve killed if I were scum
why do u think i'm so good again?
well you were basically completely right on your main reads in DEFCON and 2200 that i modded and everyone else talks about your towngame. ive mentioned this a few times in my iso and looking back baseline it's a bit unlikely but plausible that scum could've gambled and guessed who i was protecting n1
Ss from your pov why hasnt scum-iv killed me like six years ago
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Post Post #1048 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:36 am

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Because you and I were fighting? Even if you didn't vote me it looked like I might vote you

There's an argument to be made that I kept you alive by voting you yesterday tbh

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Post Post #1049 (ISO) » Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:37 am

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i think u wanted me to be the elo misflip
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