Holiday Dance Party ---- Game Over

[Shiro]

You know what I think there is at least 1 scum in my wagon.

[Save The Dragons]

do you have a thought of who it is

if it's ydrasse say something in code like "The Goose" so that you're not talking about Ydrasse and i'll catch your meaning

[GuiltyLion]

VOTE: Andante

marci railed on Andante throughout and some of the angles I could definitely imagine as distancing ("anyone townreading Andante has bad reads", "andante is so scummy and nobody is listening", etc)

the thing that worries me is that if marci was going so hard on Andante to bus, that makes me feel like at least one of the other two scum should be in good standing? I still want to flip the HQ/Shiro pair but if that has scum in it and Andante is scum then what would be the plan for how that Marci/Andante scumteam actually wins the game

Fire, did Andante say anything about marci in the PT

[Titus]

Andante - 22 I think this is a bit scummy, cuz at this stage scum would prob be more focused on getting a pair than anything else.
post 33 this seems like a weird post.
414 this seems a bit overly aware of herself tbh.
but otherwise after she came back after her cry, i liked most of the posts. shes still a scumread, but its getting weaker.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I don't think associatives are reliable most of the time

[Shiro]

do you have a thought of who it is

if it's ydrasse say something in code like "The Goose" so that you're not talking about Ydrasse and i'll catch your meaning

[GuiltyLion]

I don't think associatives are reliable most of the time

also, what are your latest feelings about RH9

[GuiltyLion]

I guess I didn't need to quote that post it's not related

[Titus]

Galron, would you dance with me?

[GuiltyLion]

Especially one that paired up over Mala that died and flipped town.
I think it's very unlikely all last 3 slots to not pair up are town.

Why? Norwee, I'm writing up my readslist and I see this post. I had as a townlean but this post seems like you're trying to say that it is unlikely that Galron and S_S are both Town, because we know and you acknowledged that Mala's Town. And FYI, Galron never

intended

to get left out. See 2677 for Galron's own post regarding his attempts to get paired. I am disliking the narrative, you are painting.
VOTE: NorwegianboyEE
(Sorry marcistar. I don't SR you but I do scumlean your partner for his narratives regarding Galron.)

Rereading Prism and Norwee's ISOs, I'm moving his slot to a nullread because there are points where I have agreed with Norwee like in 2717. I dislike Andante's treatment of Harley Quinn. It doesn't feel right. However, I highly TR Firebringer. Thus, I will be unvoting Norwee. (This is partially because I highly TR marcistar.)
UNVOTE: NorweigianboyEE

Everybody, rank each pair (except mine - calling IC privilege) on how likely you believe scum resides in them.

T/T

• Datisi & GL / RH9 & Alyssa / Shiro & Harley Quinn
  
• STD & Titus / Galron & S_S
  
• Marcistar & Norwee / Firebringer & Andante

T/S

RH9, can you walk me through your progression here

first, you voted Norway and said you don't SR marci. but clearly you didn't TR her enough to not vote here

then, you unvoted Norway and said the reason was partly because you "highly" TR marcistar. What changed between 2779 and 2937 that made marcistar such a TR that you didn't want to vote there anymore?

then, you still had them as a bottom pair in your rankings. So why did you unvote then?

[Titus]

I'm currently in favor of a townblock pairings of Shiro/Harley + Galron/SS + me/StD.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I don't think associatives are reliable most of the time

also, what are your latest feelings about RH9

I think he's town

[Datisi]

Shiro/Harley

by what logic do both of these slots not only look *good* after marci scumflip, they're also townblock material?

[Alyssa The Lamb]

UNVOTE: Andante

I want to wait, I think we can force a high info intermission

[Datisi]

I don't think associatives are reliable most of the time

also, what are your latest feelings about RH9

I think he's town

what's the pt look like?

[Alyssa The Lamb]

It's four full pages long and he's posted more than I have

I don't think that's really a scum trait

[GuiltyLion]

is there anything he's posted in there that he hasn't expressed similarly in the main thread? do you feel he's trying to sort you at all, any disparities between his reads there and his reads here?

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I'll have to look again to be sure on that one

[Titus]

Shiro/Harley

by what logic do both of these slots not only look *good* after marci scumflip, they're also townblock material?

Nothing has changed my read there.

[Titus]

Should it?

[Datisi]

shiro had that awkward mention about scumreading marci after completely ignoring her while her wagon was building up
marci/lily had that awkward interaction early day one which i talked about a few times by now
marci kept saying how catboi was scum because "bad reads"??

like marci's flip just makes me wanna kill that pairing more now >_>

[GuiltyLion]

can we talk VCA for a sec Titus

I just went over this with Datisi in our PT but from where I'm sitting, knowing that I am town, Taly/N_M town, marci scum, Datisi and Fire strong townreads, it leaves STD/Alyssa on wagon and all of HQ/Shiro/RH9/Galron/S_S/Andante off. What's notable too is we have a both on pair (Datisi/GL), three one on / one off (Fire/Andante, STD/Titus, Alyssa/RH9) pairs, and two both off pairs (S_S/Galron, Shiro/HQ).

Do you think scum are more or less likely to be on wagon for that lim? I think it's decent odds that at least one scum was on the wagon, but I also think if you assume scum is more likely than not to be off the wagon then it could make sense to eliminate a both off pair here.

I think the calculus is probably a bit different for you since you don't have the information I have regarding my own alignment, but I do think this is could be a useful way of analyzing pairs and the wagon. If Shiro/HQ are both town then bussing is guaranteed to have happened, and from my end I don't think it was Datisi (and I know it wasn't me)

[Titus]

shiro had that awkward mention about scumreading marci after completely ignoring her while her wagon was building up
marci/lily had that awkward interaction early day one which i talked about a few times by now
marci kept saying how catboi was scum because "bad reads"??

like marci's flip just makes me wanna kill that pairing more now >_>

Disagree with how that bus works in a setup.

Wouldn't mind a reference number to the interaction you're seeing re marci/lily.

Pretty sure scum just wigged out at Galron's move.

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VCA time

[Titus]

I just went over this with Datisi in our PT but from where I'm sitting, knowing that I am town, Taly/N_M town, marci scum

This is where your VCA assumptions should stop. Ignore townreads in the equation.

[Firebringer]

Fire, did Andante say anything about marci in the PT

we aren't talking game in our pt. Its story pt.